He also can't seem to figure out his message on the offense

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Monday, September 09, 2024, 11:10 (138 days ago) @ Jay

And how they want Leonard to operate within it. Last week, there were no concerns about Leonard throwing deep. Immediately before the game, the message was "he's going to play within the offense, doesn't need anything spectacular, etc." Now he's saying that the deep shots are there to be had.

Maybe I'm just annoyed with his delivery lately, but he seems to be flip-flopping all over the place about what the offense is supposed to look like, how's he going to operate within it, what his capabilities are, blah, blah. I know he shouldn't be divulging state secrets (ie, we know Leonard can't throw the deep ball, so we're gonna have to work underneath in the passing game), but there are red flags flying everywhere.

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today's presser - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:17
- Nick Saban wasn't bsing when he spoke about process. - Grantland, 2024-09-09, 13:33
  - Neither was Joe Ross - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 13:52
    - Or Bob Ross. We all need a little Bob Ross right now. - Grantland, 2024-09-09, 14:23
      - An adulterous hack? - PMan, 2024-09-09, 14:31
- Don't bother. Save your time. Coach speak bullshit. - Chris, 2024-09-09, 10:25
  - Isn’t that coaching 101? - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 10:54
    - Because we are on our 2nd stage of grief - Domer99, 2024-09-09, 11:04
  - I don't know, it seems pretty revealing - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:27
    - He also can't seem to figure out his message on the offense - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:10
      - The effort Saturday seemed like sabotage. - KGB, 2024-09-09, 14:00
        
        I'm also confused by the Price usage - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 14:04
        
        Part of the problem is so many 3rd & longs - KGB, 2024-09-09, 14:23
        
        The situational personnel usage needs to be reconsidered - Charles, 2024-09-09, 15:10
        
        McCullough loves situation-specific personnel - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 16:34
        
        I know it can't be true - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 14:38
        
        That happened in the late Kelly years? - CK08, 2024-09-09, 15:09
        
        I recall seeing post-game quotes - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 16:32
        
        I think I remember hearing that after the Stanford loss - MattG, 2024-09-09, 17:23
        
        It was probably 2019 Michigan - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 17:38
        
        Well that would have its own explanation - CK08, 2024-09-10, 02:51
      - the one true thing he's said about quarterbacks - Jay, 2024-09-09, 11:18
        
        A man's got to know his limitations - Jack, 2024-09-09, 11:29
    - I don't see preparation as a factor at all - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 11:05
      - Turnovers are killers - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 11:38
        
        And we functionally had three. The two picks plus the first - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 11:58
      - couldn't get off the field at critical times - Jay, 2024-09-09, 11:15
        
        is that really a prep issue, though? - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 11:45
        
        It's a prep issue of you didn't bother coming - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 11:55
        
        Freeman said they had our defense flowing sideways - Jay, 2024-09-09, 11:59
        
        They owned us on second down - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 11:17
        
        I'd have to go back and watch again, but I'd - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 11:32
        
        Agreed. It felt like those years we played Navy and sat back - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 12:01
        
        Freeman mentioned that in his presser - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 11:41
        
        It was so weird. So many first down stuffs to get them - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 11:25
        
        So many Bush Pushes - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 11:28
      - ND seemed to be getting destroyed on the LOS - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 11:07
        
        Donovan Hinish was a traffic cone. - terribletr, 2024-09-09, 12:17
        
        He’s not big enough for high D1 - San Pedro, 2024-09-09, 13:29
        
        He's great as a No. 3 guy. The Rubio injury made - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 13:42
    - There's no reason to take that at face value. - Tim, 2024-09-09, 10:46
      - it's the simplest answer though, isn't it? - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:49
        
        The 2nd and 1 call proved that we didn’t take them seriously - JD in Portland, 2024-09-09, 15:06
        
        Exactly right. - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 15:23
        
        Agree. Bold thong to put front and center - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:53
        
        I guess it's better to put 'underprepared' out there - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 11:06
        
        I suspect Denbrock came in ready to "work on some stuff" - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 11:11
        
        On RL as a gamer... - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 11:18
        
        He was that guy against A&M. - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 11:24
        
        That is also the bill of goods we were sold - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 11:20
        
        Makes one wonder... - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 11:24
        
        It was identical to 2018 Ball State - CK08, 2024-09-09, 11:17
        
        Ball State postgame thread - Jay, 2024-09-09, 11:40
        
        I was hesitant to click on a “bold thong” post - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 10:54
        
        adding "bold thong" as a thread tag - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:56
        
        Is there such a thing as a “timid” thong? - NDinVA, 2024-09-09, 11:10
        
        Lol. As in like an entry-level. - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 11:46
        
        Gotta drive pageviews - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:55
    - We have a serious "read our own press clippings" issue - CK08, 2024-09-09, 10:40
    - While I admire the honesty, file that one under - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 10:34
      - "Rice University scares the hell out of me" - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:39
        
        I'll be honest. It insults our intelligence when - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 10:43
    - Rat poison - BPH, 2024-09-09, 10:33
    - I'm not feeling him so I'll put myself in timeout. - Chris, 2024-09-09, 10:33
      - understandable - Jay, 2024-09-09, 10:38
        
        Seems like Irish fans have been a patient bunch - Domer99, 2024-09-09, 10:50
        
        I still remember Stuffing the Passer's "press conference" - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 11:10
        
        STP rabbit hole briefly derailed my day. - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 11:19
        
        always a good idea - Jay, 2024-09-09, 12:10
        
        For all we know, NIU is ‘95 Northwestern - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 11:00
        
        It absolutely does - CK08, 2024-09-09, 11:03
- Purdue depth chart: Leonard, QB1 - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 10:19
  - This is the right call - BPH, 2024-09-09, 10:21
    - First 2 drives should be similar to the first drive - ndbk32, 2024-09-09, 13:11
      - Doesn't Purdue know that as well? - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 13:50
        
        My not-completely serious point - ndbk32, 2024-09-09, 14:13
        
        There shouldn't be a controversy - Charles, 2024-09-09, 15:13
        
        This - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 16:49
        
        Not huge sample size for Angeli numbers, but - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 16:14
        
        It's not just about that. It's about whether Angeli has a - BillyGoat, 2024-09-10, 06:44
    - Disagree. - PMan, 2024-09-09, 12:21
      - Exactly. Flushing a couple of early drives down the toilet - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 12:39
    - Pretty sure his performance has already dictated it - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 10:49
      - I'm in the start-someone-else camp. - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 12:05
      - He took much more of the 'Jay' approach - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:58
    - Agree. Have Angeli ready, though. - CK08, 2024-09-09, 10:41
    - yes - KGB, 2024-09-09, 10:37
    - I agree with that. Also, if you've made a different decision - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 10:27

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He also can't seem to figure out his message on the offense