3rd straight World Cup without the 4-time world champions.

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Tuesday, March 31, 2026, 14:39 (114 days ago)

Czechia, Sweden, and Turkiye join Bosnia-Herzegovina at the Finals.

How do the Azurri miss the WC 3 consecutive times?

by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Tuesday, March 31, 2026, 19:41 (114 days ago) @ PMan

They have the talent and resources to ALMOST be auto-qualifiers. For them to whiff completely 3 straight times is almost unthinkable.

Italian futbol isn't what it used to be

by HCE, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 10:00 (113 days ago) @ hobbs

Both the Azzurri and Serie A have been declining for almost 20 years now, and while they probably should have qualified this time, particularly given how diluted the 26 field is, nothing about this result is really that surprising.

Personally, I've disliked the Azzurri since long before that 2006 group stage match, which only made me like them less, so I'm not shedding any tears over Italia's absence. Still, this is the kind of sporting disaster that puts our bad international break in perspective.

Thanks for the overview.

by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 11:22 (113 days ago) @ HCE

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Their style of play is awful to watch. Glad they’re out.

by San Pedro @, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 05:04 (114 days ago) @ hobbs

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Yeah, the Italians don't exactly play "the beautiful game"

by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:35 (113 days ago) @ San Pedro

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My company's HQ is in Sarajevo

by Tim, Chicago, IL, Tuesday, March 31, 2026, 17:46 (114 days ago) @ PMan

I've been there 5-6 times over the last couple of years, and I'm heading back again in a couple of weeks. My friends and colleagues are over the moon.

Slight hijack. Any travel experience on the board for

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 07:41 (113 days ago) @ Tim

Croatia?

get on a boat

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 12:44 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

Our group did a charter through this outfit out of Dubrovnik and it was awesome. They pick you up right at the old town dock.

https://dubrovnikboatandyacht.com/

They have different size vessels and excursions. Our group of 10 did a full day with multiple stops to swim in coves, with a lunch stop at a restaurant on the small island of Lopud.

We did our honeymoon in Croatia

by ndbk32 @, Los Angeles, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 10:17 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

This was September 2012, so things may have changed. I'll share our rough route with comments.

Zagreb: We did maybe 2 nights here. It's a lovely city with plenty to enjoy, but probably not the highlight of the country. Enjoy the museums, the culture, having a lager at a sidewalk cafe, etc.

We then drove up to Slovenia. Ljubljana is only about 2 hours by car from Zagreb. Easy drive. Ljubljana was amazing. And from there, Lake Bled is less than an hour. Alpine scenery and food. Gorgeous. I highly recommend Slovenia if you can squeeze it in.

We then drove back down into Croatia and around the Istrian Peninsula. Porec-Rovinj-Pula. Porec was great. Rovinj enchanted us. If you like truffles and/or olive oil, you can gorge yourself on either along this route. Pula is also nice a bit further south on the peninsula.

From there we drove to Plitvice Lakes National Park. Magical (and easy) hiking there with a million streams and waterfalls. Gorgeous. We stayed at a small inn in Plitvice for a night. Excellent.

Then we headed down to Hvar/Split. Hvar is a beautiful and fun island, depending on the time of year. It might get a bit crowded at height of summer and has gotten a reputation as a party island certain times of year. Otherwise it felt the most "vacationy" of all the places we went, i.e. the place to have a spa day and enjoy the sunset. There's some good wine tasting as well. We only stayed in Split for 1 night, so I don't have a ton to say about it. Nothing negative, though.

Then Dubrovnik. Easily the most captivating and interesting city of the lot. But, again, it's an issue of crowds. The famous picturesque part is a walled city which can get overloaded easily. When all the cruise ships dock and unload it's too much. So be mindful of timing (of day, and of year) to get the most out of it. I can't remember any specific restaurants or cafes. Nearly everything was good. I remember copious amounts of seafood risotto and gelato.

And from there it's easy to drive down to Bosnia and/or Montenegro. The only thing I did in Bosnia was stop to take a leak on way to Montenegro, so I don't have anything valuable to offer. Much like I said to the Bosnians. Feels like I might have short-changed them.

Anyway, long post light on specific recommendations I realize. But maybe some of these city/area mentions help.

re: Dubrovnik, worth a visit, but need only a day

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 12:51 (113 days ago) @ ndbk32

The old town is gorgeous, although it feels like a themed section of Disneyland, and seems to live only for tourists. But the walk on the walls surrounding the city is fantastic, and there’s a cable car up the hill with a pretty good bar and restaurant at the top (need a reservation, both for a table and the lift). I would put Dubrovnik on your itinerary but no need to stay within the walls.

Many people I know have been to Croatia and Bosnia

by Jack @, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 09:41 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

I have not, but it's on my list.

My brother and three sisters have been to Croatia and my ND roommate to Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro. They all rave about it, particulary Dubrovnik and Split, but also the countryside is beautiful, especially along the Adriatic coast. Zagreb they said was interesting for a day or two (max), very heavy architectural influence from the Austro-Hungarian Empire. But it would be on the cut list versus the coastal towns.

My roommate said Bosnia was fascinating, and Sarajevo and in particular Mostar were well worth it. They said the Montenegro coast was absolutely spectacular, with cliffs, fjords and beautiful towns.

The other thing they said was Croatia is cheap, and Bosnia is dirt cheap. That was like my experience in Budapest, where a meal costs half (or less) than the same meal in Vienna.

My 82-83 year old parents did a bicycle tour through Croatia

by Grantland, y'allywood, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:16 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

a year or two ago.

Any specific questions? I'll ask.

A few...

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:21 (113 days ago) @ Grantland

But mostly, "Holy $hit, what did you do between 50 and 82 to be able to do that???"

My questions are more general insight into traveling in the country. Must-sees and whatnot.

They probably did bike tours

by Jack @, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 09:46 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

My brother and two sisters do that regularly, in fact my brother (who is 69, ND class of '78) and sister-in-law are finishing up a bike tour of Vietnam and Cambodia as I type this. And they biked in Croatia two or three years ago. Me, I don't bike. Kinda wish I did, but . . . I do walk a lot.

In fairness, the bikes usually have a small motor

by Grantland, y'allywood, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 09:50 (113 days ago) @ Jack

but they said they pedaled alot.

Okay, I have asked.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:22 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

She is in car right now but will let me know and I'll post. I know they ate a lot of fish!

They have always taken great care of their bodies. Dad used to run marathons. Did a 2:49 to qualify for Boston when he was 37.

Well that's impressive

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:18 (113 days ago) @ Grantland

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I am certain to die before them.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 08:20 (113 days ago) @ BPH

It's not the age its the mileage. This old body got some miles on it.

My experience there is a single day in Dubrovnik, sadly.

by Tim, Chicago, IL, Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 07:47 (113 days ago) @ BillyGoat

Most of my Balkans time has been spent in Sarajevo, Belgrade, and Novi Sad. Trying to get to our Skopje office soon.

Dubrovnik is awesome, though. Need to go back.

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