Right. I find this whole thing compelling because of the

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Monday, September 09, 2024, 07:40 (138 days ago) @ KGB

pursuit of a title by an ND team that would do so by following the rules (to the outer boundary within the law) and making their kids actually get real degrees.

I have about as much respect for Auburn's title with Cam Newton as I do for the still-standing East German world records.

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Question for the Group (starts happily) - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:12
- I certainly wouldn't take an asterisk title - Charles, 2024-09-09, 07:48
  - LSU is weird. Over the last 30 years, they are (I think) - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 09:23
- Win one without an asterisk? - KGB, 2024-09-09, 07:12
  - Right. I find this whole thing compelling because of the - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 07:40
    - And it's kind of a self-fulfilling bit, right? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 07:51
      - If Saban was cheating (and not saying he was) - atxND, 2024-09-09, 08:01
- Semi-hijack - terribletr, 2024-09-09, 04:58
  - It's worth monitoring - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:19
    - I would really like us - CK08, 2024-09-09, 08:37
- This is an excellent thought exercise - Dallasdomer, 2024-09-08, 20:43
- There will be no more random NCs - BPH, 2024-09-08, 20:05
  - D. In a playoff without Georgia. - BillyGoat, 2024-09-09, 04:11
- One title. I would be extremely happy - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:37
  - Did you follow them closely all that while post-2016? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:51
    - Yeah, pretty much every day - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:04
- This doesn't really answer your question... - domer.mq, 2024-09-08, 19:36
  - Urban Meyer's first championship - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:52
    - ND's last championship was closer to Cleopatra... - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 20:32
- Just curious - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:06
  - No, because it became clear Kelly couldn't produce great - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:16
    - Do you have an example of what the alternative looks like? - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:32
      - A bunch - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:44
        
        Fair enough. That's what I figured - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2024-09-08, 19:55
        
        Flags fly forever. - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:12
- Without hesitation. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-08, 18:43
  - Would you still stay invested? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:57
    - Well, that's changing the hypothetical a bit. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2024-09-09, 08:32
- I'd rather be good and hold onto my principals - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:27
  - Assume you get to keep your principles in either case - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:32
    - OK, but that's not the Michigan scenario - Greg, 2024-09-08, 18:45
- Title. - Ken Fowler, 2024-09-08, 18:19
  - What's long? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:34
    - That’s practically every sports team already - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:47
      - Win forever is the goal in my mind - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:51
        
        The team you’re suggesting is the Vikings - MattG, 2024-09-08, 19:42
        
        You just get driven mad by a different problem - HullieAndMikes, 2024-09-08, 18:56
        
        Sounds engaging though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 19:03
    - Probably - HumanRobot, 2024-09-08, 18:39
      - Baseball is so easy to ignore though - Mike (bart), 2024-09-08, 18:47
        
        We’ve been a middling to garbage program for 25 years - San Pedro, 2024-09-08, 21:00
        
        30 at least - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:15
        
        Well we aren't Nebraska either. - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 21:30
        
        True. We are still relevant and our coach doesn't do meth. - San Pedro, 2024-09-09, 07:22
        
        30 years from now no one will know the difference - MattG, 2024-09-08, 21:54
        
        Who are we talking about? - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:23
        
        Nobody will care about the national championships either - nedhead, 2024-09-08, 22:21
        
        Absolutely and without hesitation - MattG, 2024-09-08, 20:44
        
        I'm with you. - oviedoirish, 2024-09-09, 05:29
        
        Yeah but it's someone else's legacy, it's my hobby - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 04:12
        
        As a subway, this is my feeling in spades. - Jason93, 2024-09-09, 05:31
        
        Think about the Michigan fans - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 05:40
        
        The Michigan fans who are friends of mine... - domer.mq, 2024-09-09, 06:47
        
        Same here - CK08, 2024-09-09, 11:20
        
        Those are normals - Mike (bart), 2024-09-09, 17:08

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Right. I find this whole thing compelling because of the