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by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Monday, September 09, 2024, 11:02 (32 days ago) @ Mike (bart)

Some Leonard scapegoating. Loy is a national dude, but I don't think that had been announced at the time Leonard committed to ND. Loy is saying now that Will Howard would have taken an ND offer if given.

Hindsight is 20/20 of course, and we're still dealing with a small sample size here, but if the staff had the choice between the two, really looks like they screwed the pooch there.

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Denbrock, Leonard and the Offense - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 07:45
- "Both QBs will play" - Supe, 2024-09-09, 09:07
- If you believe in Pass Efficiency as a QB metric - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 08:54
- The politics of at all are kind of interesting - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 07:57
  - The paysites are already starting up - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:02
  - Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois in the home opener. - PMan, 2024-09-09, 10:06
  - Investment vs. Results - NDJuban, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - Winning is the only ROI. And I very much doubt that anybody - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:20
      - You and I were in a race to say the same thing. - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:24
  - yup - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - For anyone donating NIL money for Riley Leonard - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:22
      - it's probably a lot more fraught than that - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:02
        
        One is not a pattern. On bust #3, you have credibility - atxND, 2024-09-09, 09:07
        
        Looks like both their Duke transfers are busts - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:05
        
        I think you're right but it's the most common thing in the - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:16
        
        Riley Leonard isn't going to sink Denbrock - KGB, 2024-09-09, 09:59
        
        Bad news is 16-14 NIU wins in South Bend. - atxND, 2024-09-09, 09:57
        
        good point - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:02
  - I'm less worried about the politics - BPH, 2024-09-09, 08:04
    - it would blow away everything I know about team sports - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:09
      - Angeli probably had some locker room support - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:04
        
        Exactly. To me that bowl performance was impressive, - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 12:10
      - Malik Zaire had locker room defenders somehow - CK08, 2024-09-09, 09:05
  - Freeman can couch it in injury - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 08:02
    - Exactly. Everyone saw his throwing hand hit the helmet - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - I agree, I think it's the dominantly superior move - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:03
- An example of the RPO not working (I think) - Charles, 2024-09-09, 07:55
  - yup that's the skip RPO idea - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 07:56
    - Great example, and shows how much a change at QB could help - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:04
      - Yeah, the little things would go a long way here - Charles, 2024-09-09, 08:33
      - it's also why - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 08:30
        
        Goolsby is smart, but I think he likes his "takes." - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:44
        
        indeed - KGB, 2024-09-09, 09:12
        
        I think there are some things we know at this point..... - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:53
        
        a quibble - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 09:56
        
        Yes. Ideally those are your two bellcow receivers. And you - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 09:57
        
        it's honestly not even clear what we were trying to do - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:01
        
        it's the Duke 2022 offense - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 10:10
        
        Faison expected back this week, fwiw - KGB, 2024-09-09, 10:00
        
        Great summary - BPH, 2024-09-09, 09:49
        
        haven't heard his take on this, but I think it is fair - Jay, 2024-09-09, 08:49
        
        do you have some playcalling/design in mind? - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 10:55
        
        We had Leonard before we had Denbrock. I wonder whether - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:54
        
        we also have protection problems, and receiver problems - Jay, 2024-09-09, 08:59
        
        you don't see the plays that don't happen because it comes - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:11
        
        not saying he didn't suck - Jay, 2024-09-09, 09:16
        
        Pretty sure, the bad snaps happened on Saturday also - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 09:05

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