Best not to characterize.
‘Both sides’ do it, no doubt. I think too many people use what they hear, rather than their own experience to describe the world around them. I know many, many people who voted for Trump. If I believed them to be racists or bigots, I wouldn’t have counted them as friends in the first place. While I think most racists voted for Trump, I trust my personal experience not to make the counter argument.
Complete thread:
- Umberto Eco on fascism -
Jay,
2018-10-31, 08:03
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- Were Trump articulate and speaking German tonight... - domer.mq, 2018-11-01, 18:00
- This is pretty stunning. -
domer.mq,
2018-11-01, 07:29
- turns out the guy was released by Arpaio - Jay, 2018-11-02, 08:02
- Sticks and stones may break my bones, - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2018-11-01, 14:22
- Willie Horton ad updated to the 21st century - hobbs, 2018-11-01, 07:52
- First, thanks Jay for posting a great article. -
Regular Joseph,
2018-10-31, 16:53
- I feel like this is too structural -
Mike (bart),
2018-11-01, 07:03
- I don't intend to say to anyone -
Regular Joseph,
2018-11-01, 11:28
- What if people do think and reflect? -
Mike (bart),
2018-11-01, 13:57
- i’ve been thinking about this challenge -
Regular Joseph,
2018-11-03, 08:54
- well - Regular Joseph, 2018-11-03, 09:59
- i’ve been thinking about this challenge -
Regular Joseph,
2018-11-03, 08:54
- What if people do think and reflect? -
Mike (bart),
2018-11-01, 13:57
- I don't intend to say to anyone -
Regular Joseph,
2018-11-01, 11:28
- Stellar
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MattG,
2018-10-31, 20:10
- Thoughtful response. - PMan, 2018-10-31, 17:34
- I feel like this is too structural -
Mike (bart),
2018-11-01, 07:03
- Thanks. Will definitely read, & will offer a pop culture rec - Albie, 2018-10-31, 14:13
- Have you all read the Hamilton book? - Grantland, 2018-10-31, 11:05
- Thanks for sharing. Excellent and very relevant. -
oviedoirish,
2018-10-31, 10:53
- "Mussolini did not have any philosophy:" - domer.mq, 2018-10-31, 09:52
- That is a terrific article - and a topical addendum -
Jack,
2018-10-31, 09:19
- Violet Gibson - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2018-10-31, 10:11
- Eco's theories have proven shockingly prescient -
HCE,
2018-10-31, 08:57
- I see Trumpism checking a lot of his boxes -
Jay,
2018-10-31, 09:00
- Eco's last two novels also dug into Trumpist themes - HCE, 2018-10-31, 11:15
- 3-8, 10, and 14 seem particularly relevant -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 09:15
- I see Trumpism checking a lot of his boxes -
Jay,
2018-10-31, 09:00
- I'm waiting for Dan Brown's simpler and shorter version -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 08:28
- if you're short on time, skim about halfway down -
Jay,
2018-10-31, 08:53
- Thanks, bud. A thought -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 09:58
- hmmmm.... - Domer99, 2018-11-01, 07:21
- my frustration with the frustrated middle -
HumanRobot,
2018-10-31, 11:23
- The alienated and frustrated middle class - nedhead, 2018-10-31, 15:43
- The rise in middle class inequality -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-10-31, 10:33
- The formula is not simple - Mark, 2018-10-31, 10:46
- How is that viewpoint, though... -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 10:07
- I think it comes down to... -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 10:14
- On the contrary, we've been far too tolerant of bigotry -
HCE,
2018-10-31, 13:18
- Some of them are pretty radical. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 13:38
- Not one thing in that long list is "mainstream" -
Jack,
2018-10-31, 16:40
- To all: Some of it is certainly mainstream. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 17:18
- Those last 2 aren't mainstream either - Jack, 2018-11-01, 07:48
- As a Leftist -
HumanRobot,
2018-10-31, 17:43
- Heh, thanks :) - Savage, 2018-10-31, 19:00
- My 4yo was Black Panther tonight. -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 17:51
- Awesome! - Savage, 2018-10-31, 18:59
- I'm always leery about people who capitalize "the Left". -
Bill,
2018-10-31, 17:27
- I was trying not to use Democrats. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 18:52
- Best not to characterize. - Bill, 2018-10-31, 19:19
- I was trying not to use Democrats. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 18:52
- To all: Some of it is certainly mainstream. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 17:18
- I don't see anything very 'mainstream' there. -
Bill,
2018-10-31, 16:02
- Some of that is pretty crazy - CK08, 2018-10-31, 15:57
- There’s a line here somewhere - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-10-31, 13:48
- Not one thing in that long list is "mainstream" -
Jack,
2018-10-31, 16:40
- The whole Megyn Kelly fiasco was a lot of fun - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-10-31, 13:22
- Some of them are pretty radical. -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 13:38
- Where are you seeing the constant put-downs of the -
Bill,
2018-10-31, 12:29
- Erm, this thread? -
OGerry,
2018-10-31, 13:43
- While I appreciate the comment -
Bill,
2018-10-31, 13:45
- Funny. It's some kind of "reverse dogwhistle". -
Savage,
2018-10-31, 13:47
- Let's try to add some clarity -
Mike (bart),
2018-10-31, 14:09
- Maybe it's more of an anti-Trump echo chamber -
Jack,
2018-10-31, 16:35
- That's how I see it. - domer.mq, 2018-10-31, 18:16
- More irksome than surly. -
OGerry,
2018-10-31, 15:30
- Maybe it's more of an anti-Trump echo chamber -
Jack,
2018-10-31, 16:35
- Let's try to add some clarity -
Mike (bart),
2018-10-31, 14:09
- Funny. It's some kind of "reverse dogwhistle".
- While I appreciate the comment -
Bill,
2018-10-31, 13:45
- Erm, this thread? -
OGerry,
2018-10-31, 13:43
- How up-to-the-minute are we talking? -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 10:34
- It seems to me that there are three groups of people -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:10
- I think you're probably onto something. -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 12:25
- More specific than that -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:41
- OK, I get that, but... -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 12:46
- We need to do something -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:52
- What happens when you provide that and people -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-10-31, 13:31
- Good article - Domer99, 2018-11-01, 08:22
- We have public education. -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 13:02
- The article I posted above gets to your point. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-10-31, 13:35
- I actually do hope some sort of remote work... - domer.mq, 2018-11-01, 09:10
- The article I posted above gets to your point. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-10-31, 13:35
- What happens when you provide that and people -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2018-10-31, 13:31
- To follow up on myself... - domer.mq, 2018-10-31, 12:48
- We need to do something -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:52
- OK, I get that, but... -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 12:46
- More specific than that -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:41
- I think you're probably onto something. -
domer.mq,
2018-10-31, 12:25
- It seems to me that there are three groups of people -
CK08,
2018-10-31, 12:10
- Your obsession with those nasty "progressives" is noted -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-10-31, 10:29
- How in God's green earth do you get that from his post? -
MTIrish,
2018-11-01, 08:20
- Thanks for proving the point -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 11:34
- I’d prefer people use the correct pronouns when referring -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-10-31, 11:55
- To quote the great Ty Webb - jcocktoaston, 2018-11-01, 06:40
- I mean -
CW (Rakes),
2018-10-31, 11:51
- Do you want to stop racism? -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 12:10
- How would you propose... - domer.mq, 2018-10-31, 12:20
- Dude I like you a lot and think you're a great poster -
Mike (bart),
2018-10-31, 12:13
- Mike, I enjoy discussing things with you here -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 13:26
- lack of empathy is a serious charge -
Mike (bart),
2018-10-31, 14:03
- I could be wrong - HullieAndMikes, 2018-10-31, 16:37
- lack of empathy is a serious charge -
Mike (bart),
2018-10-31, 14:03
- Mike, I enjoy discussing things with you here -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 13:26
- Do you want to stop racism? -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 12:10
- You realize - Mike (bart), 2018-10-31, 11:39
- I’d prefer people use the correct pronouns when referring -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-10-31, 11:55
- How in God's green earth do you get that from his post?
- On the contrary, we've been far too tolerant of bigotry -
HCE,
2018-10-31, 13:18
- I think it comes down to... -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 10:14
- Thanks, bud. A thought -
Greg,
2018-10-31, 09:58
- if you're short on time, skim about halfway down -
Jay,
2018-10-31, 08:53
- Robert Paxton's Anatomy of Fascism is a good book - HullieAndMikes, 2018-10-31, 08:22