Here goes nothing.
Alabama hires Nick Saban -- 5
--Won the lottery. Great HC, great program-runner.
Arkansas hires Bobby Petrino -- 5
--Great success at prior FBS schools, got a steal by hiring him.
Florida hires Urban Meyer -- 4
--No big school HC experience but highly regarded head coach who won BCS game.
Ole Miss hires Houston Nutt -- 4
--Good hire, prior HC experience, put Arkansas on the map essentially in the modern era.
Georgia Tech hires Paul Johnson -- 4
--Prior FBS experience, basically rebuilt Navy football. Great hire.
Miami hires Al Golden -- 4
--Success at FBS school. Massive turnaround of that program. Highly regarded, seen as successor to JoePa.
Michigan State hires Mark Dantonio -- 4
--Success at FBS school, prior HC experience, ran good programs.
Miami hires Randy Shannon -- 3
--Coordinator, no prior HC experience, but from same school. Not a major improvement over prior coach.
Stanford hires Jim Harbaugh -- 3
--Prior FCS experience as HC. Smashmouth attitude.
Colorado hires Dan Hawkins -- 3
--Success at FBS school. Seemed like a good hire at the time.
ND hires Brian Kelly -- 3
--Prior HC experience, good track record, not long enough stays at prior schools to indicate a significant pattern of success however.
USC hires Pete Carroll -- 3
--Former failed NFL coach, had HC experience, no college HC experience but former coordinator so he knew the business.
Oregon hires Chip Kelly -- 3
--Former FCS HC, was coordinator for Oregon before taking over, likely learned much about being HC as a coordinator.
Florida State hires Jimbo Fisher -- 3
--Highly regarded coordinator, was coordinator for 3 seasons before taking over at same school. Very similar situation to Chip Kelly in my opinion.
Michigan hires Rich Rodriguez -- 3
--Great success at BCS school, however his offense was a mirror image of what players he required from team he inherited. He likely would be a great coach if they kept him for 10 years, in my opinion, but that's not going to happen.
Nebraska hires Bo Pelini -- 3
--Only a coordinator but highly regarded. Was coordinator at NU before taking over, so it's likely he learned similar to Chip Kelly and Jimbo Fisher.
ND hires Charlie Weis -- 2
--No HC experience anywhere. No college experience anywhere. Very smart but no prior track record to indicate future success.
Florida hires Will Muschamp -- 2
--No big school HC experience. No HC experience at all.
Washington hires Steve Sarkisian -- 2
--Highly regarded coordinator, no HC experience, but program needed something better.
Ohio State hires Jim Tressel -- 2
--Former FCS HC, had success there, though not an indicator of FBS success.
USC hires Lane Kiffin -- 1
--HC for one season, iffy track record. Major risk, considering state of program.
Tennessee hires Lane Kiffin -- 1
--See above. Never prior HC.
Auburn hires Gene Chizik -- 1
--Former HC, horrible record at BCS conference school. Major risk.
Washington hires Ty Willingham -- 0
--Pure idiocy. No consistency as a coach. Poor track record. Former HC at major programs in FBS but failed at all of them with sporadic success. Left destruction wherever he went. Poor work ethic. Horrible leader. Poor recruiter. Writing was on the wall and UW ignored it--put their program in the pooper for years.
Complete thread:
- on a scale of risk, grade these hires (at the time) -
Jay,
2010-12-12, 18:08
- interesting exercise. composite ranking: -
Jay,
2010-12-13, 09:36
- nit - disagree on Sarkisian - JD in Portland, 2010-12-13, 19:56
- awards -
Jay,
2010-12-13, 09:39
- Pete Carroll, winner of the Carr-Fulmer award.
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Bryan (IrishCavan),
2010-12-13, 10:37
- Pete Carroll, winner of the Carr-Fulmer award.
- Interesting that Alabama's hiring of Saban... - KGB, 2010-12-13, 09:10
- My attempt -
Domer99,
2010-12-13, 06:52
- I guess I don't see how Meyer rates higher than Kelly. -
KGB,
2010-12-13, 08:01
- A couple of thoughts -
Domer99,
2010-12-13, 09:10
- I think the perception of Kelly was similar a year ago. -
KGB,
2010-12-13, 09:17
- I don't disagree. - Domer99, 2010-12-13, 09:50
- Along these lines... -
MattyCinNYC,
2010-12-13, 09:39
- I desperately hope that Lane Kiffin turns into a poor man's - Domer99, 2010-12-13, 09:53
- I think the perception of Kelly a year ago... -
Greg,
2010-12-13, 09:25
- I think there's a lot right in this thread - Mike (bart), 2010-12-13, 09:44
- I think the perception of Kelly was similar a year ago. -
KGB,
2010-12-13, 09:17
- A couple of thoughts -
Domer99,
2010-12-13, 09:10
- good read
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Jay,
2010-12-13, 07:59
- I guess I don't see how Meyer rates higher than Kelly. -
KGB,
2010-12-13, 08:01
- taking a snab at it - Pat, 2010-12-13, 05:47
- A bit odd that -
Pete,
2010-12-13, 03:37
- Guess we're on the same wavelength.
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KGB,
2010-12-13, 09:30
- Guess we're on the same wavelength.
- Here goes nothing. - Pat (Moco), 2010-12-12, 21:45
- okay here goes - JD in Portland, 2010-12-12, 21:08
- The USC hire of Petey . . . - Glass, 2010-12-12, 20:21
- Mine - PMan, 2010-12-12, 20:19
- Hard to do this without hindsight -
JRT,
2010-12-12, 19:41
- I'm curious as to the high marks given to MSU for Dantonio? -
hobbs,
2010-12-12, 20:00
- I'm not sure how to explain his first two seasons - BPH, 2010-12-12, 20:12
- Above average, or low risk? -
JRT,
2010-12-12, 20:08
- You're right - hobbs, 2010-12-12, 20:27
- I'm curious as to the high marks given to MSU for Dantonio? -
hobbs,
2010-12-12, 20:00
- mine - HumanRobot, 2010-12-12, 19:34
- Mine - DCT, 2010-12-12, 18:53
- It's tough to eliminate hindsight. - Slainte Joe, 2010-12-12, 18:44
- Mine -
Jeff (BGS),
2010-12-12, 18:29
- You think Meyer in 2004 was a better hire by UF -
hobbs,
2010-12-12, 18:37
- I really wasn't as sold on Saban -
Jeff (BGS),
2010-12-12, 19:13
- You aren't alone - Domer99, 2010-12-13, 06:57
- If you include the risk of bolting, his risk quadruples.
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JRT,
2010-12-12, 19:43
- Yes, but I think it was much less risky in that he -
tex29,
2010-12-12, 19:46
- Not sure I agree -
Domer99,
2010-12-13, 07:02
- You could be right, but I think Carroll is different. -
tex29,
2010-12-13, 07:51
- Possibly - Domer99, 2010-12-13, 08:53
- You could be right, but I think Carroll is different. -
tex29,
2010-12-13, 07:51
- Not sure I agree -
Domer99,
2010-12-13, 07:02
- Yes, but I think it was much less risky in that he -
tex29,
2010-12-12, 19:46
- Fair enough.
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hobbs,
2010-12-12, 19:27
- I really wasn't as sold on Saban -
Jeff (BGS),
2010-12-12, 19:13
- You think Meyer in 2004 was a better hire by UF -
hobbs,
2010-12-12, 18:37
- My scale goes to 11 (edited) - BPH, 2010-12-12, 18:27
- Mine - hobbs, 2010-12-12, 18:26
- I had too many threes to make my answers useful. -
Kevin,
2010-12-12, 18:22
- Curious why you think that about Rodriguez -
BPH,
2010-12-12, 18:42
- It's a close call, but Rodriguez had a longer tenure at WVU -
Kevin,
2010-12-12, 18:47
- I thought RR was a desperation hire, moreso that Meyer/Weis -
Jeff (BGS),
2010-12-12, 19:18
- Agree. - KGB, 2010-12-13, 08:22
- It may have been - Domer99, 2010-12-13, 07:15
- I don't think Miles shunned them. -
Kevin,
2010-12-13, 05:24
- Lloyd was smarter than he looked
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JN,
2010-12-13, 07:43
- Sexist. - JRT, 2010-12-13, 07:52
- Lloyd was smarter than he looked
- Is that wisdom or risk? -
tex29,
2010-12-12, 19:39
- I didn't rank mine on risk - Jeff (BGS), 2010-12-12, 20:58
- I thought RR was a desperation hire, moreso that Meyer/Weis -
Jeff (BGS),
2010-12-12, 19:18
- It's a close call, but Rodriguez had a longer tenure at WVU -
Kevin,
2010-12-12, 18:47
- Curious why you think that about Rodriguez -
BPH,
2010-12-12, 18:42
- risky business - Jay, 2010-12-12, 18:21
- ok... -
irishoutsider,
2010-12-12, 18:21
- you made me go back and bump up Urban -
Jay,
2010-12-12, 18:24
- Now that I'm back to stable internets.... - irishoutsider, 2010-12-13, 07:47
- Yeah, but as Einstein would say, it's all relative. - tex29, 2010-12-12, 18:27
- you made me go back and bump up Urban -
Jay,
2010-12-12, 18:24
- Mine (edited) - tex29, 2010-12-12, 18:15
- interesting exercise. composite ranking: -
Jay,
2010-12-13, 09:36