He's an ass and not an elite coach
but he's still a pretty good coach. I find this decision, on the face of it, insane on the part of PSU and think there has to be something else going on.
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domer.mq,
2025-10-12, 11:04 ![[*]](themes/default/images/complete_thread.png "Open whole thread")
- Has anyone else heard that Urban Meyer is sniffing around? -
omahadomer,
2025-10-13, 10:18
- He's the only person who makes this make sense. -
nedhead,
2025-10-13, 18:18
- Saw a rumor about Michigan St. and him. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2025-10-13, 10:41
- He's the only person who makes this make sense.
- JF is a peter-principle coach, yet firing him now was stupid -
KelleyCook,
2025-10-12, 18:31
- Fleck’s a good idea actually. -
beattherush,
2025-10-13, 05:51
- Fleck does seems like a decent fit -
Regular Joseph,
2025-10-13, 06:03
- Fleck has turned out to be pretty average -
Jay,
2025-10-13, 08:00
- He's decidedly mid. -
KGB,
2025-10-13, 08:46
- I'll post this every time this fraud's name comes up. - Chris, 2025-10-13, 09:17
- He's decidedly mid. -
KGB,
2025-10-13, 08:46
- He already has the sweater and tie. -
cdawg,
2025-10-13, 07:15
- Fleck has turned out to be pretty average -
Jay,
2025-10-13, 08:00
- Fleck does seems like a decent fit -
Regular Joseph,
2025-10-13, 06:03
- I don't get the value in doing it now -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-12, 20:24
- Ton of rumors that Adidas was behind this move. $300 million -
cdawg,
2025-10-13, 07:19
- I don't understand why Adidas cares? -
CK08,
2025-10-13, 08:43
- It is a rumor. Doesn't make much sense when you flesh out - cdawg, 2025-10-13, 08:50
- I was wondering... - beattherush, 2025-10-13, 08:45
- If true, it should give us all pause -
HCE,
2025-10-13, 07:50
- It gets worse - beattherush, 2025-10-13, 08:42
- Hey. I'm with you. This Big whatever development with VC $ -
cdawg,
2025-10-13, 08:36
- I'm at Radford, and my wife teaches at VT - HCE, 2025-10-13, 09:21
- T-Minus 5 years until a Penn State debt crisis -
CK08,
2025-10-13, 08:46
- Too B1G to fail? -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-13, 08:47
- Too B1G to fail?
- I don't understand why Adidas cares? -
CK08,
2025-10-13, 08:43
- Me neither. -
beattherush,
2025-10-13, 05:42
- They can'y hire Rhule mid-season, can they? -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-13, 06:51
- A pocket deal would make more sense - beattherush, 2025-10-13, 08:47
- Would anyone notice? -
nedhead,
2025-10-13, 08:36
- They can'y hire Rhule mid-season, can they? -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-13, 06:51
- Ton of rumors that Adidas was behind this move. $300 million -
cdawg,
2025-10-13, 07:19
- The irony for me is that... -
bobbywal,
2025-10-12, 18:46
- What would it take to get Cignetti? -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 18:49
- I don’t think they can get Cignetti -
beattherush,
2025-10-13, 05:38
- I think it shows how silly this is. - nedhead, 2025-10-13, 06:02
- I don’t think they can get Cignetti -
beattherush,
2025-10-13, 05:38
- What would it take to get Cignetti? -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 18:49
- Fleck’s a good idea actually. -
beattherush,
2025-10-13, 05:51
- has to be related -
Jay,
2025-10-12, 18:19
- Guffaw -
BPH,
2025-10-13, 09:08
- The H is for honeypot. -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 18:29
- It would actually be a weird karmic circle - bobbywal, 2025-10-12, 19:47
- Guffaw
- This could be their Solich moment -- -
omahadomer,
2025-10-12, 14:00
- They’re going to spend $100m to replace Franklin with Ruhle -
HumanRobot,
2025-10-12, 17:25
- Rhule is 17-14 at Nebraska -- -
omahadomer,
2025-10-12, 19:20
- turns out Ruhle has a comically low buyout -
HumanRobot,
2025-10-13, 06:23
- I read that -- -
omahadomer,
2025-10-13, 10:17
- Yes - IrishGuard, 2025-10-13, 10:35
- I read that -- -
omahadomer,
2025-10-13, 10:17
- A subtle econ point in your post that most miss - KelleyCook, 2025-10-12, 19:45
- turns out Ruhle has a comically low buyout -
HumanRobot,
2025-10-13, 06:23
- Are they going to force him to keep the coordinators? - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2025-10-12, 17:38
- Rhule is 17-14 at Nebraska -- -
omahadomer,
2025-10-12, 19:20
- It's totally crazy. -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 16:47
- He's an ass and not an elite coach -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2025-10-12, 17:10
- They (probably correctly) determined he wasn't the guy -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2025-10-12, 17:37
- Do not underestimate the hubris - bobbywal, 2025-10-12, 18:14
- He’s probably sub-Kelly, but not by much -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-12, 17:29
- That's the other question. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2025-10-12, 17:35
- The "hot wives" comment always bothered me -
Busco21,
2025-10-12, 17:19
- I think ND 2016 is comparable. -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 17:27
- This is like firing Kelly in 2017 -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 17:55
- They're probably looking at the Cignetti model - hobbs, 2025-10-12, 18:00
- This is like firing Kelly in 2017 -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 17:55
- It always bothered me - bobbywal, 2025-10-12, 17:25
- I think ND 2016 is comparable. -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 17:27
- They (probably correctly) determined he wasn't the guy -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2025-10-12, 17:37
- He's an ass and not an elite coach -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2025-10-12, 17:10
- An on brand and apt comment! -
Dallasdomer,
2025-10-12, 15:35
- They’re going to spend $100m to replace Franklin with Ruhle
- Didn’t take long for Freeman’s name to be voiced -
River,
2025-10-12, 13:59
- The mere notion is hilarious -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 14:48
- Kirby Smart -
River,
2025-10-12, 15:05
- That was my next guess -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 15:08
- I am shocked Saban & Belichick haven’t been mentioned. -
River,
2025-10-12, 15:43
- Or Gruden! -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 16:23
- He was mentioned by some dude on Sirius -
CK08,
2025-10-12, 17:38
- He was mentioned by some dude on Sirius
- Or Gruden! -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 16:23
- I am shocked Saban & Belichick haven’t been mentioned.
- That was my next guess
- Kirby Smart
- I'm confident that Freeman wouldn't take that job -- - omahadomer, 2025-10-12, 14:04
- He's a PSU alum - BPH, 2025-10-12, 14:03
- The mere notion is hilarious -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 14:48
- What if -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 13:53
- Lots of PSU rumors about Adidas - beattherush, 2025-10-12, 14:14
- This is really bad news for Billy Napier -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 12:02
- Honestly, Franklin makes a lot of sense for UF. -
Bingo,
2025-10-12, 15:38
- Not UF. Franklin would be perfect at UNC - hobbs, 2025-10-12, 16:15
- He would tank in the SEC - Jeff (BGS), 2025-10-12, 15:46
- I can't believe Wisconsin didn't move first. -
domer.mq,
2025-10-12, 12:43
- Maybe they’ll fire Fickell and hire Franklin -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 13:50
- I don't view Wisky as in that tier - hobbs, 2025-10-12, 12:59
- Maybe they’ll fire Fickell and hire Franklin
- Honestly, Franklin makes a lot of sense for UF. -
Bingo,
2025-10-12, 15:38
- They will regret this -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 12:00
- Hoping for a Nebraskaning. -
domer.mq,
2025-10-12, 12:44
- The last 15 years of Joe Pa were already Nebraskaesque -
Romulox,
2025-10-12, 13:08
- I forgot about this... - domer.mq, 2025-10-12, 15:37
- The last 15 years of Joe Pa were already Nebraskaesque
- Cig is the hot name -
HumanRobot,
2025-10-12, 12:10
- Wisconsin would be smart to hire Diaz. -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 13:52
- Wisconsin would be smart to hire Diaz.
- They could end up getting Penn State grad Matt Rhule -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 12:04
- Not an upgrade -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 13:52
- We don't think it's an upgrade - BPH, 2025-10-12, 14:01
- Not an upgrade -
beattherush,
2025-10-12, 13:52
- Hoping for a Nebraskaning. -
domer.mq,
2025-10-12, 12:44
- hairline joke karma kicking in - Jay, 2025-10-12, 11:55
- They did join the B1G about the same time as Nebraska -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-12, 11:50
- Huh??? -
Irish96,
2025-10-12, 12:04
- Holy crap, you are right. - Jeff (BGS), 2025-10-12, 12:11
- Huh???
- His replacement is going to make runs at -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 11:48
- Fran Brown who will probably finish 5-7? -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 12:34
- FWIW, as I'm sure you know they were 3-1 -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 12:56
- Regardless of what perhaps they should do -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 13:22
- Agreed. -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 13:27
- Agreed.
- Regardless of what perhaps they should do -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 13:22
- FWIW, as I'm sure you know they were 3-1 -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 12:56
- Fran Brown who will probably finish 5-7? -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 12:34
- Rhule already being linked to the job -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 11:46
- It has been a slow climb for Rhule -- - omahadomer, 2025-10-12, 16:56
- womp womp -
KGB,
2025-10-12, 11:23
- +14 -
Chris,
2025-10-12, 11:42
- +14
- Life comes at you fast - HumanRobot, 2025-10-12, 11:18
- Holy shit -
BPH,
2025-10-12, 11:09
- Cignetti ain’t going anywhere -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 12:15
- $72m guaranteed -
HumanRobot,
2025-10-12, 12:33
- $72m guaranteed
- You can't convince me that in 2025 it's -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2025-10-12, 11:36
- Cignetti is 65. He's grabbing the bag NOW -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 11:53
- What are you talking about? -
KGB,
2025-10-12, 13:45
- A. Didn't really remember his IU extension - hobbs, 2025-10-12, 15:13
- At what point does a raise not matter? -
Coach Gillespie,
2025-10-12, 13:38
- And he’s making almost as much as Franklin was -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 13:52
- And he’s making almost as much as Franklin was
- What are you talking about? -
KGB,
2025-10-12, 13:45
- Cignetti is 65. He's grabbing the bag NOW -
hobbs,
2025-10-12, 11:53
- For $15 mil, will we see mid-season coaching changes? - Mark, 2025-10-12, 11:13
- Cignetti ain’t going anywhere -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 12:15
- Can we name a more dramatic fall from grace? -
Pete,
2025-10-12, 11:09
- got to be something happening behind the scenes -
Jay,
2025-10-12, 11:39
- Wonder if Seider knew “something?” - Dallasdomer, 2025-10-12, 13:04
- with ears -
KelleyCook,
2025-10-12, 12:33
- got to be something happening behind the scenes -
Jay,
2025-10-12, 11:39
- Didn’t see that one coming. -
NDinVA,
2025-10-12, 11:08
- If ND doesnt make the playoff … how much slack would you/ND -
Mark,
2025-10-12, 11:10
- Depends on the losses - CFFdomer, 2025-10-12, 19:55
- Tough crowd -
Jeff (BGS),
2025-10-12, 18:06
- if ND crapped out and lost out this year, -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 18:20
- I'd proclaim this is statistically impossible… - KelleyCook, 2025-10-12, 18:47
- if ND crapped out and lost out this year, -
nedhead,
2025-10-12, 18:20
- PSU isn't just losing. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2025-10-12, 11:38
- They're not going to tank, though - BPH, 2025-10-12, 11:11
- If ND doesnt make the playoff … how much slack would you/ND -
Mark,
2025-10-12, 11:10
- Incredible turn of events -
Jack,
2025-10-12, 11:07
- $49 million plus, per ESPN -
HCE,
2025-10-12, 11:48
- $49 million plus, per ESPN
- Has anyone else heard that Urban Meyer is sniffing around?