I'm not trying to be obtuse --
but the guy who scored the goal for England was the "second toucher." Is the distinction that the "second toucher" wasn't offside when the ball was originally kicked but in the Croatia game the guy whose hair got brushed was offside when the ball was first kicked?
If so, I get it.
But does it turn on whether the kick before the "second toucher" was a shot on goal, as opposed to a pass? In England's case, I take it that had it been a pass to the guy who scored the goal he would have been offside, but because he was redirecting a shot and wasn't offside when the shot was taken by the first toucher it's not offside?
If so, I suppose that's no worse a judgment call than whether a defensive back was playing the ball on a PI call.
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Complete thread:
- FU: Either these teams are early for the Eng-Arg rugby match -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 12:30
- Interestingly enough, ENG-ARG rugby a fitting continuation. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2026-07-19, 09:46
- What was that cheer they were doing in the second half? - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-19, 09:50
- Thought this was good, by a British sports psychologist I’ve - Mr. Natural, 2026-07-16, 03:54
- Why wasn't England offside on its goal? -
omahadomer,
2026-07-15, 17:43
- It's about when the ball is played -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 17:54
- FU related - HCE what did you think of the Lamine -
hobbs,
2026-07-15, 18:26
- Thing is, though, a foul in the box has to be a penalty -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 18:46
- Reminded me of the Kane one against Mexico - Greg, 2026-07-16, 08:35
- Fair enough. Your last point is spot on.
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hobbs,
2026-07-15, 19:56
- Thing is, though, a foul in the box has to be a penalty -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 18:46
- OK, that seems sensible, so why was the "hair touching" -
omahadomer,
2026-07-15, 18:19
- That player wasn't the one who was offside -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 18:38
- I'm not trying to be obtuse -- -
omahadomer,
2026-07-15, 19:48
- What matters is a players' position when the ball is played. - ndroman21, 2026-07-16, 09:38
- Intent doesn't matter, so "play" can mean pass or shot - HCE, 2026-07-16, 05:23
- I'm not trying to be obtuse -- -
omahadomer,
2026-07-15, 19:48
- That player wasn't the one who was offside -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 18:38
- FU related - HCE what did you think of the Lamine -
hobbs,
2026-07-15, 18:26
- It's about when the ball is played -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 17:54
- Can complete the triple header this week - HullieAndMikes, 2026-07-15, 14:28
- Far be it for me to question futbol strategy -
hobbs,
2026-07-15, 14:07
- Your naive mind is completely correct - Aaron (Shakespeare), 2026-07-15, 15:41
- Completely agree. - oviedoirish, 2026-07-15, 15:19
- was that the soccer equivalent of 2011 ND/UM?
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HumanRobot,
2026-07-15, 14:16
- Possibly - Greg, 2026-07-15, 14:31
- Prevent defense loses every time - cdawg, 2026-07-15, 14:08
- Tuchel trying to bunker for 35+ minutes... -
PMan,
2026-07-15, 14:04
- They forgot they weren’t playing Mexico - Jack, 2026-07-15, 14:12
- “Coming Home” makes “The Odyssey” seem like a decent commute
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Flann,
2026-07-15, 14:12
- HCE, the moment has arrived where you -
hobbs,
2026-07-15, 13:55
- Messi, I believe; help my unbelief! -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 14:42
- Concur.
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hobbs,
2026-07-15, 15:04
- Concur.
- Messi, I believe; help my unbelief! -
HCE,
2026-07-15, 14:42
- as a non-soccer fan and having no real rooting interest -
HumanRobot,
2026-07-15, 13:53
- same. Argentina has been fun to follow!
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Grantland,
2026-07-15, 13:54
- same. Argentina has been fun to follow!
- viveza criolla
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Grantland,
2026-07-15, 13:50
- First half was ugly, second half has been great (as of 70')
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Aaron (Shakespeare),
2026-07-15, 13:33
- Interestingly enough, ENG-ARG rugby a fitting continuation. -
ReginaldVelJohnson,
2026-07-19, 09:46