I tend to agree.

by Slainte Joe , Raleigh, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 12:50 (2552 days ago) @ BillyGoat

Trump certainly fails the test, mostly due to his abhorrent personal qualities.

I wouldn't exclude Obama or Pence.

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Talk about ND Graduate walk out? or enough politics for now? - Grantland, 2017-05-22, 08:56
- I'm at my son's preschool graduation right now - Jeff (BGS), 2017-05-23, 14:52
- Protest is good and Pence is irredeemably awful. - fightinamish, 2017-05-22, 15:53
  - Now hold on a second - CW (Rakes), 2017-05-23, 11:20
- I'd say people have every right to do it - Greg, 2017-05-22, 15:06
  - Don't think so - JN, 2017-05-23, 08:27
    - A lot of hypocrisy here in the echo chamber - scriptcomesfirst, 2017-05-24, 11:00
      - Obama was the president; Pence is not - JN, 2017-05-25, 11:09
      - I don't remember the discussion at that time. - KGB, 2017-05-24, 12:09
        
        I agree with all of that - scriptcomesfirst, 2017-05-25, 04:37
      - I thought it was fine for Pence to speak - Jay, 2017-05-24, 11:18
        
        Easy for you to say, Jay - scriptcomesfirst, 2017-05-25, 04:36
        
        I might take exception... - PMan, 2017-05-25, 11:15
        
        I agree that both are fine. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-24, 12:41
        
        I signed that (excellent) letter that was going around - Jay, 2017-05-24, 13:24
        
        I disagree with people like Milo Y. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2017-05-25, 08:28
        
        Agree, but there's a 1st Amendment issue at public schools - HCE, 2017-05-25, 10:34
        
        My understanding is that the courts have not been consistent - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2017-05-25, 10:51
        
        It's also important to note - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-25, 08:32
        
        Right after he outed/mocked a trans student at UW-Mil - HullieAndMikes, 2017-05-25, 08:41
        
        I thought the ND prof's argument... - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-25, 09:21
        
        Yes. - Angel, 2017-05-25, 07:15
        
        The honorary degree complicates matters - HCE, 2017-05-24, 16:34
        
        d'accord - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-24, 13:28
        
        It's a paradox. - Pat (Moco), 2017-05-24, 11:34
        
        Life! - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 11:39
        
        Wait a second. Is "snowflakes" some kind of - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 11:38
        
        Snowflakes - CW (Rakes), 2017-05-24, 11:46
        
        HA: - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 13:07
        
        he should meet some young people - Jay, 2017-05-24, 13:09
        
        OK, but I do find... - Greg, 2017-05-24, 11:48
        
        there's a lot of misinformation around "safe spaces" - Jay, 2017-05-24, 11:51
        
        Love to - Greg, 2017-05-24, 12:00
    - There are different ways to make their point, though - Brendan, 2017-05-23, 10:49
      - What's the point of a genteel protest? - HullieAndMikes, 2017-05-23, 12:25
        
        I think the point is that - OGerry, 2017-05-25, 04:45
    - On what grounds do you think he shouldn't have been invited? - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 09:21
      - He agreed to run with an authoritarian ape. - domer.mq, 2017-05-23, 13:32
      - He's a truly awful person who did real damage as Gov - JN, 2017-05-23, 11:44
        
        I'm trying to articulate a standard... - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 11:57
        
        If it were up to me politicians wouldn't be the default - JN, 2017-05-23, 12:28
        
        I'd like to see a broader range of speakers - HCE, 2017-05-24, 07:57
        
        It should be deprioritized. - KGB, 2017-05-24, 08:46
        
        As I said in a previous post, my biggest complaint about - BillyGoat, 2017-05-24, 13:37
        
        At least with politicians, you know it's all bullshit - Greg, 2017-05-24, 08:33
        
        Sure, everyone has bias and baggage - JN, 2017-05-24, 08:35
        
        So true - Greg, 2017-05-24, 09:00
        
        Yes. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-24, 08:26
        
        But isn't that balanced out a bit - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 08:21
        
        Absolutely - JN, 2017-05-24, 08:10
        
        I would certainly endorse a policy... - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 14:12
        
        No to any President who does not respect the office. - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 07:23
        
        There may be a few others who would have failed, post- - BillyGoat, 2017-05-24, 12:24
        
        That's a tough line to draw - JN, 2017-05-24, 07:48
        
        He was disbarred for lying under oath. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-24, 08:36
        
        I'm not sure it was meant as a rousing compliment. - KGB, 2017-05-24, 08:52
        
        thank you - JN, 2017-05-24, 09:31
        
        well - JN, 2017-05-24, 08:49
        
        Based on the pictures coming out of today's meeting, - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-24, 08:56
        
        Acc. to the Italian press, - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2017-05-24, 12:01
        
        And that's right after he swatted away Trump's hand - BPH, 2017-05-24, 10:13
        
        Funny. My response was not real well thought out but JFK - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 08:29
        
        I think once you open the policy door - DEM, 2017-05-24, 06:36
        
        I would approve of that policy. - BillyGoat, 2017-05-23, 15:02
        
        My personal standard is "WWTD" ... - BillyGoat, 2017-05-23, 12:07
        
        I agree- see my post above. I think we can say he himself - Grantland, 2017-05-24, 07:25
        
        I tend to agree. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 12:50
      - He cut public health funding, causing an HIV outbreak - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-23, 11:07
        
        Can you provide some evidence for this claim? - Larry, 2017-05-23, 14:51
        
        Short answer, yes. - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-23, 16:12
        
        Are you saying... - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 11:58
        
        To be clear, I'm a bit blinded by my animus for Pence - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-23, 12:48
        
        Fair enough. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 12:51
        
        He's saying that you shouldn't if you caused an HIV outbreak - NDTerp, 2017-05-23, 12:39
        
        Come on now. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 13:16
        
        Whatever you say, Mr. Leavitt - NDTerp, 2017-05-23, 14:18
      - I agree with you - Jeff (BGS), 2017-05-23, 10:02
  - I doubt they'll regret it - Jeff (BGS), 2017-05-22, 16:01
    - We had Mary Ann Glendon, maybe the worst speaker ever - Greg, 2017-05-23, 07:45
      - I had Indiana Lt. Gov. Joe Kernan - Brendan, 2017-05-23, 10:54
        
        Apparently we are classmates. I remember all that - BillyGoat, 2017-05-23, 11:14
        
        Not just a vet, a POW. - Pat (Moco), 2017-05-23, 11:11
        
        Our graduation speaker was Cardinal McCarrick - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-05-23, 11:03
        
        Makes sense. I've spent much of the last decade and - BillyGoat, 2017-05-23, 11:44
      - She refused the Laetare right? Because of Obama? - Grantland, 2017-05-23, 09:28
        
        I seem to recall that. - Greg, 2017-05-23, 09:31
      - If she was worse than Condeleeza... - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 09:22
        
        Hah! We were saved by Sr. Helen Prejean - Greg, 2017-05-23, 09:30
        
        Walker Percy received Laetare at ours. Love him ever since - Grantland, 2017-05-23, 09:24
        
        Now that would be great! I love him. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 09:33
        
        Book Rec: - Grantland, 2017-05-23, 09:42
        
        Yes, it is very good. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-23, 09:47
    - We had the head of the UN as a speaker. - domer.mq, 2017-05-23, 06:56
      - That was an awful speach. I remember him being - BillyGoat, 2017-05-23, 10:57
    - I agree. I've never found undergrad ceremonies - oviedoirish, 2017-05-22, 16:16
- Always gives me a chuckle... - Bill, 2017-05-22, 14:23
  - It's right up there with "Pro-Lifers" who support capital - BillyGoat, 2017-05-22, 14:24
    - I actually get those people's argument - Greg, 2017-05-22, 14:58
      - War, access to healthcare, access to education and food - Frank, 2017-05-23, 05:46
      - Depends on their arguments for why abortion is wrong. But - BillyGoat, 2017-05-22, 15:01
    - That has always bothered me too. - Grantland, 2017-05-22, 14:56
- I'm surprised it got so much coverage - Jeff (BGS), 2017-05-22, 10:22
  - our valedictorian ripped GHWB a new one - Jay, 2017-05-22, 12:04
    - It was a very ND protest. - Slainte Joe, 2017-05-22, 15:21
      - ha! exactly - Jay, 2017-05-23, 11:22
        
        it was anarchy on the way out of the Stadium - Pat, 2017-05-23, 12:57
  - Agreed: - Grantland, 2017-05-22, 10:58
    - Also, I think ND might be one of the more conservative - BillyGoat, 2017-05-22, 11:09
      - I agree. - oviedoirish, 2017-05-22, 12:33
        
        It may be conservative - CK08, 2017-05-22, 12:51
        
        I'd agree with that at the student level, for sure. - BillyGoat, 2017-05-22, 13:23
        
        is there a more conservative top-20ish school? - Jay, 2017-05-22, 12:43
        
        Maybe Vandy, Duke, or Rice? - Jeff (BGS), 2017-05-22, 13:09
        
        Not Duke, IMO. - PAK, 2017-05-23, 06:14
        
        If Duke is conservative - IrishGuard, 2017-05-23, 05:52
        
        My nephew went to Vandy - Jack, 2017-05-22, 13:39
        
        I would think Duke and Vandy would have more students from - Grantland, 2017-05-22, 14:07
        
        Duke is basically the birthplace of the alt-right. - domer.mq, 2017-05-23, 06:57
        
        I feel like Balls & Shaft from PCU... - KGB, 2017-05-23, 08:42
        
        Speaking of a casual shoe for boating - Greg, 2017-05-23, 08:53
        
        Ha! Great question. - KGB, 2017-05-23, 09:00
        
        Last weekend of July through first weekend of August - Greg, 2017-05-23, 09:02
        
        Cool. - KGB, 2017-05-23, 10:10
        
        Good to hear. I am hitting the Cape this summer, as well. - River, 2017-05-23, 10:16
        
        Duke puked up both Richard Spencer and Stephen Miller - HullieAndMikes, 2017-05-23, 07:01
        
        How socially conservative is ND these days? - HCE, 2017-05-22, 13:04
        
        Brown - Greg, 2017-05-22, 12:47
        
        I was curious since my only sibling is a Brown alum. - River, 2017-05-22, 13:05
- Hard pass. - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2017-05-22, 10:06
  - I tried. - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2017-05-24, 10:19

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I tend to agree.