Really? a) there are plenty of “normie” younger Democrats

by Jack , Wednesday, June 03, 2026, 09:56 (6 days ago) @ Flann
edited by Jack, Wednesday, June 03, 2026, 10:02

I wouldn’t tar all of them with the Platner brush, before he’s even elected (if he’s even elected).

b) Read a history of the Senate before the 17th Amendment. It was full of cronies and hacks starting about 50 years after the ratification of the Constitution. After that, Daniel Webster was not the norm. He was the exception. An excellent short history of the Senate including that period is the opening chapter of Robert Caro’s “Master of the Senate” volume of his biography of LBJ.

The 17th Amendment was one of the best to ever come down the pike.

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F'ing Platner gonna cost the Dems any chance at the Senate - BPH, 2026-06-02, 13:16
- It would be just great if Dem public servants and candidates - BillyGoat, 2026-06-03, 08:02
  - He was always a shitty candidate - Greg, 2026-06-03, 16:29
    - Does it affect your opinion - nedhead, 2026-06-04, 21:12
      - No. In fact... - Greg, 2026-06-05, 07:04
    - Wasn't Janet Mills the strongly preferred party candidate? - nedhead, 2026-06-03, 16:54
      - Somebody backed him and gave him money - Greg, 2026-06-03, 17:19
        
        Elizabeth Warren backed him over Mills - San Pedro, 2026-06-04, 08:35
        
        So did Bernie - Greg, 2026-06-04, 15:37
        
        are you saying Platner doesn’t believe in his stances? - Jay, 2026-06-04, 15:57
        
        What do you think about his personal character? - Greg, 2026-06-04, 16:31
        
        you seem to know him better than I do - Jay, 2026-06-04, 19:50
        
        It's broader - Greg, 2026-06-05, 07:02
        
        But the centrists, they really stand for something. - nedhead, 2026-06-05, 07:11
        
        Unreliable how? - Romulox, 2026-06-04, 18:35
        
        The people? - nedhead, 2026-06-03, 17:45
        
        I guess you could blame the party - KGB, 2026-06-04, 06:38
      - Yes, very much so. - Publicola, 2026-06-03, 17:09
  - Swalwell - BPH, 2026-06-03, 08:10
    - Duh. - BillyGoat, 2026-06-03, 08:40
- Maybe the 17th Amendment was a mistake - Flann, 2026-06-03, 07:21
  - The Senate was a mistake - Romulox, 2026-06-03, 11:37
  - Really? a) there are plenty of “normie” younger Democrats - Jack, 2026-06-03, 09:56
    - I recall Caro being at least somewhat sympathetic - Flann, 2026-06-03, 10:29
      - Agreed on the primary system, of course - Jack, 2026-06-03, 12:01
  - C'mon, Flann, that's nonsense. - Publicola, 2026-06-03, 09:05
    - You’re correct in the diagnosis - Flann, 2026-06-03, 09:43
      - Never defer to me on anything - Publicola, 2026-06-03, 13:40
  - I have no problem with his politics and his policies - BPH, 2026-06-03, 08:09
    - Does he continue to do stuff? - ndbk32, 2026-06-03, 09:56
      - they were, and - Jay, 2026-06-03, 10:12
    - Politics and policies are central of course - Flann, 2026-06-03, 08:37
      - Character does matter - Regular Joseph, 2026-06-03, 20:28
      - Your last paragraph is the key for me - BPH, 2026-06-03, 09:06
- Susan Collins is very concerned by the texts - KGB, 2026-06-02, 17:23
- I'm not convinced this will do him in. - domer.mq, 2026-06-02, 16:40
  - Agreed. I’d like to see OGerry’s take - Jack, 2026-06-03, 07:31
    - We've come a long way from George Mitchell and Bill Cohen. - OGerry, 2026-06-03, 08:05
      - I don't know how true it actually is - KGB, 2026-06-03, 08:35
        
        And I would also add - Jack, 2026-06-03, 08:38
        
        And if you don't care about prices at the pump, go try to - BillyGoat, 2026-06-03, 08:41
      - Great stuff, thank you - Jack, 2026-06-03, 08:34
        
        Ayuh. - OGerry, 2026-06-05, 08:01
  - Maine is a blue state - Dallasdomer, 2026-06-02, 20:26

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Really? a) there are plenty of “normie” younger Democrats