There's the rub

by Domer99, John Wesley Powell's Expedition Island, Tuesday, July 07, 2026, 09:55 (15 days ago) @ HullieAndMikes

You are probably right about coaching...but the issue is most really good coaching takes place at elite travel clubs, which cost a lot of money. So, it's a chicken-or-the-egg debate.

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Some takeaways from this game. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 18:57
- Having stopped to think a bit, a question for all - Greg, 2026-07-07, 13:06
  - And France only beat 1-0 - Chris, 2026-07-07, 14:01
- Flashbacks to 2012 ND Football - ndbk32, 2026-07-06, 22:53
  - Nails it. Weaknesses exposed - Jack, 2026-07-07, 05:38
  - That's how I felt too. - oviedoirish, 2026-07-07, 04:54
- Tonight was January 7, 2013 all over again - HCE, 2026-07-06, 20:35
  - Nah - Charles, 2026-07-08, 13:22
  - Beat me to it - ndbk32, 2026-07-06, 22:58
- Some super basic questions... - Mike (bart), 2026-07-06, 19:08
  - Some observations. - PMan, 2026-07-06, 20:43
    - I don't know from anything - Greg, 2026-07-07, 07:24
    - Is there truth to the idea we have adverse talent selection? - Mike (bart), 2026-07-07, 06:58
      - Need a path to big money as a teenager - TSchlidt, 2026-07-07, 09:20
        
        It's not the story anymore, if it ever was - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 09:39
        
        is that money, or genetics? - KGB, 2026-07-07, 12:32
        
        It's actually hard to say - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 12:46
      - I don't buy that anymore - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 07:45
        
        The game knowledge thing is fascinating to me - Regular Joseph, 2026-07-07, 18:44
        
        Worth noting, our guys play in the world's best leagues - HCE, 2026-07-07, 20:03
        
        This is on Poch as manager more than “knowledge” - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:00
      - Sort of? - HCE, 2026-07-07, 07:37
      - For elite athletes with aptitude in soccer and one of the - BillyGoat, 2026-07-07, 07:05
        
        I agree - IrishGuard, 2026-07-07, 09:32
  - On #1 - it’s so much better than it was - Dylan, 2026-07-06, 19:27
  - To go along with your #1... - domer.mq, 2026-07-06, 19:21
    - I haven’t researched this issue too much. - San Pedro, 2026-07-07, 05:58
    - That's a good point. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:26
      - AAU basketball doesn't seem to hurt - Mike (bart), 2026-07-06, 19:29
        
        There is no greater authority on this than Kobe Bryant - hobbs, 2026-07-06, 20:40
        
        Maybe - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 05:10
        
        Can't argue with any of that. - hobbs, 2026-07-07, 07:27
        
        Our best young players go to Europe or MLS academies. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:35
        
        Right - bobbywal, 2026-07-06, 20:01
        
        AAU isn't necessarily a net plus though. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-07-06, 19:32
        
        I’d like to read a deep dive into the differences - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-06, 19:43
        
        There's the rub - Domer99, 2026-07-07, 09:55
        
        Travel expands and expands until public leagues all die - MattG, 2026-07-07, 07:32
        
        Euro soccer elite are already vacuumed up by then - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 07:38
        
        Maybe this is too shallow - Domer99, 2026-07-07, 10:04
        
        For some clubs it's also a money grab - okerland, 2026-07-06, 20:33
        
        not only that - Pat, 2026-07-06, 21:24
        
        But I'm sure corollaries of this exist over there too - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 05:17
        
        I forgot that we are part of the same soccer club :) - okerland, 2026-07-06, 21:40
        
        I don't know that I've ever seen one definitive comparison. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-07-06, 19:53
        
        My guess is coaching and training. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:52
        
        I'd buy that - Mike (bart), 2026-07-06, 19:39
  - PMan and HCE are better sources but I'll do my best. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:17
    - Thanks. Would not have guessed (1) - Mike (bart), 2026-07-06, 19:18
      - I think the reason many countries have seemingly - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-07-06, 19:25
- Nobody else gave up 4 goals in round of 32 or 16. - Mr. Natural, 2026-07-06, 19:07
- Where is USMNT in CFB terms? - HumanRobot, 2026-07-06, 19:00
  - JMU or Texas Tech - Charles, 2026-07-08, 13:31
  - West Virginia - they both play Almost Heaven…. - PasadenaDomer, 2026-07-07, 13:44
  - I was thinking TAMU - HumanRobot, 2026-07-07, 13:43
    - Sweden. - PMan, 2026-07-07, 15:58
  - Boise State - PMan, 2026-07-07, 13:37
    - I used BSU as a comparable to my LSU buddy who knows nothing - cdawg, 2026-07-07, 14:44
      - That's the new PAC-12 to you. - PMan, 2026-07-07, 15:53
  - Nebraska. - omahadomer, 2026-07-06, 19:19
    - Uruguay. - PMan, 2026-07-07, 15:56
      - But the early hype and then celebrating going - omahadomer, 2026-07-07, 18:03
        
        Nobody of worth considers this Cup a “success.” - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:07
  - Michigan St.? - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:02
    - Scotland? - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:12

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