* one of the hosts had a recent sit down with Jack about his hiring (why) Freeman. A what did you see piece, if you will.

One thing they made clear is Swarbrick hired Golden. Jack was super impressed with Golden going back years from a job interview. They didn't say it but you kinda think Swarbrick viewed Golden as a BK replacement and kept an eye on him. BK leaves and Marcus emerges as the top candidate. Politically Golden over Freeman doesn't work so Jack hedges his bets by telling Freeman, the job is yours BUT Al Golden is your #2.

I obviously had heard that before but never heard it said as explicitly.