Alan Shipnuck: Phil Mickelson’s Long History of Misconduct

by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 06:44 (24 days ago)

Not a golfer myself but Mickelson is a local guy and there have long been stories about him.

https://www.skratch.golf/news/pro-golf/phil-mickelson-misconduct-women-madison-club-bri...

Sorta piling on, but I marshalled the '03 Open at Shinnecock

by cdawg, Monday, June 29, 2026, 11:28 (22 days ago) @ hobbs

Phil was insufferable during the practice rounds. Everything was about the money they
had wagered within his foursome. He loudly proclaimed it every time I was anywhere near him.

Talked to a few players and they brought up, unsolicited, that they didn't care for him.

His dad was a big issue too, but it was only things I heard 2nd, 3rd hand.

Evidently he has exclusive rights, or did, to sell those periscopes spectators use.

Lastly, Henrik Stenson did yoga at every tee and that Viking can put himself into a pretzel. We were all like, what just happened here? Big time athletes are just different.

Somethat OT, but: I hate Shinnecock on TV.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Monday, June 29, 2026, 11:46 (22 days ago) @ cdawg

I'm sure it's a beautiful course and it's clearly up to being a US Open test for the players, but on TV every hole is basically indistinguishable from one another. It really detracts from watching golf on TV b/c you can't kind of think about a player's position on the leaderboard and what they've got coming up ahead. It's weird b/c even with St Andrews and Carnoustie there's holes and aspects you kind of use in your head to think thru the dynamics of the tournament.

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Watch the Bryan Bros play it on YouTube

by terribletr, Monday, June 29, 2026, 18:47 (22 days ago) @ domer.mq

You get a much better feel for it. It’s a special and difficult course.

You're 100% right. It's not a great course either IMO

by cdawg, Monday, June 29, 2026, 15:17 (22 days ago) @ domer.mq

There's so many downhill shots back up to a Weathertop style green, it just has strange sightlines. It's also a PITA to get to. I think Bethpage had like 5x the attendance numbers and that save you an hour plus of driving. Heck, it could be 2 with traffic.

There's many other great courses in the Tri State area that the USGA should go to before Shinnecock, but money talks and that's old money right there.

What a douche.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Monday, June 29, 2026, 05:51 (22 days ago) @ hobbs

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He and Tiger have long hated each other --

by omahadomer, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 18:58 (23 days ago) @ hobbs

though not over stuff in this article.

I remember when Tiger announced he wasn't going to go back to Stanford for his (junior?) year and was going to play his way onto the PGA tournament in 7 sponsors' invites.

Mickelson said dismissively when asked about whether it was a good idea that "well he doesn't have a PGA card." All Tiger had to do was to play his way into the top 125 which he quickly did winning at least one tournament.

I thought "oh boy, this is gonna be something."

They tried to have a sort of Jack and Arnie routine but it never really came off. They played in those "matches" and did other stuff but they hated each other.

Tiger started winning majors right away (notably his huge win at the Master's in 1997) and it took Phil forever.

Tiger was dismissive of Phil because he thought Phil had more ability than anyone but didn't put in the work and constantly took crazy chances that cost him tournaments.

When Tiger got "outed" in the Thanksgiving debacle it is said that is scared Phil straight for a bit. The story I got (from a Korn-Ferry player so take it fwiw) is that Tiger had two phones and was going to play poker with Barkley and some others and took the wrong phone. His phone kept ringing at home and his wife picked it up and it was these sweet young things who had been trained to say they were from IMG. After about 6 phone calls from "IMG girls" it didn't take long for her to figure out what was going on. She reportedly smashed the f*ck out of his trophies and then went after him and his car when he got back home.

Phil has imo fewer excuses. He clearly has an addictive personality that he can't or won't control. How else does one suffer $70 million in gambling losses in a year? But he's had a wife who has put up with him through all of this.

Tiger had more scrutiny on him than anyone since Michael Jordan and his "team" built him a too-safe bubble.

They're both sort of tragic figures.

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Pairing Tiger and Phil in the Ryder was one heck of

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Monday, June 29, 2026, 10:47 (22 days ago) @ omahadomer

a choice by a few different captains. I mean, WTF.

Pretty sure it was just Hal Sutton who tried that

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Monday, June 29, 2026, 11:36 (22 days ago) @ BillyGoat

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It was

by terribletr, Monday, June 29, 2026, 12:53 (22 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

He made a bad choice but Phil was the one who changed balls and didn’t tell anyone. He is a turd and will have earned his ignominious fall.

I’ve heard Amy is a very kind woman

by San Pedro @, Monday, June 29, 2026, 05:37 (23 days ago) @ omahadomer

Who loves to gamble just as much as Phil.

I absolutely idolized him in HS.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 12:16 (24 days ago) @ hobbs

He wasn't and isn't all that much older than me, but he won so young and was such a young star. I met his wife at Harbor Town and she was very nice. Now they both just seem awful. Always a bummer when you really know your heroes.

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I’d amend that last line

by Jack @, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 15:08 (23 days ago) @ domer.mq
edited by Jack, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 15:13

“when your heroes turn out to be jerks.”

There are sometimes the opposite, people you like from afar who you find out really are good people.

But yeah, I used to like Phil. Now I actively root against him.

The fact that he's gone Elon Musk fanboy/MAGA while

by ReginaldVelJohnson @, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 18:18 (24 days ago) @ domer.mq

also selling out for Saudi oil money really crystallized the public heel-turn.

All those fit together when you think about it

by Jack @, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 15:31 (23 days ago) @ ReginaldVelJohnson

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LaFun’s and my grandfather hated him before it was cool

by Kumar, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 17:23 (24 days ago) @ domer.mq

Our dad’s dad, whom otherwise I never heard curse worse than “damn”, didn’t like Mickelson’s “shit eating grin.”

For the longest time, we thought this was hilarious. How can you not like Phil? Especially after the Payne Stewart “you’re going to be a great dad” US Open comment.

Clearly, Grampie knew what he was talking about.

That said a lot more about Payne Stewart as a good guy

by Jack @, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 15:24 (23 days ago) @ Kumar
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than Mickelson.

I’m happy to say in retrospect I was rooting for Stewart to win that U.S. Open.

Kind of ironic...

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 08:22 (23 days ago) @ Kumar

given that reportedly his wife was really coaching him up to "smile more" when he was working to finally win a major.

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Had friends who knew him in…

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 13:09 (24 days ago) @ domer.mq

HS at Uni in San Diego, and said he was a narcissistic jerk, especially to girls, then.

Met Phil once as teenagers through a then-friend I played soccer with who went on to become a tour pro; won’t name him because he still teaches golf in San Diego.

I never cared for him.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 12:52 (24 days ago) @ domer.mq
edited by KGB, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 15:11

Always felt like he was a phony. And who knows -- he may have been a legitimately decent man for a while, but the heavy gambling stuff hinted at some demons underneath all of that. Undoubtedly, this has curdled over time and he's now just another extremely rich & powerful person who has used his status to fuck over a variety of 'lessers' in a variety of ways.

It's important that we still have outlets to speak truth to power and call people what they are, all the way to the very top. Wish more Americans cared as much about the behavior of their "public servants" as they do their heroes.

Same, but for stupider reasons

by Dylan, Sunday, June 28, 2026, 06:38 (23 days ago) @ KGB

It's that skinny Rolex that's been strangling his wrist for 35 years. Same thing with Trump. Get a watch that fits, bozo.

One doesn't have to look far

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 16:23 (24 days ago) @ KGB
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To see that there are a number of very vocal clowns online attacking Shipnuck (the reporter). Not surprising that many of these clowns are big LIV bros.

Also, there's probably a very, very large number of people reading this and shrugging their shoulders. Or even rooting him on. A famous athlete cheating on his wife on the regular, keeping a bachelor pad above the grill/bar of his posh country club, gambling on everything left right and center? Sounds great! Where do I sign?

Years ago, this would have meant the end of his public and professional life. Now? He should probably run for President.

It's precisely why Trump has a predilection

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 16:33 (24 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)
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to reflexively support criminals, cheaters, scumbags in general. He can naturally relate, and they make him feel better about who he is and the decisions he's made over & over throughout his life. Because he's human garbage.

Jon Stewart did a rather prescient bit in a comedy show probably 20 years ago that is more true than ever. Basically that we should want people to represent us who are BETTER than we are. Smarter, more accomplished, etc. Why wouldn't you want the best of the best in charge of running the country? Why is this such a hangup for Americans?

Over time, this has evolved into a situation in which a sizeable percentage of our citizens feel "shown up" by people who are deemed experts in a certain arena and so they instead vote for dullards like them who have zero training or expertise. Social media has tapped into an underlying insecurity in our populace that wants to reject experts in favor of "outsiders". Until it's time to fly the fucking plane you're on or remove your gallbladder, and then suddenly we care very much about how many times you've done that before versus "conducting your own research" on YouTube.

I love this Mencken quote:

by oviedoirish @, Oviedo, Florida, Monday, June 29, 2026, 05:20 (23 days ago) @ KGB

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe

Always seemed like the fans generally liked him

by Chris, Raleigh, NC, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 14:48 (24 days ago) @ KGB

But the players didn’t.

Because clearly they saw consistently the asshole that he was.

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One of my big turnoffs

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Saturday, June 27, 2026, 15:42 (24 days ago) @ Chris

was that there seemed to be a segment of his early fandom based largely on how attractive his wife was. Which is honestly the dumbest shit I've ever heard, and it gets dumber with each passing year.

Anyone who has ever attended even a garden-variety PGA tour event knows the level of talent that walks the grounds. Any semi-functioning being playing at that level can land a very attractive sex worker/gf/wife. It's not in any way a differentiating factor. I'm not trying to be crude, but c'mon now.

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