Character does matter
I agree with what you're saying and I think there a lot between the lines.
If there were a candidate for Senate somewhere that had built the grassroots popularity of Platner without the baggage of entitlement, machismo and racism (like maybe James Talarico) I would love to support him instead.
I think looking at Platner vs. Talarico offers some insight. They're both voices I'm excited to support for similar and different reasons.
Platner is blunter. He's direct in his criticism of Israel. He's direct in his criticism of billionaires and the concentration of money and power that disadvantages 99% of people. I'm not spending all day listening to his stuff, but he's willing to take stances that remain unorthodox for the leadership of the major parties and make consistent, clear, popular arguments for them. That's really appealing.
Does that "authenticity" of having his own opinions go along with some type of self-centeredness that would make him more likely to be a racist or flirt with women not his wife? I can see how it might.
Talarico appears to be of extremely high character and I love that about him, but his careful political positioning give me less confidence he's going to push for a ton of change. It is also possible his careful clean image will holding back his electability. Will it hurt his electability because he's not the "real American man" who is racist in private or is it just because people suspect someone who uses words carefully is less trustworthy. Probably a little bit of both.
I can't really get behind all the hand-wringing about Platner because he's got political opinions and arguments I wish a lot more politicians were making. If he can win saying the important stuff, I think that's good. If he can win saying that stuff despite having a lot of skeletons, maybe it means those arguments are just really popular.
Still I kind of appreciate the criticism from within the party because I think it does remind us that he's a flawed guy who is just a vehicle for the political arguments and not a hero. Having character is of its own value in politics, and I think it makes the party stronger to maintain our concern about character standards.
At the end of the day, if Platner gains popularity a la Trump for having been, at times, a racist and a misogynist, but he actually apologizes for it and tries to get better, then I think we can maintain a sufficient standard of behavior in our representatives.
Complete thread:
- F'ing Platner gonna cost the Dems any chance at the Senate -
BPH,
2026-06-02, 13:16
- It would be just great if Dem public servants and candidates -
BillyGoat,
2026-06-03, 08:02
- He was always a shitty candidate -
Greg,
2026-06-03, 16:29
- Does it affect your opinion -
nedhead,
2026-06-04, 21:12
- No. In fact... - Greg, 2026-06-05, 07:04
- Wasn't Janet Mills the strongly preferred party candidate?
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nedhead,
2026-06-03, 16:54
- Somebody backed him and gave him money -
Greg,
2026-06-03, 17:19
- Elizabeth Warren backed him over Mills -
San Pedro,
2026-06-04, 08:35
- So did Bernie -
Greg,
2026-06-04, 15:37
- are you saying Platner doesn’t believe in his stances? -
Jay,
2026-06-04, 15:57
- What do you think about his personal character? -
Greg,
2026-06-04, 16:31
- you seem to know him better than I do -
Jay,
2026-06-04, 19:50
- It's broader -
Greg,
2026-06-05, 07:02
- But the centrists, they really stand for something.
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nedhead,
2026-06-05, 07:11
- But the centrists, they really stand for something.
- It's broader -
Greg,
2026-06-05, 07:02
- Unreliable how?
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Romulox,
2026-06-04, 18:35
- you seem to know him better than I do -
Jay,
2026-06-04, 19:50
- What do you think about his personal character? -
Greg,
2026-06-04, 16:31
- are you saying Platner doesn’t believe in his stances? -
Jay,
2026-06-04, 15:57
- So did Bernie -
Greg,
2026-06-04, 15:37
- The people? -
nedhead,
2026-06-03, 17:45
- I guess you could blame the party - KGB, 2026-06-04, 06:38
- Elizabeth Warren backed him over Mills -
San Pedro,
2026-06-04, 08:35
- Yes, very much so.
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Publicola,
2026-06-03, 17:09
- Somebody backed him and gave him money -
Greg,
2026-06-03, 17:19
- Does it affect your opinion -
nedhead,
2026-06-04, 21:12
- Swalwell
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BPH,
2026-06-03, 08:10
- Duh.
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BillyGoat,
2026-06-03, 08:40
- Duh.
- He was always a shitty candidate -
Greg,
2026-06-03, 16:29
- Maybe the 17th Amendment was a mistake -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 07:21
- The Senate was a mistake
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Romulox,
2026-06-03, 11:37
- Really? a) there are plenty of “normie” younger Democrats -
Jack,
2026-06-03, 09:56
- I recall Caro being at least somewhat sympathetic -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 10:29
- Agreed on the primary system, of course - Jack, 2026-06-03, 12:01
- I recall Caro being at least somewhat sympathetic -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 10:29
- C'mon, Flann, that's nonsense. -
Publicola,
2026-06-03, 09:05
- You’re correct in the diagnosis -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 09:43
- Never defer to me on anything - Publicola, 2026-06-03, 13:40
- You’re correct in the diagnosis -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 09:43
- I have no problem with his politics and his policies -
BPH,
2026-06-03, 08:09
- Does he continue to do stuff? -
ndbk32,
2026-06-03, 09:56
- they were, and - Jay, 2026-06-03, 10:12
- Politics and policies are central of course -
Flann,
2026-06-03, 08:37
- Character does matter - Regular Joseph, 2026-06-03, 20:28
- Your last paragraph is the key for me - BPH, 2026-06-03, 09:06
- Does he continue to do stuff? -
ndbk32,
2026-06-03, 09:56
- The Senate was a mistake
- Susan Collins is very concerned by the texts
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KGB,
2026-06-02, 17:23
- I'm not convinced this will do him in. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-02, 16:40
- Agreed. I’d like to see OGerry’s take
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Jack,
2026-06-03, 07:31
- We've come a long way from George Mitchell and Bill Cohen. -
OGerry,
2026-06-03, 08:05
- I don't know how true it actually is -
KGB,
2026-06-03, 08:35
- And I would also add -
Jack,
2026-06-03, 08:38
- And if you don't care about prices at the pump, go try to - BillyGoat, 2026-06-03, 08:41
- And I would also add -
Jack,
2026-06-03, 08:38
- Great stuff, thank you -
Jack,
2026-06-03, 08:34
- Ayuh. - OGerry, 2026-06-05, 08:01
- I don't know how true it actually is -
KGB,
2026-06-03, 08:35
- We've come a long way from George Mitchell and Bill Cohen. -
OGerry,
2026-06-03, 08:05
- Maine is a blue state - Dallasdomer, 2026-06-02, 20:26
- Agreed. I’d like to see OGerry’s take
- It would be just great if Dem public servants and candidates -
BillyGoat,
2026-06-03, 08:02