yep

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:34 (5547 days ago) @ Jeff (BGS)
edited by Jay, Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:34

and the example in my top post is in a heavy industry where accidents are fairly common despite a long history and strong culture of safety and compliance. It's the nature of that business.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say some kind of electric lift has been used at ND for 40+ years. However, this is obviously the first fatality to occur. It is sad, but not surprising for a place with comparatively few workplace accidents, that ND was lax on procedures and training protocols.

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I'm interested in confirming or refuting (edit) - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:24
- Read the section in "Outliers" about airplane crashes - Dylan, 2011-04-18, 10:39
  - That's an interesting point re: unequal power relationships. - KGB, 2011-04-18, 14:15
    - Oh, ND is not at all unique in that regard - Dylan, 2011-04-18, 14:21
      - But, I mean, they're still going to fire someone, right? - KGB, 2011-04-18, 15:08
    - some companies use "Stop Work" cards - Jay, 2011-04-18, 14:18
  - And it could have been even more out-of-whack in football - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 11:10
    - I guess it's simpler to believe someone ordered a Code Red - Jay, 2011-04-18, 11:25
      - That hasn't stopped certain blogs - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-18, 21:24
        
        do you have a link to the With Leather post? - Jay, 2011-04-19, 07:49
        
        Here ya go - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-19, 08:30
- Check out The Checklist Manifesto - Jeff (BGS), 2011-04-18, 10:22
  - yep - Jay, 2011-04-18, 10:34
- There's one thing I'll definitely refute... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 09:43
  - Your first linked article - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:14
    - Sure, but... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:26
      - Carrying this over from another front. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:29
        
        I think a real issue is that a decision was left up to... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:31
        
        It wasn't an informed delegation. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:33
        
        I'm not arguing that it was. - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:38
        
        Well, if you were anywhere in the upper midwest that day... - KGB, 2011-04-18, 10:52
        
        John Walters tweeted earlier... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:56
  - Collins, Russ, and Klunder all checked the wind - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:57
    - I check weather.com, and find their "alerts" easily ignored - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:11
      - Would you ignore a high wind warning - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 10:23
        
        Now, no. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:31
        
        If I'm aware of it, probably not. - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:28
        
        I've made the same mistakes, too - HumanRobot, 2011-04-18, 11:17
        
        I had an issue with my alignment a few months ago. - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 11:22
  - Have I ever mentioned how much I hate headline writers? - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-18, 09:49
- Would this qualify as the Swiss Cheese Model? - CW (Rakes), 2011-04-18, 09:30
  - could be - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:38
    - if there was a single point of failure... - HumanRobot, 2011-04-18, 10:19

the Polo Grounds

yep