I think the very beginning of the turnaround was when they
hired Coach Thomas. Noel was a nice enough guy and he loved ND, but Jesus he had no idea about golf. At least Thomas knew golf. That and they started scheduling real tournaments. I think they went to Akron the year after I left and Scotland not too long after.
We had a couple of meetings with Boulac and Conboy (who I think is retiring BTW) about how bad it was. They agreed but just said they could not change all the programs at once.
I had a few decent offers, VA offered me a 1/2 schollie (they had just built Birdwood), UNC offered me walk on status with a chance to earn a schollie (this is when they were pretty damn good Davis and Mark Love were on the team), West Point was talking to me, Yale, and a few ACC/SEC teams expressed light interest (especially GATech and UGA).
I went to ND, won the ND Open (IIRC) beat the fuck out of the guy next in line. But the guy next in line (who became a wonderful friend) was chosen to play over me because the other guy was a junior.
Complete BS. Then they fucked up my eligibility for a red shirt by making play in the last match of Frosh year - which I ended up playing okay in.
To my extreme discredit, I was like fuck this and just partied. I should have either transferred or busted my ass. One kid who is still a friend did transfer. He played in a couple of USOpens during his career.
My point is, I could have gone many places but I loved ND. Kinda the Kubinski story but I was not as good as that kid.
Also, on the tournaments, I knew the guys in Statesboro who ran the Schenkel. In its day a huge tournament and still pretty big. I asked if they would let us in and they said of course Doug its ND. "But we suck." We don't care you are in if you want. The ND name carried weight.
Noel would not play - he liked saying we won the MAC and had a great record. Christ!
Just a little effort and all of our teams are decent by default. Maybe not anymore but back in the day it would have been easy.
Complete thread:
- The current state of the athletic department -
okerland,
2026-04-21, 09:04
- ???? No mention of #1 ranked Men's Lacrosse ????
-
Domer99,
2026-04-21, 12:11
- Fencing is doing alright...
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NDJuban,
2026-04-21, 12:58
- Fencing is doing alright...
- I do. Men's golf is on the edge of top 25. -
Grantland,
2026-04-21, 10:46
- You mean except Stanford and UCLA's football teams
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Jack,
2026-04-21, 15:02
- fair. :)
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Grantland,
2026-04-22, 06:47
- fair. :)
- What years were you on the ND team? -
PuppyBowl,
2026-04-21, 12:26
- I think the very beginning of the turnaround was when they -
Grantland,
2026-04-22, 06:34
- That’s pretty interesting - PuppyBowl, 2026-04-22, 08:15
- Noel's last three years and Coach Thomas's first. - Grantland, 2026-04-22, 06:14
- Wild story. - KGB, 2026-04-21, 13:45
- Who is Jimmy Dunne? -
San Pedro,
2026-04-21, 13:05
- Give him a quick Google search -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 13:30
- I saw him on TV at the end of this year's Masters. -
Grantland,
2026-04-22, 06:17
- I’ll push back on the Seminole sentiment -
PuppyBowl,
2026-04-22, 08:14
- You are probably right and if you ever need a fourth at - Grantland, 2026-04-22, 08:52
- I’ll push back on the Seminole sentiment -
PuppyBowl,
2026-04-22, 08:14
- Jimmy ended up being the fall guy in the LIV-PGA break up -
Domer99,
2026-04-21, 17:56
- You're right, which was ridiculous - PuppyBowl, 2026-04-21, 18:52
- Thanks!
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San Pedro,
2026-04-21, 17:37
- Also he's class of '78, and Dunne Hall is named after him
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Jack,
2026-04-21, 15:05
- I saw him on TV at the end of this year's Masters. -
Grantland,
2026-04-22, 06:17
- Give him a quick Google search -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 13:30
- I think the very beginning of the turnaround was when they -
Grantland,
2026-04-22, 06:34
- There are some that should absolutely be better -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 12:00
- But golf is kinda like basketball. Get 2-3 really good kids - Grantland, 2026-04-22, 07:00
- Hockey needs a year or two. -
KGB,
2026-04-21, 12:48
- Completely agree - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-04-21, 12:52
- re: baseball - Jay, 2026-04-21, 12:09
- You mean except Stanford and UCLA's football teams
- Also pretty worried about Pete as wartime consigliere -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 09:12
- Agreed. -
beattherush,
2026-04-21, 13:09
- People who know more about these things - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-04-21, 13:32
- I most worried about that - HumanRobot, 2026-04-21, 12:52
- pretty worried about future scheduling -
Jay,
2026-04-21, 09:42
- TV Benefits is the carrot - GloveND, 2026-04-22, 08:14
- I really wouldn't WANT this to happen - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-04-21, 10:41
- I'd be disappointed if he couldn't find levers to pull. -
KGB,
2026-04-21, 10:02
- Disappointed —> enraged -
beattherush,
2026-04-21, 13:13
- Nothing has happened yet. -
KGB,
2026-04-21, 13:40
- Right? -
Domer99,
2026-04-21, 19:35
- Don't at all think he wants out of those games -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 19:40
- Oh, I get it -
Domer99,
2026-04-22, 06:44
- My concern is competence, not alignment -
beattherush,
2026-04-22, 07:56
- I agree that Swarbrick would have prepared for the 2025 - Domer99, 2026-04-22, 08:15
- I look forward -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-22, 07:53
- Like he did with USC? -
beattherush,
2026-04-22, 07:57
- I'm sure Texas et al -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-22, 08:27
- If they're going to cancel - KGB, 2026-04-22, 08:51
- I'm sure Texas et al -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-22, 08:27
- Like he did with USC? -
beattherush,
2026-04-22, 07:57
- My concern is competence, not alignment -
beattherush,
2026-04-22, 07:56
- Oh, I get it -
Domer99,
2026-04-22, 06:44
- Don't at all think he wants out of those games -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2026-04-21, 19:40
- Right? -
Domer99,
2026-04-21, 19:35
- Nothing has happened yet. -
KGB,
2026-04-21, 13:40
- I don't think the B1G is worried about ND joining the SEC - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-21, 10:35
- Disappointed —> enraged -
beattherush,
2026-04-21, 13:13
- Agreed. -
beattherush,
2026-04-21, 13:09
- Things seems to be pretty stable - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-21, 09:10
- how are the soccer programs?
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Jay,
2026-04-21, 09:07
- Women #2, men are right at .500
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Jeff (BGS),
2026-04-21, 09:11
- The women have struggled a bit in postseason play. -
San Pedro,
2026-04-21, 09:36
- They got goalie'd by OSU. - Chris, 2026-04-21, 09:38
- The women have struggled a bit in postseason play. -
San Pedro,
2026-04-21, 09:36
- Women #2, men are right at .500
- ???? No mention of #1 ranked Men's Lacrosse ????