TOP is overrated
The team with the best TOP in the world could be a team with a grind it out offense that never scores and a defense that gives up a touchdown on the first play every time.
The team with the worst TOP in the world could be a team that scores on its first play every time and has a defense that lets teams drive 80 yards on them every time, but stops them at 4th and goal.
These are outlandish examples, but the crux of my argument is that there are much less misleading metrics out there.
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- [original post] some thoughts on TOP and game pacing -
HumanRobot,
2010-07-26, 14:17
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- what do you think of this? -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 18:45
- The defensive variables are more significant -
suave_andrew,
2010-07-26, 21:42
- that's the intent of the proof -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 21:54
- Also, TOP and tempo don't necessarily go hand in hand. -
LaFortune Teller,
2010-07-26, 22:10
- Interesting.
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APND02,
2010-07-27, 05:07
- Interesting.
- Also, TOP and tempo don't necessarily go hand in hand. -
LaFortune Teller,
2010-07-26, 22:10
- that's the intent of the proof -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 21:54
- I didn't look at the data, but is it -
APND02,
2010-07-26, 20:02
- it seems to show defense > offense - Jay, 2010-07-26, 21:33
- The defensive variables are more significant -
suave_andrew,
2010-07-26, 21:42
- Very interesting -
suave_andrew,
2010-07-26, 16:28
- TOP is overrated -
MHB (Rakes of Mallow),
2010-07-26, 19:19
- It may be overrated as a measure of team success, but -
APND02,
2010-07-26, 20:05
- TOP tends to be the result of a good team, -
nedhead,
2010-07-27, 03:22
- I think this is the correct answer. Well put. -
APND02,
2010-07-27, 06:56
- I think this is the correct answer. Well put.
- this dovetails nicely -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 21:37
- Jay, did you look at whether or not a heavy dose of run -
APND02,
2010-07-27, 06:55
- I haven't -
Jay,
2010-07-27, 08:53
- I didn't find it to be a critical factor, mostly because - APND02, 2010-07-27, 11:02
- I haven't -
Jay,
2010-07-27, 08:53
- This could absolutely be it. Although I wouldn't say they - APND02, 2010-07-27, 05:02
- Jay, did you look at whether or not a heavy dose of run -
APND02,
2010-07-27, 06:55
- TOP tends to be the result of a good team, -
nedhead,
2010-07-27, 03:22
- It may be overrated as a measure of team success, but -
APND02,
2010-07-26, 20:05
- also -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 17:12
- I absolutely agree with you Jay. -
APND02,
2010-07-26, 17:20
- I think TOP matters more in the NFL - Geoff, 2010-07-27, 03:09
- I absolutely agree with you Jay. -
APND02,
2010-07-26, 17:20
- TOP is overrated -
MHB (Rakes of Mallow),
2010-07-26, 19:19
- good stuff -
Pat,
2010-07-26, 14:40
- what do you think of this? -
Jay,
2010-07-26, 18:45