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links & such - Jay, 2010-10-14, 17:19

Hey Jay, Mad Max: Fury Road trailer - hobbs, 2014-07-27, 14:49
- Miller interview - Jay, 2014-07-27, 21:24
- looks pretty intense * - Jay, 2014-07-27, 21:04
  - from the director of the Mad Max triology - Pat, 2014-07-27, 22:10

A review of the movie "Lucy" - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-27, 08:17
- What happened to Luc Besson? * - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-27, 19:32
  - was just thinking the same thing - Jay, 2014-07-27, 21:04
  - Whatever it is, it happened awhile ago. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2014-07-27, 20:35
- I think we only use 10% of our hearts - Greg, 2014-07-27, 10:32
  - But what about the liver? * - nedhead, 2014-07-27, 18:39
- Better or worse than Ultraviolet? * - Spesh, 2014-07-27, 09:46
- Atrocious - Rob, 2014-07-27, 09:35

As a counter to LA's humiliation by Chelsea - Brendan, 2014-07-26, 18:23
- As a fan of D.C. United... - Slainte Joe, 2014-07-27, 10:57
- Manchester United. - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-26, 20:06
  - Whoops. Thanks. * - Brendan, 2014-07-27, 10:55

Cardinals sign AJ Pierzynski - MattG, 2014-07-26, 07:31
- Peavy to the Giants - Greg, 2014-07-26, 10:00
  - Gomes, Drew, Miller, and possibly Lester and Uehara. - Bingo, 2014-07-26, 10:22
    - Good point on Lester - Greg, 2014-07-26, 10:25
      - It will be interesting to monitor the SP market - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2014-07-26, 10:56
      - I think he's the only one with value - Bingo, 2014-07-26, 10:47

Saw the film Boyhood tonight; extraordinary - JD in Portland, 2014-07-25, 21:56
- Not to hijack, but I saw "A Most Wanted Man". - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2014-07-26, 10:38
- Just got in from seeing it. Agreed! * - Bill, 2014-07-25, 23:52

This is the last week of the year without football. - Pat, 2014-07-25, 21:44
- Is Lindy's publishing a 2014 preview for ND? * - San Pedro, 2014-07-26, 07:22
  - It doesn't look like it - Pat, 2014-07-26, 10:28
    - Yea, unfortunately one isn't in the works this year. * - Pete, 2014-07-26, 14:19
    - I couldn't find anything on the website either. * - San Pedro, 2014-07-26, 10:54

Any other media watchers following the Benny Johnson saga? - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-25, 17:10
- I love it when life imitates The Onion - Samari, 2014-07-25, 23:14
  - I can't figure out which is more hilarious-- plagiarism - hlewis, 2014-07-26, 08:49

I know a few here are excited like I am to see Guardians of - GuinnessBob, 2014-07-25, 15:31
- Remember John Carter? - domer.mq, 2014-07-26, 21:40
- 100% on Rotten Tomatoes through 25 reviews * - CW (Rakes), 2014-07-25, 19:15
- Have some buddies who've seen advance previews - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 15:48
  - Yeah, sounds about right on marketing. It's been ubiquitoso. - GuinnessBob, 2014-07-25, 16:27

OT: Manziel . . . - Glass, 2014-07-25, 11:57
- Ruh roh - Jack, 2014-07-25, 17:07
- Uhh... - Brendan, 2014-07-25, 14:07
  - And the scorpion replied to the bewildered frog... - RocketShark, 2014-07-26, 00:28

sigh...Byron Scott...really, Jim Buss? - Spesh, 2014-07-25, 11:25

David Shaw on players "starving" - Jay, 2014-07-25, 09:29
- It's not difficult to be on the right side of this issue. - KGB, 2014-07-26, 06:15
- I'm not a fan of Shaw's at all, but I think he articulated - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 14:39
- Great points. Especially re: responsibility. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2014-07-25, 14:20
- and why do ND fans dislike this guy so much? - JD in Portland, 2014-07-25, 12:03
  - mostly from ND game stuff - Jay, 2014-07-25, 12:19
    - I'm not sure I agree Stanford has more built-in.... - PMan, 2014-07-25, 14:01
      - But the front end admissions is the much larger hurdle - Jack, 2014-07-25, 17:02
        Actually, you can not fail a class at Stanford. - PMan, 2014-07-25, 17:42
      - Well, except we can only offer Catholic players - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 14:35
  - His whiny comments after the 2012 game - PootND, 2014-07-25, 12:14
    - interesting that D'Antonio whined as much or more - JD in Portland, 2014-07-25, 13:03
      - I don't like either that much - PootND, 2014-07-25, 14:28
      - Most people seem to like D'Antonio a great deal. - Chris, 2014-07-25, 13:19
    - Agree with both of those - Greg, 2014-07-25, 12:20
      - My thoughts exactly - Jeff (BGS), 2014-07-25, 18:04
    - All that plus the nonsense TED Talk * - CW (Rakes), 2014-07-25, 12:18
- That only works if the NCAA insists that kids go to class - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-25, 10:29
  - "Let's hold the universities accountable." - nedhead, 2014-07-25, 20:13
- My only quibble with his thoughts is "amateurism". - PAK, 2014-07-25, 10:22
  - Is there an impediment to setting up a central fund? - CK08, 2014-07-25, 10:33
- I agree with every word he said * - CK08, 2014-07-25, 09:56
- Bravo - Greg, 2014-07-25, 09:44

Finally... - Chris, 2014-07-25, 09:28
- With Texas series ending, maybe Ole Miss can play Houston! * - Savage, 2014-07-25, 09:34
- I am looking forward to seeing... - Greg, 2014-07-25, 09:31

Sampson hinted that Hiestand likes Q. Nelson enough - Jay, 2014-07-25, 09:16
- If that happens - BPH, 2014-07-25, 10:55
- crazy that Hegerty and Hanratty would be backups - Spesh, 2014-07-25, 09:51
  - maybe Nick Martin isn't 100% - Jay, 2014-07-25, 11:23
    - I can tell you that they expect Nick Martin to play C - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 11:43
  - Yeah. I'm usually skeptical of "Freshman X looks - BillyGoat, 2014-07-25, 09:54
    - isnt Lombard safe at RG? - Spesh, 2014-07-25, 10:03
      - I think Lombard is the most likely starter at RG, but - BillyGoat, 2014-07-25, 10:22
- I like that primarily because I want Elmer to play T. * - Savage, 2014-07-25, 09:31
  - Agree, and I think the Glinch... - BPH, 2014-07-25, 10:17
    - perfect as the third TE in a jumbo package - Spesh, 2014-07-25, 10:19
- He's a good looking kid. - Chris, 2014-07-25, 09:25

And now, your daily dose of Keith Olbermann - hobbs, 2014-07-25, 09:04
- Michelle Beadle has some thoughts - CW (Rakes), 2014-07-25, 09:55
  - Stephen A. is having a pretty great twitter meltdown now - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-25, 11:35
  - And poor Sam Ponder - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-25, 10:31
    - Wow. * - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 10:50
- And The Onion weighed in as well. - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-25, 09:17

so OSU fired its band director - HumanRobot, 2014-07-25, 08:36
- Their band is only 21% women? - CK08, 2014-07-25, 09:23
  - They have no woodwinds in their marching band, - BillyGoat, 2014-07-25, 09:36
    - part of that is history as well - HumanRobot, 2014-07-25, 10:09
- just read it. pretty embarrassing - Jay, 2014-07-25, 08:56
  - Guy really overlooked a lot of stuff - OrangeBlueGray, 2014-07-26, 12:27
  - There's some even worse stuff that went on there - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2014-07-25, 09:07

Malik Henry (QB, '16) will visit for the Michigan game - Jay, 2014-07-25, 08:32
- And Juwon Pass tripped to Auburn and Alabama - Bill, 2014-07-25, 09:09
- He's from California, right? - Greg, 2014-07-25, 08:52
  - Westlake * - Jay, 2014-07-25, 08:57
    - Weird for a CA guy to have a seeming top-3 of OSU, FSU, ND. * - Savage, 2014-07-25, 09:25
      - and he's got the USC, UCLA offers - Jay, 2014-07-25, 09:31
        I think the way 2015 QB recruiting is playing out... - BPH, 2014-07-25, 10:13
    - Thanks * - Greg, 2014-07-25, 09:01

Fiutak's ND preview - Jay, 2014-07-25, 07:12
- Ok, I haven't read it yet. - KGB, 2014-07-25, 09:39
  - of course you're right - Jay, 2014-07-25, 12:04
- Phrases like this one confuse me: - PMan, 2014-07-25, 08:37
- That was toe-deep from an analysis POV - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 07:41
  - it's Fiutak. I hesitated to even link it - Jay, 2014-07-25, 08:05
    - Good point, and fwiw, that wasn't meant as a... - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-25, 08:14
      - on that note, Football Outsiders almanac is out today - LaFortune Teller, 2014-07-25, 08:29
        is it available in PDF? * - Jay, 2014-07-25, 08:38
        It is only available as a PDF. - LaFortune Teller, 2014-07-25, 11:30
        
        Can someone remind me what happened to the new - BillyGoat, 2014-07-25, 08:33
- Jalen. * - PAK, 2014-07-25, 07:36
- He's very optimistic on the field - CK08, 2014-07-25, 07:32

Huge film news! - scriptcomesfirst, 2014-07-24, 20:13

Try out some good New Zealand indie ... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 16:05

And now for something completely different - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-24, 10:36
- Of all the times to show off his bling and he doesn't. Doh! * - GuinnessBob, 2014-07-24, 14:29
- Is that Schlabach in background? - Grantland, 2014-07-24, 11:51
  - 'Tis * - Tim, 2014-07-24, 12:50
- #TrueDetectiveSeason2 * - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2014-07-24, 10:37

Ok well I need to buy some Under Armour. - Chris, 2014-07-24, 09:11
- I applaud your good personal hygiene - Jack, 2014-07-24, 14:44
- Attn: somebody with Photoshop skills - Mike (Max), 2014-07-24, 11:16
  - Nailed It (pic) - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2014-07-24, 11:54
    - Or - Jeff (BGS), 2014-07-24, 12:10
      - That pic is one step away from being... - Jim (OFD), 2014-07-24, 12:57
        It's one hole away * - Mike (Max), 2014-07-24, 14:22
      - The talent on this board is dizzying. * - Jason93, 2014-07-24, 12:29
        Wait till I get going! * - Brendan, 2014-07-24, 12:44
- A body full of UA ND gear costs more than that gold case. - Savage, 2014-07-24, 09:55

A soccer note - Greg, 2014-07-24, 08:16
- Not to put too fine a point on it - IrishGuard, 2014-07-25, 07:05
  - Is baseball? - Greg, 2014-07-25, 07:48
    - Baseball is in a world of hurt * - crazychester, 2014-07-25, 08:18
      - Somewhat related... - Jim (OFD), 2014-07-25, 08:27
- Well, for all the dudes in this thread .... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 13:51
  - Great post imo. - Mark, 2014-07-24, 15:16
    - Very true -- we required that they each ... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 15:51
      - From experience there is only one problem with that. - River, 2014-07-24, 16:13
  - Thanks. Two questions and an explanation - Greg, 2014-07-24, 14:03
    - a few thoughts - Mark, 2014-07-24, 15:07
      - Thanks! A couple thoughts. - Greg, 2014-07-24, 15:20
        On No. 2, if you want to be heartened, check out Cromwell - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 15:59
        
        I wonder how much of that - Mark, 2014-07-24, 15:27
    - A few thoughts - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 14:42
      - I like your ideas - Greg, 2014-07-24, 14:51
- To be fair, MLS teams often do well in these friendlies - HCE, 2014-07-24, 09:02
  - Bear in mind that the European teams... - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 09:07
    - Indeed,which is why these friendlies should be taken - HCE, 2014-07-24, 11:34
- What happened yesterday better open some eyes in the MLS. - River, 2014-07-24, 08:43
  - Not only would I not keep score... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 09:17
  - After watching Chicago play last night... - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 08:59
  - CASL does that here in Raleigh. - Chris, 2014-07-24, 08:50
    - Good. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:23
  - Don't keep score until middle school? - CK08, 2014-07-24, 08:46
    - My son's U9 coach has an approach I like. - Kevin, 2014-07-24, 10:43
    - Essentially, yes. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:19
    - The tactics that win games in U9 don't develop players. * - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 08:52
      - Maybe other rule changes then? - CK08, 2014-07-24, 09:16
        IMO the best way to go is to keep score and make - BillyGoat, 2014-07-24, 09:24
        "The world" does not keep score - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 10:48
        There are two different things - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:51
        that's not the world keeping score - Spesh, 2014-07-24, 11:01
        I've lost a hell of a lot more than I've won - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:05
        I like the idea of not officially keeping score. - Kevin, 2014-07-24, 12:33
        I also like the idea of no trophies - Greg, 2014-07-24, 12:50
        
        No, that is people keeping score - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:01
        On a broad scale - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:04
        That's also not score keeping - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:12
        I guess I'm not talking about being a good winner - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:19
        Here's hoping you win! * - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:38
        
        Interesting - Greg, 2014-07-24, 09:20
        In order to be employed, someone is judging us - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 09:26
        Here's my thought - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:14
        I just think we need to change what it means to score - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:35
        
        This seems truthy - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:33
        I can only speak for myself - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:39
        How can you say this? - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:42
        I whole-heartedly agree with the benefits of scorekeeping - crazychester, 2014-07-24, 10:48
        
        No one - Spesh, 2014-07-24, 10:46
        Keeping score can equal praise for effort - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:47
        Keeping score in a game so reliant on teamwork - Kevin, 2014-07-24, 10:58
        Is your coach named Chuck Martin? - Tim, 2014-07-24, 12:11
        
        I like your coach a lot - Greg, 2014-07-24, 11:04
        
        Again, agreed - crazychester, 2014-07-24, 10:53
        
        Isn't half the world bitching about "entitled millenials"? - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:45
        Or do they just show up because they know they won't "win" - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 10:57
        We don't have to emphasize score keeping - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:01
        The alternative ignores the score - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 11:10
        Playing is fun. Winning is more fun. - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:24
        Winning is fun when you're old enough to know - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 11:29
        I recall my kids' teams all taking their losses .... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 18:27
        
        this really isn't that hard - what are the learning targets? - Spesh, 2014-07-24, 11:21
        Winning is one of the …. - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 22:06
        
        Ken's idea would achieve both - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:26
        
        What happened to both/and? - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:59
        Sure - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:09
        
        They may be. But like most PopPsy bullshit, - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:49
        
        I think it teaches kids... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:36
        I was the smallest kid on almost any field, even in HS - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:43
        How many did quit? - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:46
        I honestly can't think of one - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:59
        
        That's a parent problem, not a sports problem - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:43
        I love this line - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:48
        12 just seems really late to me - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:54
        Are you sure? How many such leagues did you play in? - JN, 2014-07-24, 11:11
        I agree with almost everything you wrote - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:17
        Not quite - JN, 2014-07-24, 11:28
        
        But... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 11:00
        
        But your argument goes further than that - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:53
        Let's see - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:58
        Kids can't be competitive at 11 years old? * - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:00
        Why do they need to be? - River, 2014-07-24, 11:16
        Because it's enjoyable - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:25
        I get that, but so is just playing. - River, 2014-07-24, 11:47
        I think the worry about HS soccer is a tempest ... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 18:33
        
        Have to draw a line somewhere - Greg, 2014-07-24, 11:06
        That's not true for Ken and I - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:07
        
        THEY *COMPETED* FOR THAT EGG * - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:07
        
        ~75% of boys keep score anyway, across all sports. - Buck Mulligan, 2014-07-24, 09:43
        This. - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:16
        Chicken and egg - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:36
        If the six year olds had never played in a keep-score game - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:41
        By incessant chatter from overweening parents * - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:43
        That's a parent problem. - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:48
        Um - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:55
        So should we stop talking ND scores with kids? * - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:56
        How do you get that? - Greg, 2014-07-24, 11:07
        The subthread leads to that pretty readily - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:09
        
        uh, ALL OF THEM - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:53
        But that's what you're doing - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:55
        
        Then let the kids keep score in their heads * - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:33
        
        I'm not sure kids need to learn that at 10 years old. - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 09:33
        I think they do - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:21
        practice vs. games, natch. - Buck Mulligan, 2014-07-24, 10:37
        
        Bingo. * - River, 2014-07-24, 09:35
        We're in complete agreement. - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 09:41
        
        Hey Johnny, you scored 6 goals today. You rule! - Greg, 2014-07-24, 09:29
        12-13 is too late though - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:19
        
        That about sums it up. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:43
- The Galaxy? - Chris, 2014-07-24, 08:34
- Homerist comment on Manchester United - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-24, 08:21
  - God bless David Moyes. * - tex29, 2014-07-24, 08:23
    - Your mother was a hamster. * - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-24, 10:44
- And yet, guys like Besler and Zusi chose to stay at home - Jim (OFD), 2014-07-24, 08:20
  - I tend to think that... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 08:26
    - I'd say our best players have a duty to answer - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 08:29
      - I don't know that's it's a desire not to play the best... - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 08:47
        The league is much closer to buying than selling now - irishoutsider, 2014-07-24, 10:50

The NFL is an awful organization - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-24, 07:50
- I can't wait until they pass judgement on Josh Brent - NDTex, 2014-07-24, 08:41
- They have fantasy leagues and gamblers to consider - Greg, 2014-07-24, 08:32
- What a joke - JN, 2014-07-24, 08:30
  - And Jim Irsay has yet to receive any punishment. * - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-24, 08:55
- Israel is altercating the f*ck out of the Gaza Strip * - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 08:26
  - Russian separatists in Ukraine had an altercation with MH17 * - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-07-24, 08:55

The interlocking ND at the 50 is down - hobbs, 2014-07-24, 07:47
- Gosh, that blue looks awful dark. - KGB, 2014-07-24, 08:49
  - They are not putting in piping systems - Grantland, 2014-07-24, 13:35
    - The luxury boxes will be piped. - River, 2014-07-24, 13:48
  - can it heat the stadium when it's negative-eleventy in Nov? * - Jay, 2014-07-24, 12:06
  - It's so hot, you can cook things in your shorts. - Jason93, 2014-07-24, 09:19
  - It is impossible to reason otherwise. * - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 08:56
- You didn't mention the shamrock kickoff spots - Greg, 2014-07-24, 08:17
- I'm going to go play in traffic. - Chris, 2014-07-24, 07:52
  - That's just stupid. * - Silk, 2014-07-24, 08:09
  - Is that the first time we've ever played Navy in primetime? * - CK08, 2014-07-24, 07:57

For Ken Fowler and others re: XKCD - Brendan, 2014-07-24, 06:22
- Sorry - That was me. I came here for reassurance that - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 06:43
  - That's kind of hilarious - Brendan, 2014-07-24, 08:33
    - I now have proof, though, that I can write with conviction. - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 08:39
      - I used to think that, at least - Brendan, 2014-07-24, 08:56
        OT: Did ya'll see that JellyBeans R makes - Grantland, 2014-07-24, 09:26
        They're branded with Harry Potter stuff - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:23

Chuck Martin commented on cheaters - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-23, 21:07
- Must be Chuck Martin day around here - JN, 2014-07-24, 06:16
  - I am rooting for Chuck Martin. * - PMan, 2014-07-24, 08:12
  - The son of a good friend - crazychester, 2014-07-24, 06:44
    - I hope he truly loves big time football. It's not something - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 06:45
  - My feelings mirror Dolly's for Porter Wagoner. - Kevin, 2014-07-24, 06:26
- everyone knows where the booze is, Ness * - Jay, 2014-07-24, 06:09
- I alluded to this below - IrishGuard, 2014-07-24, 05:00
  - and yet everyone wants to clip the nuts of the NCAA - Jay, 2014-07-24, 06:12
    - Isn't it always the SEC that asks for this the loudest? * - Mark, 2014-07-24, 10:12
    - The solution isn't to destroy the NCAA - CK08, 2014-07-24, 06:16
      - a lot of the commentariat seems to want it gone in any form * - Jay, 2014-07-24, 07:07
        isn't enforcement pretty tough? - HumanRobot, 2014-07-24, 07:49
        There are solutions that abrogate the need - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 08:32
        
        That's because it makes for a good sound bite - CK08, 2014-07-24, 07:17
      - Co-sign. * - KGB, 2014-07-24, 07:00
- Oh, I have a guess. A certain someone has a great - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 04:06
- Three words - Greg, 2014-07-23, 22:09
  - I was thinking - Domer99, 2014-07-24, 03:28
  - Martin probably wasn't talking about this school - hobbs, 2014-07-23, 22:19

Mahone was sentenced to 10 days in jail - Pat, 2014-07-23, 19:25
- Four convictions is rough. - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-23, 21:08
  - You must be in Tombstone! - San Pedro, 2014-07-24, 03:33
    - Oh I agree. - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-24, 06:36

How did I not know about All Songs Considered? - BPH, 2014-07-23, 15:23

Looks like we can see a rough idea of the Fenway layout. - Chris, 2014-07-23, 12:38
- How many thousands - Greg, 2014-07-23, 12:42
  - This many? - Chris, 2014-07-23, 12:47
    - Yeah. That looks right. * - Greg, 2014-07-23, 13:00

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