I'm going to make the argument...
that with the exception of tOSU, the other two are symptoms of a tougher schedule than USC gets.
USC schedules better than anyone (better than us) but those teams just keep sucking (including us) and their conference doesn't do them any favors either.
In addition, their reward each year is to play the 2nd best Big10 team if tOSU does well or the best Big10 team if tOSU sucks that year.
Texas and Florida play real bowl games and they play real conference championship games in addition to a tougher schedule to begin with. I'd have no problem with 3 losses 2 years after a NC.
Carroll's record is remarkable but the facts will show that while Carroll's been coach at USC...
tOSU has a BCS championship and 2 appearances
Texas has a title
Florida has 2 titles
USC has a title and a runner-up...but gets the edge because of their AP title.
Of note- since Carroll's been a Trojan there's been 8 BCS games
only 8 teams have participated.
You know what, if we include the year before Petey gets to USC Oklahoma probably wins.
1 title, 4 runner-ups. That's pretty consistent as well.
I've decided, Stoops wins this fight.
Complete thread:
- ND and USC - Spring Two Deeps -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 17:19
- Ethan Johnson was only a 4 Star?
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Jim (fisherj08),
2009-02-15, 17:36
- On Rivals.... - FunkDoctorSpock, 2009-02-15, 17:38
- this would be the year to catch them -
Jay,
2009-02-15, 17:27
- What will we lose between '09 and '10? -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 17:43
- Only significant losses - BPH, 2009-02-15, 18:48
- I'd guess we will have roughly 17 starters back in 2010. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2009-02-15, 17:45
- ND Football 2009 - "It's Time" -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 17:32
- The best aspect of Carroll's coaching... -
domer.mq,
2009-02-15, 18:18
- I think tOSU reloads that easily -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 18:28
- No one reloads as well as SC. -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 18:35
- I'm going to make the argument... -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 18:53
- Good points.... - FunkDoctorSpock, 2009-02-15, 18:54
- I'm going to make the argument... -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 18:53
- No one reloads as well as SC. -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 18:35
- I agree with all of that.
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FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 18:19
- I think tOSU reloads that easily -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 18:28
- I agree. -
Bingo,
2009-02-15, 17:41
- their OL is still scary as hell
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Jay,
2009-02-15, 17:47
- No question. - Bingo, 2009-02-15, 18:07
- What surprised me about SC.... -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2009-02-15, 17:54
- they're lucky Mays came back -
Jay,
2009-02-15, 17:57
- That secondary is insanely talented and deep
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BPH,
2009-02-15, 18:51
- That secondary is insanely talented and deep
- they're lucky Mays came back -
Jay,
2009-02-15, 17:57
- their OL is still scary as hell
- The best aspect of Carroll's coaching... -
domer.mq,
2009-02-15, 18:18
- What will we lose between '09 and '10? -
MadisonDomer,
2009-02-15, 17:43
- Ethan Johnson was only a 4 Star?