text conversation with a good friend of mine

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 07:35 (5341 days ago)

me: Where are you? Have you abandoned ND football?

him: I need to step away for a bit. I was so wrecked Saturday night I couldn't sleep. Literally. Finally, I got up at 3:00 and read until I nodded off in the chair. 15 years of misery might be my limit. Worst loss I've ever seen. At any rate, I can't even think about looking at a message board right now.

Me: You don't know the half of it. I was at a bar, tried to pick a fight with a guy laughing at ND. he and his two buddies. Thankfully they didn't take me seriously or I would have ended up in the hospital. "probably time to reevaluate your priorities, jay"

Him: Glad you survived. Had the same conversation with my buddy John. He was up all night wondering how he can change his life. Same with my college roommate. Sat night was a dagger in the heart of this program. I get the shakes when I think about the implications.

Me: biggest gut punch I've ever witnessed. I don't remember the Anthony Davis game, but my dad said it was similar

Him: All I could picture was Cook laughing. I think I need Paxil.

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Nit: It's been 18 years, not 15.

by Kevin @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:03 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

18 years of misery.

I think it's been less a Trail of Tears

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:05 (5341 days ago) @ Kevin
edited by Jay, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:41

and more like a Donner Party.

"Beautiful mountains! Anybody else getting hungry?"

I think this is my list.

by Glass, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 16:11 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

1) BC '93

2) Miami '89

3) Miami '85

4) Michigan State '10

5) Michigan '11

6) USC '05

7) Michigan '06

8) Michigan '91

9) TAMU '87

10) Colorado '90

11) Stanford '90

12) Tennessee '91

And it's a little Michigan of us

by Kevin @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:18 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

to mark the last great year with a season in which we didn't actually win the title.

But we did win

by KelleyCook @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:11 (5341 days ago) @ Kevin

Not really our fault if the AP voters thought it best that year to award Bobby a Lifetime Achievement award instead of a real National Championship.

This is indisputable. Talk about your Black Swans.

by Dylan, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:17 (5341 days ago) @ KelleyCook

Certainly will go down as the only time history that the team that finished #2 had beaten the team that finished #1.

In this particular instance, I welcome the passage of time.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 14:13 (5341 days ago) @ Dylan

Seems that everyone who was following closely at the time had a strong opinion on the matter, with some of those opinions being objectively horseshit in nature. 50 years after the fact, people will look at the record books and rightly scratch their heads over that goddamned traveshamockery.

Beautiful mountains

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:06 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

And lots of eating our own

Just switch to 2007 mode

by CW (Rakes) @, Harlan County, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:53 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

No reason to let losing football ruin the joy of a good tailgate.

it was pretty easy that year

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:59 (5341 days ago) @ CW (Rakes)

Young team (youngest in fifty years by our count); record to date under Weis was good. Easy to chalk it up to "rebuilding" and "still learning" and "too young."

It's harder to chalk this 0-2 up to "still learning", given the fact that we have plenty of depth in the lines; we have good playmakers on both sides of the ball; we were coming off a 4-game winning streak; and we should have won both games so far.

But I guess you have to admit that we're still just 15 games into the program. What's the long view? Five years?

Wow, I was the complete opposite.

by Pete, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:32 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

After the Michigan drubbing of 2007, I was damn near catatonic. It got a smidge easier as the year progress, aided by some actual wins on the record, but 2007 was a real pull-off-your-fingernails kind of year. We were so abysmally bad. It's tough to watch a team you know is the worst team likely field in Notre Dame's entire history, and that there was pretty much nothing that could be done to fix it in the short term. And doing things like losing to Navy for the first time in over 40 years certainly didn't help matters.

This year, it sucks real bad that we've lost. But if one's looking for hope, there's a lot more to find this year, and it's much more readily available.

That was the Ty landmine year

by Dylan, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:41 (5341 days ago) @ Pete

Weis had plenty of other issues, but that OL was all on Ty, and that OL is why we were so bad.

it took me two weeks and a post-Michigan Charlie presser

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:37 (5341 days ago) @ Pete

to realize that the season was basically a write-off. Yeah, I was pissed throughout (publicly, too - that was the season NBC graciously offered to air my rantings on the Walters-Tiffany show every week). But there's a difference. I think it's the difference between despair, and terror.

The presser was classic

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 12:16 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Essentially boiled down to "We stink so bad that we're going to start from scratch. On second thought, yes, perhaps we should have begun with blocking and tackling instead of fun new schemes gleaned from West Virginia."

I still have it saved somewhere around here

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 13:45 (5341 days ago) @ BPH

- No text -

After the Navy game that year

by Jim (fisherj08) @, A Samoan kid's laptop, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:33 (5341 days ago) @ Pete

My roommate and I finished a case of beer and stayed up till 2 AM watching Silence of the Lambs. Some of our friends periodically called us to make sure we were still alive.

Bonus note: We maybe said 5 words to each other the entire night.

As despondent as I am

by Dylan, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:28 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

and I am totally despondent, considering that I am going to deliberately avoid an ND game for the first time in my life, I think we need to keep our heads and keep an eye on those things that are truly measurable.

These past two games pretty much defy explanation. When was the last time ND committed nine turnovers (I'm not really counting the last one since it didn't matter) in two games? I know our brains are wired to seek out patterns (this is why I often wonder if my ipod is sentient), but sometimes those patterns are phantasms.

I think we need to step back to August 2010 and revisit the questions we were asking then and see how we stack up. I don't think "We need to not turn the ball over 5 times a game" was anywhere on that list. I do think that the things ND fans wanted to see were:

- Improved play on OL
- Improved play on DL
- Improved DL recruiting
- steady progress in the running game
- More physical play, in general
- program building (through depth, cultural changes, etc)

15 games in, I think Kelly's made strides in all areas, frankly. I'd have liked to have won more games, of course, but I like where we are now a lot better than where we were at the end of Ty's first season. I don't have that "smoke and mirrors" feeling. Quite the opposite. I think there is an excellent team somewhere in there, it just needs to emerge. What's preventing that emergence is the $15MM question, but I don't think it's tied into the maladies we were looking to cure before Kelly got here.

And while there are no excuses, there's been some pretty weird, unpredictable shit that's happened, from a rash of key injuries to multiple deaths (!) around the program. It's no wonder we're staggering. Despite all that, I do see signs of life and the laying of a foundation, and that's the most important thing for the long-term health of the program.

What's the opposite of smoke and mirrors?

by Pete, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:31 (5341 days ago) @ Dylan

Rain and windows?

Gin and strapons.

by hlewis, Thursday, September 15, 2011, 06:10 (5340 days ago) @ Pete

Don't ask how I know this.

Why, Tongziland, of course!

by Joe I @, Thursday, September 15, 2011, 09:16 (5340 days ago) @ hlewis

fire and brimstone

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:51 (5341 days ago) @ Pete

- No text -

Wood and felt

by Dylan, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:47 (5341 days ago) @ Pete

Next question?

taking a look back at 2002

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:25 (5341 days ago) @ Dylan
edited by Jay, Friday, July 14, 2023, 11:02

The very definition of "smoke and mirrors."

* beat Maryland 22-0 on five field goals and a Vontez Duff punt return TD. Three interceptions by Shane Walton.

* beat Purdue 24-17, Sapp and Bolen with fumble returns for TDs, Duff with an INT for TD. Notre Dame at that point 2-0 without scoring an offensive touchdown.

* beat Michigan 25-23. Walton knocks down a 2pt conversion with 21 seconds left that would have tied the game. Outgained by Michigan, ND also scored a safety in this game.

* beat Michigan State 21-17. Dillingham to Battle with a minute to go. Again outgained by the opponent but managed to win.

* killed Stanford 31-7. Walton and Watson with INT returns for TD. Stanford was horrible that year (2-9).

* beat Pitt 14-6. ND forces three turnovers, including one that sets up the go-ahead 12-yard TD "drive." Final yardage in favor of Pitt, 402-185. Willingham says postgame that he "didn't believe we were outplayed."

* beat Air Force 21-14. First solid offensive game of the year, but score was tied until midway through 3rd.

* beat Florida State 34-24. Tagline is almost unbelievable today, looking back:

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Carlyle Holiday stepped out of the tunnel, back onto the field and was immediately surrounded by reporters. The band was playing, fans were cheering and Holiday was smiling.

This Notre Dame victory felt good, maybe better than all the rest.

Holiday threw for 185 yards and two touchdowns as the No. 6 Fighting Irish took their turnaround to a new plateau Saturday, beating No. 11 Florida State 34-24 to remain unbeaten and in the hunt for the national championship.

The victory solidified Notre Dame's return to national prominence under first-year coach Tyrone Willingham.

FSU outgained ND 419-301, but turned it over 4 times, setting up ND touchdown "drives" of 17 yards and 2 yards.

* #4(!) ND loses to Boston College, 14-7. Dillingham hands off the ball to a defender for a 70-yard "interception".

* ND squeaks by Navy, 30-23. Duff with a KO return for a TD. Touchdown pass to Jenkins with 2 minutes left puts ND on top.

* ND beats a shitless, 1-11 Rutgers team.

* ND pounded by Southern Cal 44-13. Absolutely pounded. Yardage 610-109.

* finally, lose to NC State in the bowl game, 28-6.

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I think that Michigan safety

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 11:43 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Was a holding call in the end zone when Justin Tuck was dragged down by a M lineman.

Incredible year. Even the student body knew we were a shitty team, but after that Dillingham TD against MSU, people starting believing. In fact, I almost talked myself into the proposition that we were a better team with Dillingham at QB. What the hell was I thinking?

I went to the USC game thinking our defense

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 11:46 (5341 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

was going "give them a game". And they sort of did, for about one and a half quarters.

Even the SC game had a fluky defense/ST play

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 11:51 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

CPA's blocked punt was about the only thing that went right in the entire game.

Some good memories in there.

by nedhead @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 11:31 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

That Air Force tailgate was great, went all day and all night - because we couldn't leave the parking lot.

And that Dillingham handoff for the BC TD was hilarious.

does this team feel like that team?

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:28 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

- No text -

it's like we're 2002's opponents

by HumanRobot @, Cybertron, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:42 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

- No text -

It's the inverse, sort of

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:41 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

In 2002, I'd show up to work on Monday and get the "Whew, you guys pulled out another win. Wow. Just know how to get it done!" from colleagues. Meanwhile, while I soaked in the warm bath of victory my mind was tossing and turning because I knew we were not solid, but I also thought that Ty was keeping the team focused and able to take advantage of mistakes. Eventually, we got annihilated by SC.

This year, I show up to work and get "Hah! Fumbled away another one! Do your guys even know how to cover a wide receiver?" But while I am drenched by the cold fire hose of ugly defeat, my gut is tossing and turning because I know that we are playing well -- other than massive mistakes as chronicled here by people smarter than me -- and yet we seem to be unfocused and giving opponents the ability to take advantage of our mistakes.

I have settled in on hope that there is an annhilation of SC coming in 5 weeks. That would complete the inversion make the last two weeks bearable.

ABSOLUT Inverse.

by Joe I @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:50 (5341 days ago) @ Greg

I need a drink.

So, wait,

by Pete, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:48 (5341 days ago) @ Greg

when Notre Dame fired Ty after three years, the school was wrongly accused of being racist.

So does that mean in Year 3, Notre Dame will give Brian Kelly a contract extension, it will be lauded by the media but really done because it's racist? I may have gotten lost somewhere.

My head knows it's too early to draw any conclusions.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:04 (5341 days ago) @ Dylan

My heart and my balls absolutely detest ND football and it's whacky ways at the moment

Agreed. I think this is an important thing to keep in mind.

by Mike (Embrey), Mountain Holler, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:53 (5341 days ago) @ Dylan

Other than the turnovers, losses, hostage situations, and deaths, things aren't that bad.

I don't know what the long view is

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:08 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

I think that's really a person-to-person decision. For me, the backward evolution that each of the last three coaches "accomplished" during their respective tenures (and that recognizes what was a 2-year forward evolution and then huge regression to end up net negative under Weis) combined with the university's lack of progress on many fronts until the past 3-4 years (Gug, training table, etc.) tells me that we need a real cleansing of the program that might take 5 years. But I won't harshly judge somebody who may think the turnaround should be done in a shorter period of time.

Scratch this year

by Geoff, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:07 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Next year's schedule is too bizarre (I think some fan created the schedule on EA Sports NCAA video game, and then convinced Swarbrick to make it happen).

Do we have to wait until 2013 to expect any success at a high level?

Maybe I should just watch episodes of Night Court during Saturday afternoons in the Fall until then.

Did we just create a Notre Dame support group?

by Jim (fisherj08) @, A Samoan kid's laptop, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:49 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Is that what this board was all along?

Can this be our logo?

by NDTerp, I am not Jay. I never have been Jay., Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:06 (5341 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)

[image]

when you say you feel "trapped" in a man's body

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:40 (5341 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)

what do you mean?

Appropriately, led by Tobias Funke, Analrapist.

by Bryan (IrishCavan), Howth Castle and Environs, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:31 (5341 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)

- No text -

And how does that make you feel?

by Chris (HCC) @, Paradise, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:06 (5341 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)

- No text -

Similar situation here

by irishvol @, Music City, USA, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:48 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

The wife and boy went to bed on Saturday, thinking Bad Notre Dame Daddy would finally be in a good mood on an Autumn morning. After all, it was 24-7...

On Monday, I got into it with a couple guys at the office. "I've never seen you this passionate and riled up about something," a bystander observed.

On Saturday, my son will turn 1. We'll have 20-25 family and friends over at the house to celebrate and watch football. Many of them are Tennessee fans/alums. I don't think I've ever said "Man, I'm thrilled that the Tennessee game will be on at the same time as ND so that I don't have to watch it."

I might say it this weekend.

Of course, like an addict who doesn't know when to quit, I'm sure I'll be sneaking away to catch parts of the game. And I'll then be a cranky, immature jerk to someone after we blow it then feel crappy about it later on. Groundhog Day...

What bothers me the most..

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:14 (5341 days ago) @ irishvol

..is that I fully expect for ND to get their doors blown off this weekend. State will punch us in the mouth and we will curl up in the fetal position. Maybe some day that will change, but I don't expect it to be this coming Saturday.

The internal battle I'm fighting right now is a real bitch.

by Chris, Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:56 (5341 days ago) @ irishvol

Watch or don't.

Sunday morning the plan was to take the wife and girls to the NC Zoo after their 8am soccer game and make a day of it. I'd set the DVR and get to it whenever.
Now it's supposed to be low 60s and rain so that's probably out.

Text convo with my friend Sat. (WARNING LANG)

by Bingo @, Fort Wayne, IN, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:33 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Him - "Man watching ND football is a rollercoaster"

Me - "If at the end of that rollercoaster I get f***ed in the a**, then I agree"

I don't know what the hell kind of amusement parks you go to

by Chris (HCC) @, Paradise, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:38 (5341 days ago) @ Bingo

- No text -

Why, Tongziland, of course!

by Joe I @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:55 (5341 days ago) @ Chris (HCC)

There are so many questions that I have

by Jim (fisherj08) @, A Samoan kid's laptop, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:59 (5341 days ago) @ Joe I

That I'm just not sure I want answered.

I'm so messed up...

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:33 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

I can't watch this week's MSU game live. Just can't. I've lost perspective and am considering going "cold turkey" on all Notre Dame to get it back. Certainly, I'm going to DVR it, and go with the kids to watch the Redcoat Band, and Georgia beat up on Coastal Carolina on Saturday afternoon.

I'll decide later on Saturday night if my psyche can handle Notre Dame.

Overall, this board makes me feel less alone in my situation and a little better about myself...

You're not alone.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:35 (5341 days ago) @ PMan

Oh, Lord in Heaven, you are not alone.

I'm DVR'ing it and going outside.

by NDTerp, I am not Jay. I never have been Jay., Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:03 (5341 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

1. Its the first week in probably a month that it hasn't been a monsoon here and

2. I'm going golfing, because if I want to ow my balls, I'll do it to myself with my shitty golf-play than watch us piss away another one.

I'm beginning to think my roommate might have been right

by KelleyCook @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:29 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

A few years ago he declared:

I'm already too stressed, so I'm no longer going to allow my autumn demeanor be influenced by a bunch of 300 pound freak-of-nature 20 year olds.

And he stopped following ND football.

There are a variety of ways to approach this

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:36 (5341 days ago) @ KelleyCook
edited by Greg, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:45

Turning from a rabid fan whose heart feels like it is going to explode and who sweats like a monkey on acid throughout the 4th quarter of the Michigan game to a fan who follows the team and enjoys the games but who doesn't let his health deteriorate because of it is one.

Remaining rabid and calling for firings/changes is another.

Remaining rabid and looking for hope is another.

Becoming less rabid and calling for firings/change is another.

Becoming less rabid and looking for hope is another.

Ceasing following ND altogether is another.

While I don't make value judgments about any of these, I guess that by the first option you have some picture of what my Saturday night was like and where I'm heading. I don't want to feel that way again, regardless of whether that makes me "less of an alum/fan" to any of you or any of my friends in the non-interwebs world. So as I said to some friends elsewhere, I've looked to other people in my life who are big sports fans but who don't live and (almost literally, it seemed for a while there) die with their teams. And I've changed. But I still have great hope for this year's team and for ND in general.

I keep reminding myself that this is supposed to be fun.

Everyone should just blog about it.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:42 (5341 days ago) @ Greg

It's cathartic.

Plus you get to delve into more analytical matters. One more loss and I'll be entirely dispassionate about the season. Hey, look at that, we lost to Tulsa, and here are the numbers that explain why.

It's quite freeing.

--
Sometimes I rhyme slow sometimes I rhyme quick.

Sweet, can I have a guest spot?

by Joe ⌂ @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:18 (5341 days ago) @ domer.mq

I'll be HLS' ND CHOO CHOO style stream-of-consciousness poster.

Yes.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:47 (5341 days ago) @ Joe

Just e-mail me.

--
Sometimes I rhyme slow sometimes I rhyme quick.

You know what I did after the game?

by Mike (Embrey), Mountain Holler, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:03 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

I decided that to take my mind off things I'd watch Paradise Lost. WTF? Was my subconscious saying, "Hey, we need to change the dynamic here, let's watch a doc about children murdered in the Arkansas backwoods!"?

Except I was much too drunk to actually pay attention, so I had to put it on again Monday night.

Thank God they made a sequel. Now I've got Paradise Lost 2 in my back pocket for the next Saturday night debacle. Probably make it a double-feature with Sophie's Choice.

I put on -- no kidding --

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:07 (5341 days ago) @ Mike (Embrey)

"Panic in Needle Park." I had started it a few nights before and thought, now's a good a time as ever to finish it.

Great flick, btw. Had never seen it. I'm filling in the blanks on my 70s grit.

I watched a season of Breaking Bad

by Jim (fisherj08) @, A Samoan kid's laptop, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:17 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

Starting around Midnight Saturday, finished up Sunday night.

I watched Blue Valentine.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:40 (5341 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)
edited by KGB, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:01

The game was worse.

I'd watch the original My Bloody Valentine if I could.

by Chris, Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:42 (5341 days ago) @ KGB

It would probably be a laughfest compared to Saturday night.

Wait, I don't remember texting you!

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 07:54 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

I must have blacked out from rage/depression...

Look at you

by Mike (bart), Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 07:48 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

(never mind the giant dog, I don't know what that's about


I had the same conversation

by Jeff (BGS) @, A starter home in suburban Tempe, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 07:40 (5341 days ago) @ Jay

You know it is bad when you are up at 3am writing e-mails and people respond immediately.

The only way I could distract myself was to look at Walker's birthday pictures (which was also on Saturday) and try to put football out of my mind. It only barely worked.

No way would I be up at 3 AM answering e-mails.

by Joe ⌂ @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 07:42 (5341 days ago) @ Jeff (BGS)

I had drank myself to insensibility by then.

I made it to 1:30 AM central time.

by Silk, St. Louis, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:26 (5341 days ago) @ Joe

I woke up the next morning on my couch. My wife and daughter were unimpressed.

I'm glad to know others were feeling the same way I was. That makes me feel less...obsessed or something.

I try that rationale on my wife

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 12:54 (5341 days ago) @ Silk

"Yes, honey, I'm sick, but you have no idea how many other sickos are out there!"

Never works.

Oh you definitely weren't alone.

by Chris, Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 08:33 (5341 days ago) @ Silk

A 90 minute walk did little to clear my head.

On an hour-long drive home that night

by Kevin @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:08 (5341 days ago) @ Chris

after 30 minutes of dead silence, one of the guys in the car ventured, "this isn't that big of a deal. It's just college football."

I replied, in a tone he later said was "soulless": "I am going to strangle everyone in this car with my belt."

The next 25 minutes were also silent.

It was rough, because my wife had company over.

by Joe ⌂ @, Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 09:14 (5341 days ago) @ Kevin

It definitely got uncomfortable when I just started drinking whiskey out of the bottle about halfway through the fourth.

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