conservative but not an Orban clone
Orban started as anti-communist and very much pro-democracy, and Magyar was in that following. I was studying abroad in Innsbruck when things started opening up and the wall came down, and I remember reading articles about a younger Orban in Hungary demanding that the Soviets leave. But as Orban grew more autocratic, corrupt, and ever more tied to Russia, Magyar split from him and launched Tisza. He's definitely pro-Europe, pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine. And he doesn't seem to be as hostile to liberal society and the free press, as Orban became.
Complete thread:
- It’s a beautiful day in Budapest. Éljen Magyarország! -
Jack,
2026-04-12, 12:56
- A couple of items -
Mark,
2026-04-12, 15:59
- conservative but not an Orban clone -
Jay,
2026-04-12, 16:17
- Exactly. It was the whole reason Magyar ran - Jack, 2026-04-13, 09:55
- His victory speech was fiery... -
domer.mq,
2026-04-12, 16:30
- I wouldn’t assume Orban will be prosecuted at all -
Jack,
2026-04-13, 09:58
- I did a whole lot of googling … -
Mark,
2026-04-13, 20:38
- Very interesting, thanks!
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Jack,
2026-04-13, 22:21
- Very interesting, thanks!
- I did a whole lot of googling … -
Mark,
2026-04-13, 20:38
- Very underrated error -
Dallasdomer,
2026-04-12, 19:08
- I knew/strongly suspected that the J11 investigation - hobbs, 2026-04-12, 20:11
- I wouldn’t assume Orban will be prosecuted at all -
Jack,
2026-04-13, 09:58
- conservative but not an Orban clone -
Jay,
2026-04-12, 16:17
- recommend this episode with Anne Applebaum -
Jay,
2026-04-12, 13:06
- The entire article is almost incredible in its depth - Joe I, 2026-04-12, 15:21
- She is great. I’ve read two of her books - Jack, 2026-04-12, 13:13
- Rough week for the Veep
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domer.mq,
2026-04-12, 13:04
- Insane that they sent this useless fucking mope over there -
KGB,
2026-04-12, 17:15
- Good week for Rubio. -
nedhead,
2026-04-12, 17:26
- and yet consider that the U.S. Secretary of State -
Jay,
2026-04-12, 17:33
- A smart politician avoids the stink of this clown show -
atxND,
2026-04-13, 05:50
- I know it sounds like wishful thinking -
KGB,
2026-04-13, 06:39
- If you were studying it all objectively and trying to - atxND, 2026-04-13, 06:45
- I know it sounds like wishful thinking -
KGB,
2026-04-13, 06:39
- Right. - bobbywal, 2026-04-12, 18:01
- Rubio was at the UFC fight while the deal fell apart... - domer.mq, 2026-04-12, 18:00
- Why isn't Dennis Rodman representing the US?
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nedhead,
2026-04-12, 17:40
- He will be the *rebound* after Rubio is kicked to the curb
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MattG,
2026-04-13, 04:41
- He will be the *rebound* after Rubio is kicked to the curb
- A smart politician avoids the stink of this clown show -
atxND,
2026-04-13, 05:50
- and yet consider that the U.S. Secretary of State -
Jay,
2026-04-12, 17:33
- Good week for Rubio. -
nedhead,
2026-04-12, 17:26
- Maybe Trump will fire him too
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Jack,
2026-04-12, 13:09
- Lol but that would be good for Vance - terribletr, 2026-04-12, 14:29
- Insane that they sent this useless fucking mope over there -
KGB,
2026-04-12, 17:15
- A couple of items -
Mark,
2026-04-12, 15:59