The politics of at all are kind of interesting

by Mike (bart), Monday, September 09, 2024, 07:57 (27 days ago) @ HumanRobot

It would seem Freeman's best move would be to throw Leonard under the bus and hope Angeli or whomever can run off a bunch of wins and then Leonard ends up scapegoated. It seems very foolish to believe there's a high ceiling player in there ready to emerge this season so building around him gets you nowhere and carries a high reputational risk.

I'm not sure who exactly paid up for Leoanrd's NIL package, though, and how they'd feel about that move; or who Leonard's agent is and what that would mean. If you're the ND admin I think you really, really are hoping Freeman can get this all into the mirror and make it look like Leonard's fault. Even if Angeli, Carr or Minchey drops another game or two, if you have next year's quarterback by the end of the season you at least have something to sell. If you ride a busted rental to a terrible outcome things could get real ugly on the donor front

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Denbrock, Leonard and the Offense - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 07:45
- "Both QBs will play" - Supe, 2024-09-09, 09:07
- If you believe in Pass Efficiency as a QB metric - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 08:54
- The politics of at all are kind of interesting - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 07:57
  - The paysites are already starting up - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:02
  - Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois in the home opener. - PMan, 2024-09-09, 10:06
  - Investment vs. Results - NDJuban, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - Winning is the only ROI. And I very much doubt that anybody - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:20
      - You and I were in a race to say the same thing. - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:24
  - yup - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - For anyone donating NIL money for Riley Leonard - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:22
      - it's probably a lot more fraught than that - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:02
        
        One is not a pattern. On bust #3, you have credibility - atxND, 2024-09-09, 09:07
        
        Looks like both their Duke transfers are busts - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:05
        
        I think you're right but it's the most common thing in the - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:16
        
        Riley Leonard isn't going to sink Denbrock - KGB, 2024-09-09, 09:59
        
        Bad news is 16-14 NIU wins in South Bend. - atxND, 2024-09-09, 09:57
        
        good point - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:02
  - I'm less worried about the politics - BPH, 2024-09-09, 08:04
    - it would blow away everything I know about team sports - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:09
      - Angeli probably had some locker room support - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-09, 11:04
        
        Exactly. To me that bowl performance was impressive, - Madtown, 2024-09-09, 12:10
      - Malik Zaire had locker room defenders somehow - CK08, 2024-09-09, 09:05
  - Freeman can couch it in injury - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 08:02
    - Exactly. Everyone saw his throwing hand hit the helmet - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:18
    - I agree, I think it's the dominantly superior move - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:03
- An example of the RPO not working (I think) - Charles, 2024-09-09, 07:55
  - yup that's the skip RPO idea - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 07:56
    - Great example, and shows how much a change at QB could help - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 08:04
      - Yeah, the little things would go a long way here - Charles, 2024-09-09, 08:33
      - it's also why - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 08:30
        
        Goolsby is smart, but I think he likes his "takes." - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:44
        
        indeed - KGB, 2024-09-09, 09:12
        
        I think there are some things we know at this point..... - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:53
        
        a quibble - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 09:56
        
        Yes. Ideally those are your two bellcow receivers. And you - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 09:57
        
        it's honestly not even clear what we were trying to do - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 10:01
        
        it's the Duke 2022 offense - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 10:10
        
        Faison expected back this week, fwiw - KGB, 2024-09-09, 10:00
        
        Great summary - BPH, 2024-09-09, 09:49
        
        haven't heard his take on this, but I think it is fair - Jay, 2024-09-09, 08:49
        
        do you have some playcalling/design in mind? - HumanRobot, 2024-09-09, 10:55
        
        We had Leonard before we had Denbrock. I wonder whether - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 08:54
        
        we also have protection problems, and receiver problems - Jay, 2024-09-09, 08:59
        
        you don't see the plays that don't happen because it comes - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 09:11
        
        not saying he didn't suck - Jay, 2024-09-09, 09:16
        
        Pretty sure, the bad snaps happened on Saturday also - Jeff (BGS), 2024-09-09, 09:05

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The politics of at all are kind of interesting