Oh, I probably agree with you ultimately
Which is why you don’t go to war in the first place.
And I’m glad nobody else will die for this moron’s imprudence, vanity and impulsivity. There’s a good reason a lot of very smart people didn’t want to go to war with Iran and why it took a special kind of idiot before it would happen.
But in terms of negotiations, you have to get more than a promise to try to try on the nuclear program, even if it means you have to take some additional painful steps to put yourself in a better negotiating position. This is where the taco/coward in Trump comes into play. He’s all hardo when the missiles are flying and the flag is waving and the boys are dropping sorties, but when pressed he becomes a scared little boy. Maybe that’s for the best, but given the choice between being dumb and scared, it’s hard to choose both.
Complete thread:
- The terms of the US's surrender in the Iran war are stark. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 09:03
- We are in "Imperial Overstretch" -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-20, 08:37
- He would have done better to just skulk away. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-20, 19:36
- We tried that. -
nedhead,
2026-06-21, 01:11
- Which is the case right now.
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domer.mq,
2026-06-21, 13:53
- Sustainable for months, probably not longer. - nedhead, 2026-06-21, 14:38
- I’m surprised that anyone thinks this likely would’ve all -
Joe I,
2026-06-21, 14:20
- I thought it would go badly -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-21, 21:10
- Hegseth’s biggest challenge isn’t his IQ -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 07:42
- he was in my cousin’s platoon in Iraq -
Jay,
2026-06-22, 10:53
- Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant at Arms.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-23, 16:09
- Wouldn't he be more like Stratton?
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nedhead,
2026-06-23, 17:31
- Wouldn't he be more like Stratton?
- I think we all take your meaning.
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NDinVA,
2026-06-23, 15:02
- Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant at Arms.
- I rate his Ivy-intelligence score at 0.87 DeSantis
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KGB,
2026-06-22, 09:32
- One of the beauties of grad school is meeting Ivy Leaguers -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 10:19
- One of the beauties of meeting Ivy League law grads - omahadomer, 2026-06-22, 18:03
- One of the beauties of grad school is meeting Ivy Leaguers -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 10:19
- he was in my cousin’s platoon in Iraq -
Jay,
2026-06-22, 10:53
- Hegseth’s biggest challenge isn’t his IQ -
atxND,
2026-06-22, 07:42
- I thought it would go badly -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-21, 21:10
- Which is the case right now.
- We tried that. -
nedhead,
2026-06-21, 01:11
- He would have done better to just skulk away. -
domer.mq,
2026-06-20, 19:36
- Are these two paragraphs distinguishing energy v. weapons? - Grantland, 2026-06-19, 06:16
- Sounds like they went easy on us - fightinamish, 2026-06-18, 19:51
- I heard someone describe it as late-empire rome - MattG, 2026-06-18, 12:33
- What a joke! - oviedoirish, 2026-06-18, 12:32
- What does the $300B buy us? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 09:41
- I'd like to know exactly WHOSE $300Billion that is.
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BillyGoat,
2026-06-19, 09:12
- Mine. Yours. And everyone else's.
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Chris,
2026-06-19, 10:10
- Just think though, Musk cold give $300 billion to Iran -
NDinVA,
2026-06-19, 18:56
- Then he could yank the SEC around a little bit - Regular Joseph, 2026-06-19, 21:07
- Just think though, Musk cold give $300 billion to Iran -
NDinVA,
2026-06-19, 18:56
- Me too.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-19, 09:15
- Mine. Yours. And everyone else's.
- Some GOP nitwit used the term "Peace in our time" - Jack, 2026-06-19, 09:03
- If someone has their knee on your neck - atxND, 2026-06-18, 19:08
- Peace? -
nedhead,
2026-06-18, 18:37
- Don’t pull the thang out unless you plan to bang -
atxND,
2026-06-19, 19:47
- fight the civil war until -
Regular Joseph,
2026-06-19, 21:21
- Oh, I probably agree with you ultimately - atxND, 2026-06-20, 06:33
- fight the civil war until -
Regular Joseph,
2026-06-19, 21:21
- The better alternative... -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 19:50
- Sure, but we can't go back in time.
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nedhead,
2026-06-18, 19:52
- Was Hiroshima a tolerable outcome for Japan -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 05:34
- I don't understand this line of argument. -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 06:07
- The reparations paid would be obscene -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 11:17
- Would you rather try to keep the cease fire indefinitely, -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 15:43
- I would rather that the inflamed hemorrhoid in charge - KGB, 2026-06-19, 16:32
- He’s already started his Throw JD Vance Under the Bus tour - Joe I, 2026-06-19, 14:42
- Would you rather try to keep the cease fire indefinitely, -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 15:43
- The reparations paid would be obscene -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 11:17
- I don't understand this line of argument. -
nedhead,
2026-06-19, 06:07
- Was Hiroshima a tolerable outcome for Japan -
KGB,
2026-06-19, 05:34
- Sure, but we can't go back in time.
- Don’t pull the thang out unless you plan to bang -
atxND,
2026-06-19, 19:47
- It buys us Trump’s attempt at development deals - Joe I, 2026-06-18, 12:21
- Its helps secure Iran’s new young extremist leader. -
Mark,
2026-06-18, 10:00
- This doesn’t address my question.
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San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:19
- This doesn’t address my question.
- It buys us not having our Oil reserves go to 0 next month.
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domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 09:53
- Our oil reserves are nearly empty? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:18
- as I have learned recently, it's a complex question -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 12:29
- I guess taking over Venezuela - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2026-06-18, 12:54
- as I have learned recently, it's a complex question -
domer.mq,
2026-06-18, 12:29
- Our oil reserves are nearly empty? -
San Pedro,
2026-06-18, 12:18
- I'd like to know exactly WHOSE $300Billion that is.
- We are in "Imperial Overstretch" -- -
omahadomer,
2026-06-20, 08:37