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by Greg, seemingly ranch, Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 18:47 (3080 days ago) @ Mark

But, now ... I kind of like that grouchy guy and I hope he can make it through this.

Agree. I know guys like that, and they piss me off sometimes but they're generally likeable.

He's got a decent sense of humor and he has a much better understanding of ND's pain in the ass hoops now. I certainly dont think he forgot how to coach after having done it so well. I just dont think ND can find a better coach very easily and BK definitely has the potential to coach/lead ND to be an elite team, even if its not every season.

Good points. The next guy, whomever he is, will have to learn the ropes and may not deal with the institutional crap the way that politician Kelly has learned to do. And I think you're dead-on right about the up-and-down/elite-OK-elite nature of what Kelly can do, but I wonder what coach that can deal with the ND crap without his head exploding can get better (or more consistent, I guess) on-field results.

I still believe this team will be pretty awesome once they stop playing mostly freshman/redshirt freshman. If they were playing those guys because they were 5 star football freaks I would see it quite differently, but ND's frosh/redshirt freshman are in there early bc ND doesn't have the depth of an over-recruitted team like tOSU or Bama.

I wish I shared your optimism. Maybe if Swarbrick does think this year should be a mulligan, and Kelly does bring in a decent college DC, you'll be proven right. Wouldn't that be great for all of us? Here's to your vision, dude [drinks].

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The 2007 ND-UCLA game was a once in a lifetime experience, I hope

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Buckle up! - Chris, 2016-10-11, 09:40
- Also a great exchange about Kizer - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:38
  - I love this. Good to see he still has a sense of humor - Turtlecrack, 2016-10-11, 10:48
  - I think banter is with The Observer's student reporter, too. - PMan, 2016-10-11, 10:40
    - She's new with Indy Star. Just looks like a student. - KA123, 2016-10-11, 15:56
      - Thanks. - PMan, 2016-10-11, 21:44
    - And some more humor at the end - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:46
- The full quote, as usual, has a different tone - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:29
- Honestly, I dont have time for those fans. - River, 2016-10-11, 09:54
  - The focus on yelling is just people trying to find - Turtlecrack, 2016-10-11, 10:45
  - Let Kelly be Kelly - Greg, 2016-10-11, 09:58
- his whole presser has been a mea culpa - Jay, 2016-10-11, 09:46
  - That "day one" comment: - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:45
    - We have a complete dearth of senior leadership - CK08, 2016-10-11, 10:51
      - ND's 2016 team experience - Mark, 2016-10-11, 11:52
        
        I don't know about comparing to past teams - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-11, 12:16
        
        I believe Smythe has a fifth year - CW (Rakes), 2016-10-11, 12:18
        
        Looks like that's right - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-11, 12:20
  - From an interested fan/alum perspective... - PMan, 2016-10-11, 09:52
    - the character assassination is what I don't get - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:09
      - I'm just reading this thread now.... - MTIrish, 2016-10-12, 13:35
      - Keep in mind that parts of our fan base - Bill, 2016-10-12, 07:13
      - I understand it. - Buffalo, 2016-10-12, 05:51
        
        I actually can't understand Declan Sullivan as an excuse. - KGB, 2016-10-12, 06:19
        
        That whole saga is disappointing - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 12:25
        
        Exactly. - KGB, 2016-10-12, 13:55
        
        for some, the character assassination predates his hiring - Jay, 2016-10-12, 06:58
        
        And it's not really about him - Greg, 2016-10-12, 07:56
        
        There's of course the 'ND Football Ego Brigade' - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 07:43
        
        I've always been fascinated by the paradox - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-12, 08:44
        
        Eh, people do that about their country, their church - Flann, 2016-10-12, 10:04
        
        I certainly get that - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-12, 10:16
        
        Like the complaints about the administration's "greed". - KGB, 2016-10-12, 09:11
        
        I think there's a little bit of a twist with technology - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 12:00
        
        Reminds me of an Al Franken quote. - Kevin, 2016-10-12, 09:24
        
        Quick poll: do you love ND? - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 09:32
        
        I love Notre Dame like a girlfriend. - Kevin, 2016-10-12, 09:46
        
        do you have these riffs in a library in your brain - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 09:50
        
        The latter. - Kevin, 2016-10-12, 09:54
        
        +/- of the digital era - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 10:01
        
        That's a really complicated question - Greg, 2016-10-12, 09:46
        
        so, bear with me on an idea here re: ND as "special" - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 09:57
        
        I think it's special - Coach Gillespie, 2016-10-12, 13:07
        
        That's pretty well said and I agree. - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 14:21
        
        yeah, but you were "somebody" - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 13:28
        
        So you're telling me - Coach Gillespie, 2016-10-12, 13:42
        
        The magic thing is kind of self-perpetuating at this point, - LT, 2016-10-12, 12:24
        
        I think your third paragraph gets to it exactly - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 12:38
        
        I think you are conflating some things - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 12:18
        
        Mostly just a football fan now. The lack of humility and - Buck Mulligan, 2016-10-12, 12:05
        
        for my part - Jay, 2016-10-12, 11:54
        
        I have no problem with that distinction - Greg, 2016-10-12, 10:11
        
        I don't have much of an opinion about either thing - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 09:18
        
        Maybe there's a difference - Buffalo, 2016-10-12, 06:45
        
        some experience in industrial safety - Jay, 2016-10-12, 07:19
        
        a bit more - Jay, 2016-10-12, 07:28
        
        I agree that those are some of the reasons given - Jay, 2016-10-12, 06:09
      - There's been an element that's hated him from the start - Coach Gillespie, 2016-10-11, 11:31
        
        If you assume the very worst about Kelly as a person... - BillyGoat, 2016-10-12, 06:46
        
        Ill admit - Mark, 2016-10-11, 16:06
        
        Good stuff - Greg, 2016-10-11, 18:47
        
        There's a bunch of really good football players on this team - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-11, 19:48
        
        Good point, and I could see that point of view from JS. - Greg, 2016-10-12, 07:56
        
        Some people apparently want to go to prom with their coach. - KGB, 2016-10-11, 12:21
        
        Agreed, and I don't need a mea culpa from Kelly - HCE, 2016-10-11, 12:57
        
        He has a fine reputation in town. Nobody has a bad thing to - Buck Mulligan, 2016-10-11, 12:18
        
        Some day, I want to work for 7/11's marketing department - Coach Gillespie, 2016-10-11, 12:56
        
        I am not familiar with the Davie story--care to elaborate? - Jim (OFD), 2016-10-12, 06:32
        
        I don't eat at 7/11. But I would, once, if you did that. - Greg, 2016-10-11, 13:01
      - It's human nature and applies beyond sports - Flann, 2016-10-11, 10:37
        
        Especially these days - Jack, 2016-10-11, 11:28
        
        He smells like sulfur - Bill, 2016-10-11, 19:42
        
        good quote - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:55
      - The more you demonize him, the easier it is to fire him - Domer99, 2016-10-11, 10:37
      - Contrast that to Faust - Jeff (BGS), 2016-10-11, 10:36
      - In MT's defense - jcocktoaston, 2016-10-11, 10:28
        
        it's all good - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:30
        
        To qoute one of you gents from a blog past - jcocktoaston, 2016-10-11, 10:41
      - Agreed. - PMan, 2016-10-11, 10:20
        
        I don't think it has any real impact either - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:29
      - For the media at large, it's clickbait - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:20
      - Brian Kelly burned my steak last night - Greg, 2016-10-11, 10:16
  - It's easy and steers the narrative. - Chris, 2016-10-11, 09:51
- And while hunting for presser updates...found this. - Chris, 2016-10-11, 09:43
  - I like that kid more every day - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:22

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