Travel expands and expands until public leagues all die
My oldest was in travel baseball RIGHT as we were hitting that inflection point.
At first, everyone was in the public league and the absolute best dozen or so kids in town also played on the local travel team.
A couple years later, our town’s travel program had 3 teams, 2 of which were full time, so those kids had to drop out of the public league (and it established the public league as “less-than”, which hurt participation even more)
By his 8th grade year, there was one public league team in our town; which had to travel 10+ miles to a different city for every game. We were doing weeknights in, like, Homer Glen or Lockport.
A couple of years later; most towns have a half dozen travel teams and NO public leagues.
We went from a cheap and convenient fun option for everyone (with truly exceptional players being singled out for additional high level play), to a wildly expensive league with 1/3 as many kids participating and everyone else frozen out.
It’s such a recent development that even current MLB guys think it’s alien.
Complete thread:
- Some takeaways from this game. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-06, 18:57
- Having stopped to think a bit, a question for all -
Greg,
2026-07-07, 13:06
- And France only beat 1-0
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Chris,
2026-07-07, 14:01
- And France only beat 1-0
- Flashbacks to 2012 ND Football -
ndbk32,
2026-07-06, 22:53
- Nails it. Weaknesses exposed - Jack, 2026-07-07, 05:38
- That's how I felt too. - oviedoirish, 2026-07-07, 04:54
- Tonight was January 7, 2013 all over again -
HCE,
2026-07-06, 20:35
- Nah - Charles, 2026-07-08, 13:22
- Beat me to it - ndbk32, 2026-07-06, 22:58
- Some super basic questions... -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-06, 19:08
- Some observations. -
PMan,
2026-07-06, 20:43
- I don't know from anything - Greg, 2026-07-07, 07:24
- Is there truth to the idea we have adverse talent selection? -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-07, 06:58
- Need a path to big money as a teenager -
TSchlidt,
2026-07-07, 09:20
- It's not the story anymore, if it ever was -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 09:39
- is that money, or genetics?
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KGB,
2026-07-07, 12:32
- It's actually hard to say - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 12:46
- is that money, or genetics?
- It's not the story anymore, if it ever was -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 09:39
- I don't buy that anymore -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 07:45
- The game knowledge thing is fascinating to me -
Regular Joseph,
2026-07-07, 18:44
- Worth noting, our guys play in the world's best leagues - HCE, 2026-07-07, 20:03
- This is on Poch as manager more than “knowledge” - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:00
- The game knowledge thing is fascinating to me -
Regular Joseph,
2026-07-07, 18:44
- Sort of? - HCE, 2026-07-07, 07:37
- For elite athletes with aptitude in soccer and one of the -
BillyGoat,
2026-07-07, 07:05
- I agree - IrishGuard, 2026-07-07, 09:32
- Need a path to big money as a teenager -
TSchlidt,
2026-07-07, 09:20
- On #1 - it’s so much better than it was - Dylan, 2026-07-06, 19:27
- To go along with your #1... -
domer.mq,
2026-07-06, 19:21
- I haven’t researched this issue too much. - San Pedro, 2026-07-07, 05:58
- That's a good point. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-06, 19:26
- AAU basketball doesn't seem to hurt -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-06, 19:29
- There is no greater authority on this than Kobe Bryant -
hobbs,
2026-07-06, 20:40
- Maybe -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 05:10
- Can't argue with any of that.
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hobbs,
2026-07-07, 07:27
- Can't argue with any of that.
- Maybe -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 05:10
- Our best young players go to Europe or MLS academies. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-06, 19:35
- Right - bobbywal, 2026-07-06, 20:01
- AAU isn't necessarily a net plus though. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2026-07-06, 19:32
- I’d like to read a deep dive into the differences -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-06, 19:43
- There's the rub - Domer99, 2026-07-07, 09:55
- Travel expands and expands until public leagues all die -
MattG,
2026-07-07, 07:32
- Euro soccer elite are already vacuumed up by then -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 07:38
- Maybe this is too shallow - Domer99, 2026-07-07, 10:04
- Euro soccer elite are already vacuumed up by then -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-07, 07:38
- For some clubs it's also a money grab -
okerland,
2026-07-06, 20:33
- not only that -
Pat,
2026-07-06, 21:24
- But I'm sure corollaries of this exist over there too - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-07, 05:17
- I forgot that we are part of the same soccer club :) - okerland, 2026-07-06, 21:40
- not only that -
Pat,
2026-07-06, 21:24
- I don't know that I've ever seen one definitive comparison. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-07-06, 19:53
- My guess is coaching and training. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-07-06, 19:52
- I'd buy that - Mike (bart), 2026-07-06, 19:39
- I’d like to read a deep dive into the differences -
HullieAndMikes,
2026-07-06, 19:43
- There is no greater authority on this than Kobe Bryant -
hobbs,
2026-07-06, 20:40
- AAU basketball doesn't seem to hurt -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-06, 19:29
- PMan and HCE are better sources but I'll do my best. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-06, 19:17
- Thanks. Would not have guessed (1) -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-06, 19:18
- I think the reason many countries have seemingly - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-07-06, 19:25
- Thanks. Would not have guessed (1) -
Mike (bart),
2026-07-06, 19:18
- Some observations. -
PMan,
2026-07-06, 20:43
- Nobody else gave up 4 goals in round of 32 or 16. - Mr. Natural, 2026-07-06, 19:07
- Where is USMNT in CFB terms?
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HumanRobot,
2026-07-06, 19:00
- JMU or Texas Tech
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Charles,
2026-07-08, 13:31
- West Virginia - they both play Almost Heaven….
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PasadenaDomer,
2026-07-07, 13:44
- I was thinking TAMU
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HumanRobot,
2026-07-07, 13:43
- Sweden. - PMan, 2026-07-07, 15:58
- Boise State
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PMan,
2026-07-07, 13:37
- I used BSU as a comparable to my LSU buddy who knows nothing -
cdawg,
2026-07-07, 14:44
- That's the new PAC-12 to you. - PMan, 2026-07-07, 15:53
- I used BSU as a comparable to my LSU buddy who knows nothing -
cdawg,
2026-07-07, 14:44
- Nebraska.
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omahadomer,
2026-07-06, 19:19
- Uruguay. -
PMan,
2026-07-07, 15:56
- But the early hype and then celebrating going -
omahadomer,
2026-07-07, 18:03
- Nobody of worth considers this Cup a “success.” - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:07
- But the early hype and then celebrating going -
omahadomer,
2026-07-07, 18:03
- Uruguay. -
PMan,
2026-07-07, 15:56
- Michigan St.?
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Bryan (IrishCavan),
2026-07-06, 19:02
- Scotland? - PMan, 2026-07-07, 19:12
- JMU or Texas Tech
- Having stopped to think a bit, a question for all -
Greg,
2026-07-07, 13:06