I don't know what the long view is

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:08 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

I think that's really a person-to-person decision. For me, the backward evolution that each of the last three coaches "accomplished" during their respective tenures (and that recognizes what was a 2-year forward evolution and then huge regression to end up net negative under Weis) combined with the university's lack of progress on many fronts until the past 3-4 years (Gug, training table, etc.) tells me that we need a real cleansing of the program that might take 5 years. But I won't harshly judge somebody who may think the turnaround should be done in a shorter period of time.

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text conversation with a good friend of mine - Jay, 2011-09-14, 07:35
- Nit: It's been 18 years, not 15. - Kevin, 2011-09-14, 09:03
  - I think it's been less a Trail of Tears - Jay, 2011-09-14, 09:05
    - I think this is my list. - Glass, 2011-09-14, 16:11
    - And it's a little Michigan of us - Kevin, 2011-09-14, 09:18
      - But we did win - KelleyCook, 2011-09-14, 10:11
        
        This is indisputable. Talk about your Black Swans. - Dylan, 2011-09-14, 10:17
        
        In this particular instance, I welcome the passage of time. - KGB, 2011-09-14, 14:13
    - Beautiful mountains - Greg, 2011-09-14, 09:06
- Just switch to 2007 mode - CW (Rakes), 2011-09-14, 08:53
  - it was pretty easy that year - Jay, 2011-09-14, 08:59
    - Wow, I was the complete opposite. - Pete, 2011-09-14, 09:32
      - That was the Ty landmine year - Dylan, 2011-09-14, 09:41
      - it took me two weeks and a post-Michigan Charlie presser - Jay, 2011-09-14, 09:37
        
        The presser was classic - BPH, 2011-09-14, 12:16
        
        I still have it saved somewhere around here - Jay, 2011-09-14, 13:45
      - After the Navy game that year - Jim (fisherj08), 2011-09-14, 09:33
    - As despondent as I am - Dylan, 2011-09-14, 09:28
      - What's the opposite of smoke and mirrors? - Pete, 2011-09-14, 10:31
        
        Gin and strapons. - hlewis, 2011-09-15, 06:10
        
        Why, Tongziland, of course! - Joe I, 2011-09-15, 09:16
        
        fire and brimstone - Jay, 2011-09-14, 10:51
        
        Wood and felt - Dylan, 2011-09-14, 10:47
      - taking a look back at 2002 - Jay, 2011-09-14, 10:25
        
        I think that Michigan safety - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2011-09-14, 11:43
        
        I went to the USC game thinking our defense - Jay, 2011-09-14, 11:46
        
        Even the SC game had a fluky defense/ST play - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2011-09-14, 11:51
        
        Some good memories in there. - nedhead, 2011-09-14, 11:31
        
        does this team feel like that team? - Jay, 2011-09-14, 10:28
        
        it's like we're 2002's opponents - HumanRobot, 2011-09-14, 10:42
        
        It's the inverse, sort of - Greg, 2011-09-14, 10:41
        
        ABSOLUT Inverse. - Joe I, 2011-09-14, 10:50
        
        So, wait, - Pete, 2011-09-14, 10:48
      - My head knows it's too early to draw any conclusions. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2011-09-14, 10:04
      - Agreed. I think this is an important thing to keep in mind. - Mike (Embrey), 2011-09-14, 09:53
    - I don't know what the long view is - Greg, 2011-09-14, 09:08
    - Scratch this year - Geoff, 2011-09-14, 09:07
- Did we just create a Notre Dame support group? - Jim (fisherj08), 2011-09-14, 08:49
  - Can this be our logo? - NDTerp, 2011-09-14, 10:06
  - when you say you feel "trapped" in a man's body - Jay, 2011-09-14, 09:40
  - Appropriately, led by Tobias Funke, Analrapist. - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2011-09-14, 09:31
  - And how does that make you feel? - Chris (HCC), 2011-09-14, 09:06
- Similar situation here - irishvol, 2011-09-14, 08:48
  - What bothers me the most.. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2011-09-14, 09:14
  - The internal battle I'm fighting right now is a real bitch. - Chris, 2011-09-14, 08:56
- Text convo with my friend Sat. (WARNING LANG) - Bingo, 2011-09-14, 08:33
  - I don't know what the hell kind of amusement parks you go to - Chris (HCC), 2011-09-14, 08:38
    - Why, Tongziland, of course! - Joe I, 2011-09-14, 09:55
      - There are so many questions that I have - Jim (fisherj08), 2011-09-14, 09:59
- I'm so messed up... - PMan, 2011-09-14, 08:33
  - You're not alone. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2011-09-14, 08:35
    - I'm DVR'ing it and going outside. - NDTerp, 2011-09-14, 10:03
- I'm beginning to think my roommate might have been right - KelleyCook, 2011-09-14, 08:29
  - There are a variety of ways to approach this - Greg, 2011-09-14, 08:36
    - Everyone should just blog about it. - domer.mq, 2011-09-14, 08:42
      - Sweet, can I have a guest spot? - Joe, 2011-09-14, 09:18
        
        Yes. - domer.mq, 2011-09-14, 09:47
- You know what I did after the game? - Mike (Embrey), 2011-09-14, 08:03
  - I put on -- no kidding -- - Jay, 2011-09-14, 08:07
    - I watched a season of Breaking Bad - Jim (fisherj08), 2011-09-14, 08:17
      - I watched Blue Valentine. - KGB, 2011-09-14, 08:40
        
        I'd watch the original My Bloody Valentine if I could. - Chris, 2011-09-14, 08:42
- Wait, I don't remember texting you! - FunkDoctorSpock, 2011-09-14, 07:54
- Look at you - Mike (bart), 2011-09-14, 07:48
- I had the same conversation - Jeff (BGS), 2011-09-14, 07:40
  - No way would I be up at 3 AM answering e-mails. - Joe, 2011-09-14, 07:42
    - I made it to 1:30 AM central time. - Silk, 2011-09-14, 08:26
      - I try that rationale on my wife - BPH, 2011-09-14, 12:54
      - Oh you definitely weren't alone. - Chris, 2011-09-14, 08:33
        
        On an hour-long drive home that night - Kevin, 2011-09-14, 09:08
        
        It was rough, because my wife had company over. - Joe, 2011-09-14, 09:14

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I don't know what the long view is