Probably not many, but that's a different question
People take cars to Mariano's, or they walk. You do see a fair amount of Zipcars, but I understand your point. The operative thing, though, is that the goal is to move the number of cars downward over time. Not from 2.5 cars per household to 0, but definitely from 2.5 to 1.75 or something on that order of magnitude. Young people are buying cars at really reduced rates relative to older cohorts. The idea is that if you make it sufficiently feasible to exist with 1 car, the numbers will move in your preferred direction over time
Complete thread:
- OT: Hey Chicago people -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 07:21
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- Extend the blue line and give the West burbs - Frank, 2014-04-15, 15:03
- So, what is your skin in this game?
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Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 13:57
- I thought he was Rahm -
Jay,
2014-04-15, 15:17
- TBD -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 14:22
- One thing I noticed -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 15:12
- That's a really good point - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 18:51
- One thing I noticed -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 15:12
- I thought he was Rahm
- Double OT: The need for an NJ-to-LI expressway -
Ken Fowler,
2014-04-15, 12:36
- People drive through Manhattan? -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 13:25
- Generally, taking the RFK to Harlem River Drive is faster - Ken Fowler, 2014-04-15, 13:36
- F that. I don't want more people from LI down the shore -
PootND,
2014-04-15, 13:12
- The Situation Toll Way -
Tim,
2014-04-15, 13:25
- The Situation Toll Way
- People drive through Manhattan? -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 13:25
- Incredibly overdue - Jack, 2014-04-15, 11:26
- google the Crosstown Expressway -
Jay,
2014-04-15, 08:59
- Jus take da Rine to Halsted over dare -
Dylan,
2014-04-15, 09:55
- The crosstown should have been built -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:26
- I lived in Evanston for 2 years -
PBurns,
2014-04-15, 11:21
- ....because it took that long to get back home to the city? -
MattG,
2014-04-15, 12:41
- ....because it took that long to get back home to the city?
- Nine times more than I have -
Jack,
2014-04-15, 11:06
- I walked there once from Wicker Park -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 11:13
- Yep, that walk killed a lot of people -
Jack,
2014-04-15, 13:05
- Yep, that walk killed a lot of people
- I walked there once from Wicker Park -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 11:13
- I lived in Evanston for 2 years -
PBurns,
2014-04-15, 11:21
- The woman who got the ball rolling on this Transit Future -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 09:05
- I remember the Reader did a historical piece on the proposal -
Jay,
2014-04-15, 09:07
- The Reader often overstates things -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:44
- Indeed. Most of Cicero is hideous - Jack, 2014-04-15, 11:10
- iirc, one of the variations was going to be "trucks only" -
Jay,
2014-04-15, 10:07
- Now we have the Illiana Expressway - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 10:14
- The Reader often overstates things -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:44
- I remember the Reader did a historical piece on the proposal -
Jay,
2014-04-15, 09:07
- Jus take da Rine to Halsted over dare
- Just connect Division (Blue) to North & Clybourn (Red/Brown) -
MattG,
2014-04-15, 08:45
- Digging is prohibitively expensive -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:57
- I've been taking the Green Line a fair amount to Oak Park -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:35
- It really is incredible -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 09:55
- Not at all -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:02
- Englewood in particular is an interesting case to me -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:12
- A lot has to infill before that happens - crazychester, 2014-04-15, 10:26
- Englewood in particular is an interesting case to me -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:12
- Not at all -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:02
- It really is incredible -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 09:55
- I've been taking the Green Line a fair amount to Oak Park -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:35
- Digging is prohibitively expensive -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:57
- I've seen the Ashland bus lanes idea before -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 08:45
- The Ashland BRT controversy is super interesitng -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:56
- Lots of resistance to this in the Bucktown leadership. -
Tim,
2014-04-15, 09:24
- I think Pawar is a supporter in the 47th ward -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 09:37
- The East Village Neighborhood Association -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:16
- I know you like Toni Preckwinkle -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:28
- Just as a point of clarification, I'm not in her corner - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 10:37
- I know you like Toni Preckwinkle -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:28
- The East Village Neighborhood Association -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:16
- I think Pawar is a supporter in the 47th ward
- The numbers don't pass a gut check with me -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 09:21
- Yeah I'm not comfortable picking a dog in the fight -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:05
- And the replacement people won't have cars! -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 10:31
- I think Divvy can be considered a success so far -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:35
- It is cheap (IMO) and excellent. I use it frequently. -
Tim,
2014-04-15, 10:53
- I'm starting to see them already this spring - Jeff (BGS), 2014-04-15, 11:16
- Mostly to Jeff's point, but -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:47
- This is what bother's me about these arguments -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 11:29
- Right now that's not happening -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 11:38
- "high-income, urban-focused young people" -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 12:18
- That's not entirely true anymore -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 12:29
- Yep -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 12:38
- How many people take public transportation to Mariano's? -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 13:46
- Probably not many, but that's a different question -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 14:26
- Hey...... - crazychester, 2014-04-15, 15:16
- Another way is to reduce the number of officers on patrol -
Tim,
2014-04-15, 15:01
- The Bloomingdale Trail is going to be huge -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 15:17
- Yeah. Tim, you've basically got a printing press for money - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 18:53
- The Bloomingdale Trail is going to be huge -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 15:17
- Probably not many, but that's a different question -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 14:26
- How many people take public transportation to Mariano's? -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 13:46
- Yep -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 12:38
- That's not entirely true anymore -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 12:29
- "high-income, urban-focused young people" -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 12:18
- Right now that's not happening -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 11:38
- This is what bother's me about these arguments -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 11:29
- It is cheap (IMO) and excellent. I use it frequently.
- I think Divvy can be considered a success so far -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 10:35
- And the replacement people won't have cars! -
Jeff (BGS),
2014-04-15, 10:31
- Yeah I'm not comfortable picking a dog in the fight -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 10:05
- Left turns can be handled, too -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 09:15
- They'll be illegal in most places - Jeff (BGS), 2014-04-15, 09:26
- Lots of resistance to this in the Bucktown leadership. -
Tim,
2014-04-15, 09:24
- The Ashland BRT controversy is super interesitng -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:56
- The Brown Line extension to the Blue Line -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 08:01
- Some thoughts/notes on sequencing -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:13
- Well, there's the rub -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 08:18
- Indulge me on a few of your points -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:43
- I said far South Side -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:23
- Scattered rejoinders - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 09:50
- I said far South Side -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 09:23
- Indulge me on a few of your points -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:43
- Well, there's the rub -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 08:18
- Sort of related - Block 37 superstation -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2014-04-15, 08:08
- Block 37's a vortex unto itself - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 08:21
- Some thoughts/notes on sequencing -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:13
- It just makes me jealous... -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 07:48
- Sigh. Yeah. That ship sailed decades ago in Detroit though. -
PAK,
2014-04-15, 07:57
- If everything that has been proposed happens -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:08
- Here's the issue: I live at Maple and Crooks. Central OC. -
PAK,
2014-04-15, 08:14
- Isn't that also true for most suburbs of anywhere? -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:24
- I really think a lot of suburban mass transit is -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 08:29
- Commuter rail and ways to get to commuter rail -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:32
- I agree with crazychester on this -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:47
- Suburbs love bike paths - CK08, 2014-04-15, 08:49
- I agree with crazychester on this -
Mike (bart),
2014-04-15, 08:47
- Commuter rail and ways to get to commuter rail -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:32
- I really think a lot of suburban mass transit is -
crazychester,
2014-04-15, 08:29
- Isn't that also true for most suburbs of anywhere? -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:24
- Here's the issue: I live at Maple and Crooks. Central OC. -
PAK,
2014-04-15, 08:14
- If everything that has been proposed happens -
CK08,
2014-04-15, 08:08
- Sigh. Yeah. That ship sailed decades ago in Detroit though. -
PAK,
2014-04-15, 07:57
- That web site did not work for me on Firefox. -
Ken Fowler,
2014-04-15, 07:32
- Using the scrollwheel works fine in FF for me. -
PAK,
2014-04-15, 07:53
- Try down arrow key rather than clicking the arrow button. -
Savage,
2014-04-15, 07:41
- Sorry, they've got a static page, too - Mike (bart), 2014-04-15, 07:48
- Using the scrollwheel works fine in FF for me.