Contrast that to Faust
by Jeff (BGS) 
, A starter home in suburban Tempe, Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 10:36 (3080 days ago) @ Jay
Faust's story was that he was a great guy, but was in over his head at ND and possibly as a college coach anywhere. But, the character assassination wasn't there. I suspect that is just a sign of the times.
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At night, the ice weasels come.
Complete thread:
- Buckle up! -
Chris,
2016-10-11, 09:40
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- Also a great exchange about Kizer -
Brendan,
2016-10-11, 10:38
- I love this. Good to see he still has a sense of humor
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Turtlecrack,
2016-10-11, 10:48
- I think banter is with The Observer's student reporter, too. -
PMan,
2016-10-11, 10:40
- She's new with Indy Star. Just looks like a student. -
KA123,
2016-10-11, 15:56
- Thanks. - PMan, 2016-10-11, 21:44
- And some more humor at the end - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:46
- She's new with Indy Star. Just looks like a student.
- I love this. Good to see he still has a sense of humor
- The full quote, as usual, has a different tone - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:29
- Honestly, I dont have time for those fans. -
River,
2016-10-11, 09:54
- The focus on yelling is just people trying to find - Turtlecrack, 2016-10-11, 10:45
- Let Kelly be Kelly - Greg, 2016-10-11, 09:58
- his whole presser has been a mea culpa -
Jay,
2016-10-11, 09:46
- That "day one" comment: -
Brendan,
2016-10-11, 10:45
- We have a complete dearth of senior leadership -
CK08,
2016-10-11, 10:51
- ND's 2016 team experience -
Mark,
2016-10-11, 11:52
- I don't know about comparing to past teams -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-11, 12:16
- I believe Smythe has a fifth year -
CW (Rakes),
2016-10-11, 12:18
- Looks like that's right - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-11, 12:20
- I believe Smythe has a fifth year -
CW (Rakes),
2016-10-11, 12:18
- I don't know about comparing to past teams -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-11, 12:16
- ND's 2016 team experience -
Mark,
2016-10-11, 11:52
- We have a complete dearth of senior leadership -
CK08,
2016-10-11, 10:51
- From an interested fan/alum perspective... -
PMan,
2016-10-11, 09:52
- the character assassination is what I don't get -
Jay,
2016-10-11, 10:09
- I'm just reading this thread now.... - MTIrish, 2016-10-12, 13:35
- Keep in mind that parts of our fan base - Bill, 2016-10-12, 07:13
- I understand it. -
Buffalo,
2016-10-12, 05:51
- I actually can't understand Declan Sullivan as an excuse. -
KGB,
2016-10-12, 06:19
- That whole saga is disappointing -
Domer99,
2016-10-12, 12:25
- Exactly. - KGB, 2016-10-12, 13:55
- for some, the character assassination predates his hiring -
Jay,
2016-10-12, 06:58
- And it's not really about him - Greg, 2016-10-12, 07:56
- There's of course the 'ND Football Ego Brigade' -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 07:43
- I've always been fascinated by the paradox -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-12, 08:44
- Eh, people do that about their country, their church -
Flann,
2016-10-12, 10:04
- I certainly get that - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-10-12, 10:16
- Like the complaints about the administration's "greed". -
KGB,
2016-10-12, 09:11
- I think there's a little bit of a twist with technology - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 12:00
- Reminds me of an Al Franken quote. -
Kevin,
2016-10-12, 09:24
- Quick poll: do you love ND? -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:32
- I love Notre Dame like a girlfriend. -
Kevin,
2016-10-12, 09:46
- do you have these riffs in a library in your brain -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:50
- The latter. -
Kevin,
2016-10-12, 09:54
- +/- of the digital era - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 10:01
- The latter. -
Kevin,
2016-10-12, 09:54
- do you have these riffs in a library in your brain -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:50
- That's a really complicated question -
Greg,
2016-10-12, 09:46
- so, bear with me on an idea here re: ND as "special" -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:57
- I think it's special -
Coach Gillespie,
2016-10-12, 13:07
- That's pretty well said and I agree. -
Domer99,
2016-10-12, 14:21
- yeah, but you were "somebody" -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 13:28
- So you're telling me - Coach Gillespie, 2016-10-12, 13:42
- That's pretty well said and I agree.
- The magic thing is kind of self-perpetuating at this point, -
LT,
2016-10-12, 12:24
- I think your third paragraph gets to it exactly - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 12:38
- I think you are conflating some things - Domer99, 2016-10-12, 12:18
- Mostly just a football fan now. The lack of humility and - Buck Mulligan, 2016-10-12, 12:05
- for my part - Jay, 2016-10-12, 11:54
- I have no problem with that distinction - Greg, 2016-10-12, 10:11
- I think it's special -
Coach Gillespie,
2016-10-12, 13:07
- so, bear with me on an idea here re: ND as "special" -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:57
- I love Notre Dame like a girlfriend. -
Kevin,
2016-10-12, 09:46
- Quick poll: do you love ND? -
Mike (bart),
2016-10-12, 09:32
- I don't have much of an opinion about either thing - Mike (bart), 2016-10-12, 09:18
- Eh, people do that about their country, their church -
Flann,
2016-10-12, 10:04
- I've always been fascinated by the paradox -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-12, 08:44
- Maybe there's a difference -
Buffalo,
2016-10-12, 06:45
- some experience in industrial safety -
Jay,
2016-10-12, 07:19
- a bit more - Jay, 2016-10-12, 07:28
- some experience in industrial safety -
Jay,
2016-10-12, 07:19
- That whole saga is disappointing -
Domer99,
2016-10-12, 12:25
- I agree that those are some of the reasons given -
Jay,
2016-10-12, 06:09
- I actually can't understand Declan Sullivan as an excuse. -
KGB,
2016-10-12, 06:19
- There's been an element that's hated him from the start -
Coach Gillespie,
2016-10-11, 11:31
- If you assume the very worst about Kelly as a person... - BillyGoat, 2016-10-12, 06:46
- Ill admit -
Mark,
2016-10-11, 16:06
- Good stuff -
Greg,
2016-10-11, 18:47
- There's a bunch of really good football players on this team -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-11, 19:48
- Good point, and I could see that point of view from JS. -
Greg,
2016-10-12, 07:56
- Good point, and I could see that point of view from JS.
- There's a bunch of really good football players on this team -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-10-11, 19:48
- Good stuff -
Greg,
2016-10-11, 18:47
- Some people apparently want to go to prom with their coach. -
KGB,
2016-10-11, 12:21
- Agreed, and I don't need a mea culpa from Kelly - HCE, 2016-10-11, 12:57
- He has a fine reputation in town. Nobody has a bad thing to -
Buck Mulligan,
2016-10-11, 12:18
- Some day, I want to work for 7/11's marketing department -
Coach Gillespie,
2016-10-11, 12:56
- I am not familiar with the Davie story--care to elaborate? -
Jim (OFD),
2016-10-12, 06:32
- I don't eat at 7/11. But I would, once, if you did that. -
Greg,
2016-10-11, 13:01
- I am not familiar with the Davie story--care to elaborate?
- Some day, I want to work for 7/11's marketing department -
Coach Gillespie,
2016-10-11, 12:56
- It's human nature and applies beyond sports -
Flann,
2016-10-11, 10:37
- Especially these days -
Jack,
2016-10-11, 11:28
- He smells like sulfur -
Bill,
2016-10-11, 19:42
- He smells like sulfur
- good quote - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:55
- Especially these days -
Jack,
2016-10-11, 11:28
- The more you demonize him, the easier it is to fire him - Domer99, 2016-10-11, 10:37
- Contrast that to Faust - Jeff (BGS), 2016-10-11, 10:36
- In MT's defense -
jcocktoaston,
2016-10-11, 10:28
- it's all good -
Jay,
2016-10-11, 10:30
- To qoute one of you gents from a blog past - jcocktoaston, 2016-10-11, 10:41
- it's all good -
Jay,
2016-10-11, 10:30
- Agreed. -
PMan,
2016-10-11, 10:20
- I don't think it has any real impact either - Jay, 2016-10-11, 10:29
- For the media at large, it's clickbait - Brendan, 2016-10-11, 10:20
- Brian Kelly burned my steak last night - Greg, 2016-10-11, 10:16
- the character assassination is what I don't get -
Jay,
2016-10-11, 10:09
- It's easy and steers the narrative. -
Chris,
2016-10-11, 09:51
- That "day one" comment: -
Brendan,
2016-10-11, 10:45
- And while hunting for presser updates...found this. -
Chris,
2016-10-11, 09:43
- I like that kid more every day -
Brendan,
2016-10-11, 10:22
- I like that kid more every day
- Also a great exchange about Kizer -
Brendan,
2016-10-11, 10:38