Fry is certainly charming ...

by Slainte Joe , Raleigh, Saturday, May 12, 2012, 18:35 (5141 days ago) @ NDSF

and I both respect and enjoy his work as an actor.

But I was dismayed by his speech in that debate. Straw men. Untruth. Anachronisms. It was performance art. Not argument.

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that Gladwell/Bissinger debate was the first - Jay, 2012-05-12, 16:24
- I think the metric for Kelly is annual improvement - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-13, 06:26
  - "At some point wins matter" but when is that? - Chris (HCC), 2012-05-13, 06:42
    - Wins are data. Not the only data. Not always the best data. - LaFortune Teller, 2012-05-13, 19:10
      - "Clunky" is a great word for it - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-14, 08:07
        
        Texas A&M 2011: Discuss. - Ken Fowler, 2012-05-14, 12:56
        
        and - Jay, 2012-05-14, 16:12
        
        But at some point, the pedal has to hit the metal. - Bill, 2012-05-14, 19:26
        
        Or the petal hit the medal - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-15, 06:11
        
        the way I look at it - Jay, 2012-05-14, 19:47
        
        That's a valid point. - Bill, 2012-05-14, 20:23
        
        In general, I agree. But... - Greg, 2012-05-15, 11:14
        
        I was actually talking about sane people. - Bill, 2012-05-15, 11:26
        
        Ah. Gotcha. - Greg, 2012-05-15, 11:38
        
        I think credibility plays out in recruiting - Jay, 2012-05-15, 10:57
        
        Chicken and egg question - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-15, 18:43
        
        Agreed - Bill, 2012-05-15, 11:26
        
        I think there is another goal than winning the championship - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-14, 22:35
        
        That's why I included [and competing for] - Bill, 2012-05-15, 05:55
    - That's the $64,000 question - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-13, 10:29
- Brian Kelly is making us more partisan. - domer.mq, 2012-05-12, 18:21
- Resolved: Kelly is building the foundation for an NC at ND - Jeff (BGS), 2012-05-12, 17:27
  - Not sure what 'proof' there is to claim there - Bill, 2012-05-12, 18:27
    - cosign - HumanRobot, 2012-05-13, 08:31
  - good one - Jay, 2012-05-12, 17:37
    - "Notre Dame needs Brian Kelly right now" - Mike (bart), 2012-05-12, 21:17
    - That one is interesting - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2012-05-12, 18:13
      - I thought of adding the modifier "today" - Jay, 2012-05-12, 18:30
- Intelligence Squared is very fun - NDSF, 2012-05-12, 17:09
  - I can just imagine - bpeters07, 2012-05-13, 05:52
    - You mean "lying, thieving Albanian dwarf" - NDSF, 2012-05-13, 09:06
      - It was "thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf." - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-13, 21:13
        
        Fry is no Hitchens - NDSF, 2012-05-13, 21:23
        
        I did. - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-13, 21:30
  - I put that one on the queue - Jay, 2012-05-12, 17:36
    - The Church gets precisely what it deserves - NDSF, 2012-05-12, 17:38
      - Fry is certainly charming ... - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-12, 18:35
        
        watched it last night - Jay, 2012-05-14, 11:34
        
        Even there, I prefer Hitchens's full frontal ... - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-14, 18:52
        
        Hitch - NDSF, 2012-05-14, 19:34
        
        On Maciel ... - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-14, 19:56
        
        I would enjoy that - NDSF, 2012-05-14, 20:25
        
        Sounds good. - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-14, 20:59
        
        He was horrid. - Buck Mulligan, 2012-05-12, 19:49
        
        The experience of debating Hitchens ... - Slainte Joe, 2012-05-13, 05:06

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Fry is certainly charming ...