And it could have been even more out-of-whack in football

by Kevin , Monday, April 18, 2011, 11:10 (5547 days ago) @ Dylan

because Brian Kelly is hardly the chief safety officer. The guys who should be serving that role likely deferred to him on matters he wasn't equipped to and didn't intend to handle. I doubt the lifts occurred to the coaches much before Elston yelled to bring them down. That's not an accusation -- the coaches have 50 different things to manage in practices. The people they thought were handling discrete peripheral issues may not have been.

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I'm interested in confirming or refuting (edit) - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:24
- Read the section in "Outliers" about airplane crashes - Dylan, 2011-04-18, 10:39
  - That's an interesting point re: unequal power relationships. - KGB, 2011-04-18, 14:15
    - Oh, ND is not at all unique in that regard - Dylan, 2011-04-18, 14:21
      - But, I mean, they're still going to fire someone, right? - KGB, 2011-04-18, 15:08
    - some companies use "Stop Work" cards - Jay, 2011-04-18, 14:18
  - And it could have been even more out-of-whack in football - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 11:10
    - I guess it's simpler to believe someone ordered a Code Red - Jay, 2011-04-18, 11:25
      - That hasn't stopped certain blogs - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-18, 21:24
        
        do you have a link to the With Leather post? - Jay, 2011-04-19, 07:49
        
        Here ya go - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-19, 08:30
- Check out The Checklist Manifesto - Jeff (BGS), 2011-04-18, 10:22
  - yep - Jay, 2011-04-18, 10:34
- There's one thing I'll definitely refute... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 09:43
  - Your first linked article - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:14
    - Sure, but... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:26
      - Carrying this over from another front. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:29
        
        I think a real issue is that a decision was left up to... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:31
        
        It wasn't an informed delegation. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:33
        
        I'm not arguing that it was. - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:38
        
        Well, if you were anywhere in the upper midwest that day... - KGB, 2011-04-18, 10:52
        
        John Walters tweeted earlier... - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:56
  - Collins, Russ, and Klunder all checked the wind - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:57
    - I check weather.com, and find their "alerts" easily ignored - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:11
      - Would you ignore a high wind warning - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 10:23
        
        Now, no. - JRT, 2011-04-18, 10:31
        
        If I'm aware of it, probably not. - domer.mq, 2011-04-18, 10:28
        
        I've made the same mistakes, too - HumanRobot, 2011-04-18, 11:17
        
        I had an issue with my alignment a few months ago. - Kevin, 2011-04-18, 11:22
  - Have I ever mentioned how much I hate headline writers? - Chris (HCC), 2011-04-18, 09:49
- Would this qualify as the Swiss Cheese Model? - CW (Rakes), 2011-04-18, 09:30
  - could be - Jay, 2011-04-18, 09:38
    - if there was a single point of failure... - HumanRobot, 2011-04-18, 10:19

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And it could have been even more out-of-whack in football