I certainly wouldn't take an asterisk title

by Charles, Austin, TX, Monday, September 09, 2024, 07:48 (87 days ago) @ Mike (bart)

like Michigan has.

Good question.

As you put it below, I *think* I'd sign up for 89-93 instead of 85, 88, 97, 99, and 01.

That's four years of really bad and really frustrating football.

On the other hand, part of the ND fan experience is talking about and competing in the these sorts of number counts of championships, Heisman winners, etc... Is this a repeatable phenomenon where it's 2 titles a decade in exchange for 8 years of crap? I think I'd probably take that.

Maybe the closest analog to actually doing that is LSU, though their down years have been better than the ND years you cited. But I'd rather be LSU than Oklahoma over the last 20 years.

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Question for the Group (starts happily) - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:12
- I certainly wouldn't take an asterisk title - Charles, 2024-09-09, 07:48
  - LSU is weird. Over the last 30 years, they are (I think) - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 09:23
- Win one without an asterisk? - KGB, 2024-09-09, 07:12
  - Right. I find this whole thing compelling because of the - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 07:40
    - And it's kind of a self-fulfilling bit, right? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 07:51
      - If Saban was cheating (and not saying he was) - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:01
- Semi-hijack - terribletr, 2024-09-09, 04:58
  - It's worth monitoring - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:19
    - I would really like us - CK08, 2024-09-09, 08:37
- This is an excellent thought exercise - Dallasdomer, 2024-09-08, 20:43
- There will be no more random NCs - BPH, 2024-09-08, 20:05
  - D. In a playoff without Georgia. - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 04:11
- One title. I would be extremely happy - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:37
  - Did you follow them closely all that while post-2016? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:51
    - Yeah, pretty much every day - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:04
- This doesn't really answer your question... - domer.mq, 2024-09-08, 19:36
  - Urban Meyer's first championship - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:52
    - ND's last championship was closer to Cleopatra... - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 20:32
- Just curious - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:06
  - No, because it became clear Kelly couldn't produce great - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:16
    - Do you have an example of what the alternative looks like? - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:32
      - A bunch - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:44
        
        Fair enough. That's what I figured - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:55
        
        Flags fly forever. - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:12
- Without hesitation. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-08, 18:43
  - Would you still stay invested? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:57
    - Well, that's changing the hypothetical a bit. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 08:32
- I'd rather be good and hold onto my principals - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:27
  - Assume you get to keep your principles in either case - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:32
    - OK, but that's not the Michigan scenario - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:45
- Title. - Ken Fowler, 2024-09-08, 18:19
  - What's long? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:34
    - That’s practically every sports team already - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:47
      - Win forever is the goal in my mind - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:51
        
        The team you’re suggesting is the Vikings - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:42
        
        You just get driven mad by a different problem - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:56
        
        Sounds engaging though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:03
    - Probably - HumanRobot, 2024-09-08, 18:39
      - Baseball is so easy to ignore though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:47
        
        We’ve been a middling to garbage program for 25 years - San Pedro, 2024-09-08, 21:00
        
        30 at least - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:15
        
        Well we aren't Nebraska either. - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 21:30
        
        True. We are still relevant and our coach doesn't do meth. - San Pedro, 2024-09-09, 07:22
        
        30 years from now no one will know the difference - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:54
        
        Who are we talking about? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:23
        
        Nobody will care about the national championships either - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 22:21
        
        Absolutely and without hesitation - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:44
        
        I'm with you. - oviedoirish, 2024-09-09, 05:29
        
        Yeah but it's someone else's legacy, it's my hobby - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:12
        
        As a subway, this is my feeling in spades. - Jason93, 2024-09-09, 05:31
        
        Think about the Michigan fans - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:40
        
        The Michigan fans who are friends of mine... - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 06:47
        
        Same here - CK08, 2024-09-09, 11:20
        
        Those are normals - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 17:08

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I certainly wouldn't take an asterisk title