In general, I agree. But...
'Rebuilding' is perfectly acceptable on occasion, once your program has reached a peak. Therefore, it was fine for Lou to have rebuilding years post-1988 because we understood where the 'peak' was.
When was it "fine" for Holtz to have a rebuilding year after '88? He went 12-1, 9-3, 10-3, 10-1-1, and 11-1 in the five seasons right after '88. In '89, people were decrying his poor defense that gave up 3rd and 43. In '90, they disliked the inexplicable loss to Stanford. In '91, it was Cheerios time. In '92, he "played for the tie" against Michigan. In '93, he blew the shot at the title by "not having the team ready" for BC (and by blowing BC out in '92 instead of being more "gentlemanly").
Then came '94, the only real "rebuilding" year in his post-'88 tenure. And that year, it was all about "the game has passed him by" and the momentum that allowed the administration to ease him out was provided by this guy and his ilk:
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Complete thread:
- that Gladwell/Bissinger debate was the first -
Jay,
2012-05-12, 16:24
- I think the metric for Kelly is annual improvement -
Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-13, 06:26
- "At some point wins matter" but when is that? -
Chris (HCC),
2012-05-13, 06:42
- Wins are data. Not the only data. Not always the best data. -
LaFortune Teller,
2012-05-13, 19:10
- "Clunky" is a great word for it -
Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-14, 08:07
- Texas A&M 2011: Discuss.
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Ken Fowler,
2012-05-14, 12:56
- and -
Jay,
2012-05-14, 16:12
- But at some point, the pedal has to hit the metal. -
Bill,
2012-05-14, 19:26
- Or the petal hit the medal
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Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-15, 06:11
- the way I look at it -
Jay,
2012-05-14, 19:47
- That's a valid point. -
Bill,
2012-05-14, 20:23
- In general, I agree. But... -
Greg,
2012-05-15, 11:14
- I was actually talking about sane people. -
Bill,
2012-05-15, 11:26
- Ah. Gotcha. - Greg, 2012-05-15, 11:38
- I was actually talking about sane people. -
Bill,
2012-05-15, 11:26
- I think credibility plays out in recruiting -
Jay,
2012-05-15, 10:57
- Chicken and egg question - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-15, 18:43
- Agreed
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Bill,
2012-05-15, 11:26
- I think there is another goal than winning the championship -
Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-14, 22:35
- That's why I included [and competing for]
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Bill,
2012-05-15, 05:55
- That's why I included [and competing for]
- In general, I agree. But... -
Greg,
2012-05-15, 11:14
- That's a valid point. -
Bill,
2012-05-14, 20:23
- Or the petal hit the medal
- But at some point, the pedal has to hit the metal. -
Bill,
2012-05-14, 19:26
- and -
Jay,
2012-05-14, 16:12
- Texas A&M 2011: Discuss.
- "Clunky" is a great word for it -
Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-14, 08:07
- That's the $64,000 question - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-13, 10:29
- Wins are data. Not the only data. Not always the best data. -
LaFortune Teller,
2012-05-13, 19:10
- "At some point wins matter" but when is that? -
Chris (HCC),
2012-05-13, 06:42
- Brian Kelly is making us more partisan.
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domer.mq,
2012-05-12, 18:21
- Resolved: Kelly is building the foundation for an NC at ND
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Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-12, 17:27
- Not sure what 'proof' there is to claim there -
Bill,
2012-05-12, 18:27
- cosign
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HumanRobot,
2012-05-13, 08:31
- cosign
- good one -
Jay,
2012-05-12, 17:37
- "Notre Dame needs Brian Kelly right now"
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Mike (bart),
2012-05-12, 21:17
- That one is interesting -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2012-05-12, 18:13
- I thought of adding the modifier "today" - Jay, 2012-05-12, 18:30
- "Notre Dame needs Brian Kelly right now"
- Not sure what 'proof' there is to claim there -
Bill,
2012-05-12, 18:27
- Intelligence Squared is very fun -
NDSF,
2012-05-12, 17:09
- I can just imagine -
bpeters07,
2012-05-13, 05:52
- You mean "lying, thieving Albanian dwarf" -
NDSF,
2012-05-13, 09:06
- It was "thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf." -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-13, 21:13
- Fry is no Hitchens -
NDSF,
2012-05-13, 21:23
- I did. - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-13, 21:30
- Fry is no Hitchens -
NDSF,
2012-05-13, 21:23
- It was "thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf." -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-13, 21:13
- You mean "lying, thieving Albanian dwarf" -
NDSF,
2012-05-13, 09:06
- I put that one on the queue -
Jay,
2012-05-12, 17:36
- The Church gets precisely what it deserves
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NDSF,
2012-05-12, 17:38
- Fry is certainly charming ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-12, 18:35
- watched it last night -
Jay,
2012-05-14, 11:34
- Even there, I prefer Hitchens's full frontal ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-14, 18:52
- Hitch -
NDSF,
2012-05-14, 19:34
- On Maciel ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-14, 19:56
- I would enjoy that -
NDSF,
2012-05-14, 20:25
- Sounds good. - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-14, 20:59
- I would enjoy that -
NDSF,
2012-05-14, 20:25
- On Maciel ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-14, 19:56
- Hitch -
NDSF,
2012-05-14, 19:34
- Even there, I prefer Hitchens's full frontal ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-14, 18:52
- He was horrid. -
Buck Mulligan,
2012-05-12, 19:49
- The experience of debating Hitchens ... - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-13, 05:06
- watched it last night -
Jay,
2012-05-14, 11:34
- Fry is certainly charming ... -
Slainte Joe,
2012-05-12, 18:35
- The Church gets precisely what it deserves
- I can just imagine -
bpeters07,
2012-05-13, 05:52
- I think the metric for Kelly is annual improvement -
Jeff (BGS),
2012-05-13, 06:26