enlightening read on how Netanyahu talked him into it

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, April 08, 2026, 08:55 (106 days ago) @ Bryan (IrishCavan)

Pretty deep reporting from the NYT (Haberman & Swan).

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html?unlocked_article_cod...

Obviously talked to somebody (or multiple people) who were in the room where it happened.

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Oh boy! - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-04-07, 07:14
- Pentagon bullying the Vatican - Jay, 2026-04-08, 11:09
  - Coincidence? HA!: - Grantland, 2026-04-09, 04:42
  - Imagine the reaction if a Democratic administration did this - San Pedro, 2026-04-08, 16:40
  - This totally tracks. - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 12:15
- enlightening read on how Netanyahu talked him into it - Jay, 2026-04-08, 08:55
  - None of this is remotely surprising. - KGB, 2026-04-08, 10:23
    - I will bet that Vance and Rubio will take credit - oviedoirish, 2026-04-09, 07:06
      - Bet taken. - KGB, 2026-04-09, 08:11
    - Rubio and Vance honestly come out of this looking the worst. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2026-04-08, 19:29
  - How in the world can they not figure out who the insider is? - Grantland, 2026-04-08, 09:27
    - Seriously. It's gotta be even less subtle than Merry and - BillyGoat, 2026-04-08, 09:34
    - The article states "multiple sources", so the real question - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 09:31
      - absolutely - Jay, 2026-04-08, 15:19
      - One of the leakers is always Trump, right? - nedhead, 2026-04-08, 15:19
      - yeah, in that first Netanyahu meeting - Jay, 2026-04-08, 09:37
        
        It’s obviously Rubio - MattG, 2026-04-08, 12:02
        
        Then he clomped out of the room - KGB, 2026-04-08, 12:15
  - Very worthwhile read… somebody in the Vance camp doing some - atxND, 2026-04-08, 09:21
- Meanwhile, plenty more election results - BPH, 2026-04-07, 20:00
- The WH is a glorified elder care home - KGB, 2026-04-07, 08:26
- He must be removed before it's too late! - oviedoirish, 2026-04-07, 08:26
  - I think we need to ask ourselves... - domer.mq, 2026-04-07, 09:44
    - And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?" :-) - oviedoirish, 2026-04-08, 05:21
      - "You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack . . ." - omahadomer, 2026-04-10, 10:21
    - Yes We Do! - Joe I, 2026-04-07, 11:01
  - You think JD is stepping up to do that? - Chris, 2026-04-07, 09:10
- That's just genocide - IrishGuard, 2026-04-07, 08:23
  - TACO - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-07, 08:45
    - replacement efforts need to keep moving forward - Jay, 2026-04-08, 06:31
      - That is total folly. I don't think there are even 3 Cabinet - BillyGoat, 2026-04-08, 09:42
        
        oh, it's a nonstarter for sure - Jay, 2026-04-08, 09:50
    - You called it - IrishGuard, 2026-04-07, 15:49
      - nothing from the Iranians yet - Jay, 2026-04-07, 15:59
        
        Iran is declaring victory. - domer.mq, 2026-04-07, 16:25
        
        If they truly "won" in their minds - Tim, 2026-04-08, 06:09
        
        The 10-point plan is as far from Iran giving up as possible - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-07, 18:40
        
        All 10 points - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-07, 20:32
        
        These 10 points were devised and agreed to by both sides? - BPH, 2026-04-08, 08:45
        
        I don't think so - Jay, 2026-04-08, 08:46
        
        The absurd part is that Trump explicitly stated last night - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 08:57
        
        Well, it didn't take long for shit to hit the fan. - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 10:01
        
        think there' s a high chance - Jay, 2026-04-08, 08:58
        
        I would buy puts on SPY just in case. - San Pedro, 2026-04-08, 09:01
        
        I would bet the over. Meanwhile, Israel will keep bombing - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 09:01
        
        Israel killed 245 people in Lebanon today - Jay, 2026-04-08, 12:48
        
        Thanks, that makes more sense - BPH, 2026-04-08, 08:53
        
        So a worse deal than Obama negotiated. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-04-08, 05:31
        
        And radicalized another generation of Iranians - KGB, 2026-04-08, 06:52
        
        And destroyed alliances. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2026-04-08, 06:55
        
        He's been killing those for a decade now. - KGB, 2026-04-08, 07:13
        
        This, far more than anything else. - Joe I, 2026-04-08, 07:00
        
        An overwhelming geopolitical victory for Iran on these terms - suave_andrew, 2026-04-08, 04:24
        
        and those girls are still dead - Jay, 2026-04-08, 05:49
        
        God only loves fetuses and white children - terribletr, 2026-04-09, 07:01
        
        Those girls are almost completely forgotten. - Grantland, 2026-04-08, 06:29
        
        Heartbreakingly correct. - Angel, 2026-04-08, 06:39
        
        they weren't protected by Hegseth's god - Jay, 2026-04-08, 06:43
        
        I do not know why I do this to myself, but I listen to those - Grantland, 2026-04-08, 07:16
        
        Iran will make $2B every ~10 days - domer.mq, 2026-04-08, 04:15
        
        NYT says Iran accepted after China, Pakistan intervened. - Savage, 2026-04-07, 16:25
    - as an added benefit, our 401Ks will go up - NDinVA, 2026-04-07, 09:39
      - This is why I don’t think anything will happen - Jeff (BGS), 2026-04-07, 15:14
        
        If Trump were actually capable of 4D chess - atxND, 2026-04-07, 19:43
        
        He can't play tic tac toe, much less checkers. - BillyGoat, 2026-04-08, 06:58
- a Hegseth/Pentagon presser this morning was canceled - Jay, 2026-04-07, 08:21
- Sounds like a Bond villain - bpeters07, 2026-04-07, 08:20
  - Blofelt - Busco21, 2026-04-07, 15:17
- Did you know... - PMan, 2026-04-07, 08:10

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enlightening read on how Netanyahu talked him into it