That's an interesting point re: unequal power relationships.
And it creates the potential for a serious accident when the people in your operation who are at the greatest risk of bodily harm are also the ones on the lowest rung of the food chain. It should be explicitly spelled out to everyone in that position that they have the authority to come out of that lift if they feel that the conditions are unsafe for whatever reason. Such rights may have been implicitly understood as part of ND's operational procedures, but that's not enough. A lot of kids in that situation might be inclined to feel that coming out of the lift not only represents a failure to do the job required but that they're letting the football team down, as well. And that's not fair at all, although I doubt that ND is alone in the lack of clear communication on that front.
Complete thread:
- I'm interested in confirming or refuting (edit) -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 09:24
- Read the section in "Outliers" about airplane crashes -
Dylan,
2011-04-18, 10:39
- That's an interesting point re: unequal power relationships. -
KGB,
2011-04-18, 14:15
- Oh, ND is not at all unique in that regard -
Dylan,
2011-04-18, 14:21
- But, I mean, they're still going to fire someone, right?
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KGB,
2011-04-18, 15:08
- But, I mean, they're still going to fire someone, right?
- some companies use "Stop Work" cards - Jay, 2011-04-18, 14:18
- Oh, ND is not at all unique in that regard -
Dylan,
2011-04-18, 14:21
- And it could have been even more out-of-whack in football -
Kevin,
2011-04-18, 11:10
- I guess it's simpler to believe someone ordered a Code Red -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 11:25
- That hasn't stopped certain blogs -
Chris (HCC),
2011-04-18, 21:24
- do you have a link to the With Leather post?
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Jay,
2011-04-19, 07:49
- Here ya go - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-19, 08:30
- do you have a link to the With Leather post?
- That hasn't stopped certain blogs -
Chris (HCC),
2011-04-18, 21:24
- I guess it's simpler to believe someone ordered a Code Red -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 11:25
- That's an interesting point re: unequal power relationships. -
KGB,
2011-04-18, 14:15
- Check out The Checklist Manifesto -
Jeff (BGS),
2011-04-18, 10:22
- yep - Jay, 2011-04-18, 10:34
- There's one thing I'll definitely refute... -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 09:43
- Your first linked article -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:14
- Sure, but... -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:26
- Carrying this over from another front. -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:29
- I think a real issue is that a decision was left up to... -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:31
- It wasn't an informed delegation. -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:33
- I'm not arguing that it was. -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:38
- Well, if you were anywhere in the upper midwest that day... -
KGB,
2011-04-18, 10:52
- John Walters tweeted earlier... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:56
- Well, if you were anywhere in the upper midwest that day... -
KGB,
2011-04-18, 10:52
- I'm not arguing that it was. -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:38
- It wasn't an informed delegation. -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:33
- I think a real issue is that a decision was left up to... -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:31
- Carrying this over from another front. -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:29
- Sure, but... -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:26
- Collins, Russ, and Klunder all checked the wind -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 09:57
- I check weather.com, and find their "alerts" easily ignored -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:11
- Would you ignore a high wind warning -
Kevin,
2011-04-18, 10:23
- Now, no. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:31
- If I'm aware of it, probably not. -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:28
- I've made the same mistakes, too -
HumanRobot,
2011-04-18, 11:17
- I had an issue with my alignment a few months ago. - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 11:22
- I've made the same mistakes, too -
HumanRobot,
2011-04-18, 11:17
- Would you ignore a high wind warning -
Kevin,
2011-04-18, 10:23
- I check weather.com, and find their "alerts" easily ignored -
domer.mq,
2011-04-18, 10:11
- Have I ever mentioned how much I hate headline writers? - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-18, 09:49
- Your first linked article -
JRT,
2011-04-18, 10:14
- Would this qualify as the Swiss Cheese Model? -
CW (Rakes),
2011-04-18, 09:30
- could be -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 09:38
- if there was a single point of failure... - HumanRobot, 2011-04-18, 10:19
- could be -
Jay,
2011-04-18, 09:38
- Read the section in "Outliers" about airplane crashes -
Dylan,
2011-04-18, 10:39