as a scientist, you have to understand

by HumanRobot , Cybertron, Friday, January 30, 2015, 09:03 (3396 days ago) @ Bryan (IrishCavan)

That science is actually just another belief. It's a belief in the ability of humans to analyze and comprehend the world and universe.

There's a lot of dangerous bits of science and statistics that do get misapplied (i.e. 95% confidence) that science itself is deserving of skepticism. As with climatology, the science is often a lot less settled than we really think.

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OT/SNFW: Love letters to Richard Dawkins (The Selfish Gene) - Jeff (BGS), 2015-01-30, 06:54
- "Your feigned intelligence is nothing more that the fart of - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 14:12
- SNFW? Yoda, is that you? - irishvol, 2015-01-30, 08:56
  - Revealed my poor typing you have - Jeff (BGS), 2015-01-30, 09:32
    - Keep must you left. - BillyGoat, 2015-01-30, 09:37
- He's still just mad about that honey - Jim (fisherj08), 2015-01-30, 07:55
- Watching him pronounce biotch is quite amusing. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2015-01-30, 07:50
  - I'm going to post and run - Supe, 2015-01-30, 09:00
    - No offense, but what insight does your 200/300 level - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 09:33
      - The randomess factor doesn't come close to explaining DNA - KelleyCook, 2015-01-30, 10:40
        
        To be fair... - piyachi, 2015-01-30, 11:25
        
        This is "the god of the gaps" - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 10:54
        
        Roger's Version - Jeff (BGS), 2015-01-30, 15:16
        
        The Philip Roth of Christians. - Buck Mulligan, 2015-01-31, 09:40
        
        "No" and other deep thoughts - KelleyCook, 2015-01-30, 12:28
        
        I thought this was all explained in 2001 - Jay, 2015-01-30, 10:53
    - I agree with you - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:05
      - Questioning it on grounds internal to science - IrishGuard, 2015-01-30, 09:34
  - Including Dave Pasch - Jack, 2015-01-30, 08:08
  - That's very human, I think. - Slainte Joe, 2015-01-30, 08:05
    - It was the high percentage that surprised me. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2015-01-30, 08:11
      - I'd love to see the demographic breakdown. - Slainte Joe, 2015-01-30, 08:36
        
        Protestants are roughly half the US population - Jack, 2015-01-30, 08:55
        
        I looked here. - Slainte Joe, 2015-01-30, 09:02
        
        I think you could add the historically black churches to - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:25
        
        Sure. I think that's correct. - Slainte Joe, 2015-01-30, 10:07
      - what's meant by "Don't believe in evolution"? - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 08:33
        
        Robot, this is exactly what I was thinking. - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 09:30
        
        Based on what Jay wrote, the question might be confusing - Jeff (BGS), 2015-01-30, 08:43
        
        Here's the Pew Study. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2015-01-30, 08:51
        
        as a scientist, you have to understand - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:03
        
        Where any of you present - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 10:03
        
        I was cheering every word of this post. Thank you! - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:39
        
        the 'Science says' folks drive me nuts - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:40
        
        Scientism is a pseudo-religion. - Slainte Joe, 2015-01-30, 10:08
        
        brilliant - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 10:10
        
        This is very "meta" - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 09:45
        
        interesting discusion on NPR - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 12:45
        
        What do you mean by modern? - jcocktoaston, 2015-01-30, 11:06
        
        Post-Einstein - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 11:13
        
        I readily admit to being out of my depth here - jcocktoaston, 2015-01-30, 11:33
        
        My(limited) understanding is that while stuff like - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 11:53
        
        Koo. Thanks. - jcocktoaston, 2015-01-30, 11:58
        
        I think that's still unknown - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 11:45
        
        Help me out a little more please - jcocktoaston, 2015-01-30, 11:51
        
        It'd mean that the science on Higgs boson is incomplete - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 12:08
        
        Thanks. And on that note - jcocktoaston, 2015-01-30, 12:17
        
        Since science is a methodology of falsification - IrishGuard, 2015-01-30, 09:58
        
        There are theories and there are theories - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:52
        
        "Theory" has a specific meaning - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 09:54
        
        How about a theory of the effects of man-made climate change - Jack, 2015-01-30, 15:39
        
        Yup, and if any are scientists - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:43
        
        I wanted to punch deGrasse Tyson through my TV - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:46
        
        Evolution is not a fact? - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 09:52
        
        Not sure where that comes from - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 10:05
        
        I think he was referring to evolution specifically - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 10:46
        
        perhaps I misrecall then - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 10:54
        
        I wanted to multiple times - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:47
        
        I'm a little confused by your first sentence - HullieAndMikes, 2015-01-30, 09:09
        
        let's put it this way - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:24
        
        In comic form... - bpeters07, 2015-01-30, 10:57
        
        I mean, yeah, like all endeavors of mankind - HullieAndMikes, 2015-01-30, 10:08
        
        Who set up the science and the related rules? - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 09:38
        
        the Devil - Jay, 2015-01-30, 10:19
        
        That explains a shit ton. - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 10:46
        
        What does this mean? - Dylan, 2015-01-30, 09:37
        
        the former - HumanRobot, 2015-01-30, 09:38
        
        Believe humans were created in their current state... - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2015-01-30, 08:40
    - seems to be an American phenomenon - Jay, 2015-01-30, 08:10
      - We're not very familiar with the concept of "No" - Mike (bart), 2015-01-30, 08:21
      - Americans are the most religious people on the planet... - PMan, 2015-01-30, 08:21
        
        Saudis and Iranians might take issue with that - Jack, 2015-01-30, 08:32
        
        Catholic creationists... - bpeters07, 2015-01-30, 09:06
        
        Catholics can't just believe the BB, they can theorize it! - Savage, 2015-01-30, 09:55
        
        Not surprising to me - Jack, 2015-01-30, 09:30
        
        I hope that ND stays that way - bpeters07, 2015-01-30, 16:45
        
        Do you know this Song?: - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 14:26
        
        More importantly, most have no idea of the reason for the - Grantland, 2015-01-30, 13:42
      - That answers my question above - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2015-01-30, 08:20
        
        I think a lot of it could be demographic as well (EDIT) - Mike (bart), 2015-01-30, 08:25
        
        I'd like to know what the percentage is by region of the US - Jack, 2015-01-30, 08:57
      - Hey, at least we're ahead of Turkey. - Jack, 2015-01-30, 08:14

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