And it's kind of a self-fulfilling bit, right?

by Mike (bart), Monday, September 09, 2024, 07:51 (27 days ago) @ BillyGoat

Like, the Baylors and Aurburns and Michigans who cheated their way through kind of also saw their programs get blown up. Do you want the title that's going to also crater your program?

It was one of the remarkable things about Saban's Alabama - he had pretty high grad rates and really never got afoul of the NCAA.

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Question for the Group (starts happily) - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:12
- I certainly wouldn't take an asterisk title - Charles, 2024-09-09, 07:48
  - LSU is weird. Over the last 30 years, they are (I think) - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 09:23
- Win one without an asterisk? - KGB, 2024-09-09, 07:12
  - Right. I find this whole thing compelling because of the - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 07:40
    - And it's kind of a self-fulfilling bit, right? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 07:51
      - If Saban was cheating (and not saying he was) - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:01
- Semi-hijack - terribletr, 2024-09-09, 04:58
  - It's worth monitoring - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:19
    - I would really like us - CK08, 2024-09-09, 08:37
- This is an excellent thought exercise - Dallasdomer, 2024-09-08, 20:43
- There will be no more random NCs - BPH, 2024-09-08, 20:05
  - D. In a playoff without Georgia. - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 04:11
- One title. I would be extremely happy - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:37
  - Did you follow them closely all that while post-2016? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:51
    - Yeah, pretty much every day - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:04
- This doesn't really answer your question... - domer.mq, 2024-09-08, 19:36
  - Urban Meyer's first championship - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:52
    - ND's last championship was closer to Cleopatra... - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 20:32
- Just curious - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:06
  - No, because it became clear Kelly couldn't produce great - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:16
    - Do you have an example of what the alternative looks like? - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:32
      - A bunch - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:44
        
        Fair enough. That's what I figured - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:55
        
        Flags fly forever. - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:12
- Without hesitation. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-08, 18:43
  - Would you still stay invested? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:57
    - Well, that's changing the hypothetical a bit. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 08:32
- I'd rather be good and hold onto my principals - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:27
  - Assume you get to keep your principles in either case - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:32
    - OK, but that's not the Michigan scenario - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:45
- Title. - Ken Fowler, 2024-09-08, 18:19
  - What's long? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:34
    - That’s practically every sports team already - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:47
      - Win forever is the goal in my mind - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:51
        
        The team you’re suggesting is the Vikings - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:42
        
        You just get driven mad by a different problem - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:56
        
        Sounds engaging though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:03
    - Probably - HumanRobot, 2024-09-08, 18:39
      - Baseball is so easy to ignore though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:47
        
        We’ve been a middling to garbage program for 25 years - San Pedro, 2024-09-08, 21:00
        
        30 at least - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:15
        
        Well we aren't Nebraska either. - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 21:30
        
        True. We are still relevant and our coach doesn't do meth. - San Pedro, 2024-09-09, 07:22
        
        30 years from now no one will know the difference - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:54
        
        Who are we talking about? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:23
        
        Nobody will care about the national championships either - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 22:21
        
        Absolutely and without hesitation - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:44
        
        I'm with you. - oviedoirish, 2024-09-09, 05:29
        
        Yeah but it's someone else's legacy, it's my hobby - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:12
        
        As a subway, this is my feeling in spades. - Jason93, 2024-09-09, 05:31
        
        Think about the Michigan fans - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:40
        
        The Michigan fans who are friends of mine... - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 06:47
        
        Same here - CK08, 2024-09-09, 11:20
        
        Those are normals - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 17:08

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And it's kind of a self-fulfilling bit, right?