I haven’t seen One Battle After Another

by Jack @, Sunday, March 15, 2026, 21:11 (75 days ago)

I’m interested in the opinions of you cognoscenti types. Is it worthy?

Dune 3 trailer is out!

by MattG, Tuesday, March 17, 2026, 15:30 (73 days ago) @ Jack

https://youtu.be/3O6DdyhFtQk?si=Loi1RWVfGu0tReFP


They should just retroactively give Dune 2 this year's best picture. I know that the story starts to go a little haywire here, but MAN Villaneuve knows how to put together a movie trailer.

Also, it's kind of strange how they said Dune was unfilmable for like 60 years and audiences would never go for it, and then Denis made it look insanely easy and it was a massive hit and everyone loved it.

This is gonna make another half-billion and they're gonna beg him to make God Emperor and the worm-king and he really should just say no.

I'm sure he could change his mind

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Tuesday, March 17, 2026, 15:56 (73 days ago) @ MattG

But hasn't he already said this is the last one he's making? He's already committed to doing the next Bond movie.

Yes - and also the books get less audience friendly

by MattG, Tuesday, March 17, 2026, 16:16 (73 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

Iirc - This is the last one that’s about Paul, and after this his kid turns into a 100 foot tall worm man god emperor. Less marketable

Those books probe interesting questions

by IrishGuard, Tuesday, March 17, 2026, 17:51 (73 days ago) @ MattG
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around the inevitably destructive nature of technology, the possibility of benevolent autocracy, and the transmission of mythos over time (esp. from the perspective of an observer who doesn't die). Give them to Michael Bay, he'll make that god-man-worm superbadass.

And just think of how he could eventually sex up the Honored Matres!

I don’t get how these movies work so well

by MattG, Wednesday, March 18, 2026, 04:16 (72 days ago) @ IrishGuard

For my entire life I was told Dune is an unfilmable mess. It broke Jodorowsky, and Lynch turned in a repulsive mess of an 80s movie.

Villeneuve turns in two absolutely beautiful box office smashes. I’ll continue to say Dune 2 should have been best picture but I assume the voters are waiting for this one LOTR style and they may not like it.

So what changed? CGI advancements for sure, but Dune’s best moments are practical effects, the worms are still not the most impressive part. Did WE change? Certainly not in our ability to watch slow paced blockbusters.

Was it all casting? Is chalamet such a perfect Atreides that we could not resist? Not to rag on Kyle shanahan but Maybe! We needed a scrawny spoiled prince Paul, instead of the stock hero Paul that Kyle was inevitably going to be in the early eighties. And Rebecca Ferguson and Zendaya and Momoa and Brolin and Saarsgaard and Isaac and Butler were perfectly cast, too - especially compared to their 1984 cast.

Is it just vibes? The entire set design of arakkis and geidi prime and Caladan were better than anything Disney has given us since Endor at least. It was all show-don’t-tell with enough detail to make you just accept that those were lived in places with cultures and history. I think it might just be style and vibes.

I like the movies

by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, March 19, 2026, 12:09 (71 days ago) @ MattG

but you have to admit they are a bit cerebral, cold, and distant. And that might be fine, perfectly manifesting the source material.

However, I don't see the comparables with the hugely entertaining LOTR series, which are full of lovable characters and chock full of humor.

The way I look at it

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Thursday, March 19, 2026, 12:15 (71 days ago) @ Jay

I can always fire up the LOTR movies and they'll bring a smile to my face.

I'm always going to remember, for the rest of my life, the way that it felt to see Dune 2 in IMAX, with sounds associated with the spice miners making my back teeth rattle, and just constantly thinking to myself "how the hell did he do that?"

It was a goddamn incredible spectacle.

"less audience friendly" is a kind way to put it.

by nedhead @, Tuesday, March 17, 2026, 16:43 (73 days ago) @ MattG

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you know what was really good in the show last night

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 17:58 (74 days ago) @ Jack

was the In Memoriam segment, especially Billy Crystal's tribute to Rob Reiner.

I highly recommend it.

by oviedoirish @, Oviedo, Florida, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:35 (74 days ago) @ Jack

Ery relevant too

other BP nominees

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:52 (74 days ago) @ Jack

For as long as I've been going to the movies in my life, 2025 was the year I've seen the fewest BP nominees (4 out of 10).

seen:

* OBAA - already discussing

* Sinners - pretty good story until the vampires came along

* Hamnet - an admirable slog. Buckley is good here but even better in "The Bride!"

* F1 - perfect popcorn movie. No notes.

Who has seen Bugonia, Train Dreams, The Secret Agent, Marty Supreme, Frankenstein, or Sentimental Value, what did you think, and would you recommend?

Notes on all of them

by Mike (Embrey), Mountain Holler, Monday, March 16, 2026, 10:01 (74 days ago) @ Jay

I've seen all ten nominees, and honestly didn't think any of them were actively bad or wholly undeserving.

Bugonia - Weird. Fun. Like most people, I typically enjoy both Plemons and Stone and felt like they delivered here. Good stuff.

F1- Okay, I do think it's a bit odd that this one was nominated, but I agree with your take. It's absolutely a fun popcorn movie. I enjoyed it a lot, despite the plot being very by-the-book. Cars go fast, vroom!

Frankenstein - Fine? Maybe the film I enjoyed the least of this year's nominees, and I probably won't watch it again, but I thought it was a perfectly fine telling of the story.

Hamnet - For 100 minutes I thought this was merely okay. But the final sequence at The Globe Theater really worked for me. I'll grant that using "On the Nature of Daylight" as the music during the climax is almost cheating, but I don't mind being manipulated like that.

Marty Supreme - Will echo KGB's notes; this is basically a spiritual sequel to Uncut Gems. I think Chalamet is terrific, but it's not a movie I'll spend time watching in the future.

One Battle After Another - I think I liked this more than some of the other participants in the thread did, but I understand finding it a bit uneven. I think the chase sequence during the 3rd act is riveting as they speed across the rolling hills. I don't recall seeing a scene quite like that before.

The Secret Agent - Boy I wanted to enjoy this more than I did. Wagner Moura was really good, and I particularly enjoyed the scenes with him and his father-in-law. Overall just okay imo.

Sentimental Value - Great performances. I wish there was a touch more meat on the bone; perhaps a bit more growth from the characters by the end. But the bedroom scene between the sisters hit really hard.

Sinners - My favorite scene of the year is the juke joint music video sequence. I loved that. Saw it twice. Really enjoyed it. Appreciate the discussion on it elsewhere in this thread.

Train Dreams - The movie that will stay with me the longest from 2025. A simple story about a simple man living a simple life. He suffered. He died. He was forgotten. A story about loss and grief - not merely the trauma we experience, but also of the unrealized dreams so many people experience. Dreams that you begin to grasp but slip through your fingers. Hopes that never come to pass. Beautiful.

These are good notes

by bobbywal, Oak Park, Monday, March 16, 2026, 19:12 (74 days ago) @ Mike (Embrey)

Hamnet crushed me at the end. Lot of things wrapped up in there for me. But I thought the movie was really beautiful and I just may be a sucker for Mescal.

I enjoyed both Sinners and One Battle. I'd probably stan more for One Battle - I like PTA generally and thought this was a pretty damn good movie for its time. And, I also really dug into the fatherhood aspect mentioned previously. I will agree that it might not have permanence like a lot of other best pictures. But, I'm hard pressed to figure out which of the movies this year will be that one, even going beyond the nominees.

The music in Sinners was fantastic and I really liked "the" scene. That said, that movie is ambitious in a lot of ways and I struggle with discerning what the overall message was intended to be. All that aside, the coda was really fun.

great note on the Hamnet Globe sequence

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 10:10 (74 days ago) @ Mike (Embrey)

Agree, it really bowled me over too, and made the journey worth it.

Thanks as always for your due diligence on moviegoing! Much appreciated.

FTR I'm not getting any strong vibes from anyone persuading me to take a run at Frankenstein, Marty Supreme, or the Secret Agent. I will definitely check out Train Dreams, Sentimental Value, and Bugonia.

I fell asleep for Frankenstein.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Monday, March 16, 2026, 16:37 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Bugonia is very entertaining.

I am dying to watch Secret Agent. I've heard that's the real best movie of the year. Just waiting for it to pop on a service for which I already pay.

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P.S. see "The Bride!"

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 10:14 (74 days ago) @ Jay

It was astonishing (to me). An amazing work by Maggie G.

We discussed Marty Supreme in an aside

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:22 (74 days ago) @ Jay
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some weeks ago. Safdie's protagonists are always unlikeable sociopaths -- and typically chatterboxes, to make it that much worse -- and it just makes his movies a goddamn chore IMO. I appreciated Chalamet's performance and the craftmanship of faithfully building that 1950's NYC world, but I have zero interest in watching the movie again.

Sinners was really fun for us Irish studies types

by HCE, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:13 (74 days ago) @ Jay
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I've already gotten a conference paper out of it: there's so much to geek out about and play with, particularly once the veil gets pierced and the vampires show up and start dancing to "Rocky Road to Dublin."

I'm no film scholar, and you all know far more about the history and craft of cinema than I do, but give me any excuse to blather about liminality and cultural exchanges between Black and Irish music and I'm a happy man.

that sounds great

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:20 (74 days ago) @ HCE

Do we need vampires to tell that story? (Sorry I'll step off the soapbox now. But all the bloodsucking seemed really superfluous.)

But the vampires are where the Irish stuff comes in

by HCE, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:57 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Not just because Remmick is Irish, or because his bloodsucking utopianism is all Celtic Soul Brothery, but because the film is playing with tropes traceable to Stoker and, to a lesser extent, Le Fanu--Dubliners both--which in turn derive from ancient Celtic tropes, so that the second half of the film is basically Samhainn at the Juke Joint. And that's before we get to the connections you can draw to other, better Irish writers--particularly Yeats, but also Joyce--and the Black and Irish musical rabbit holes one can fall down in search of everyone from Geeshie Wiley to D.K. Gavan.

I don't know if any of that makes it a great movie, but it does make it a fun one for a very particular kind of nerd.

found this explanation much more insightful

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 10:33 (74 days ago) @ HCE

(kidding, great stuff HCE)

https://theonion.com/what-to-know-about-sinners

Sinners, the new movie from Ryan Coogler starring Michael B. Jordan, has received widespread praise from critics and audiences. The Onion shares everything you need to know about the film.

Q: What is Sinners about?

A: America’s inability to discuss its complex racial history without bringing the Irish into things.

Q: Has Sinners broken any box office records?

A: It is the highest-grossing Black Southern gothic vampire horror musical fantasia of 2025.

Q: What are the vampires in the film meant to represent?

A: Werewolves.

Q: Who is the movie for?

A: Anyone who doesn’t want to be left out of conversations for the next three months.

Q: Will Sinners have a sequel?

A: If they can figure out how to get a third Michael B. Jordan on screen, sure.

Q: Are the vampires in the movie real?

A: We’re almost positive they aren’t.

Q: When will Sinners be streaming?

A: It will likely be available on Max in July, you lazy, cheap son of a bitch.

That's great color.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 09:14 (74 days ago) @ HCE

I thought the way that Coogler intertwined the Black and Irish cultural threads, particularly in the music, was one of the best aspects of the movie.

brief "Train Dreams" discussion here:

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:55 (74 days ago) @ Jay

https://bluegraysky.com/forum/index.php?id=575770

I'm biased because it was filmed around here and is about this area.

I knew the producer back in the day-Teddy Schwarzman

by atxND, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:45 (74 days ago) @ PMan

One of the few people in my life where I can recall having an instant and easy rapport. Was only much later that I was told who his father was. He’s put out some really good movies over the years, and he’s easy to root for as a decent and normal enough person relative to a similarly-situated ghoul like David Ellison.

I really liked it.

by San Pedro @, More than 100 feet from Bob Davies, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:07 (74 days ago) @ PMan

Such a beautifully shot film, and Edgerton is hauntingly good. Loved all the little supporting roles that came and went in and out of his life. Agree with Jay that it would be a great film to see in the theater. I saw it at home and was still mesmerized by the Malick style of filming.

Bugonia was great fun. I will watch pretty much anything with Landry from Friday Night Lights, and he was terrific again. The guy is such a chameleon. If you like Emma Stone (I do!), you'll enjoy seeing her throw herself into another delightfully bizarre scenario.

I wish I had caught it on the big screen

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:56 (74 days ago) @ PMan

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Our one art house theatre showed it to packed audiences.

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:01 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Excellent on the big screen since so much thematically is about the landscape and how its used.

Probably the only place in the country sold out shows happened...

I want to open a single screen theater

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:12 (74 days ago) @ PMan

dedicated to "see it on the big screen" movies, with perfect picture and sound. Malick. Kubrick. Lean. Spielberg. Bertolucci. I don't know how profitable it would be but there's an audience out there.

A Cinema Paradiso of sorts?

by Grantland, y'allywood, Wednesday, March 18, 2026, 09:03 (72 days ago) @ Jay

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Funny you mention Malick

by Mike (Embrey), Mountain Holler, Monday, March 16, 2026, 10:15 (74 days ago) @ Jay

While I was watching Train Dreams I couldn't stop thinking about how much like a Terrence Malick movie it felt like. Not that I'm an expert on his work, but I kept thinking, "is this what I was supposed to feel during The Tree of Life?"

Perhaps I should rewatch that one, maybe I just wasn't in the right place in my own life.

I am with those that were unimpressed

by terribletr, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:06 (74 days ago) @ Jack

My wife loved it. Lots of commentary in the movie but I found it mostly uninteresting.

I liked Sinners but this was another year where the best picture nominees will fade into obscurity IMO.

I thought it was uneven.

by San Pedro @, More than 100 feet from Bob Davies, Monday, March 16, 2026, 06:37 (74 days ago) @ Jack

Some really great moments, highlighted by any time Benicio was on screen. I got a kick out of DiCaprio's performance, particularly his frustration with the Gen Z revolutionaries. Penn and Teyana Taylor were ridiculous. It felt like a failed attempt at a Coen brothers absurdity. Neither was believable nor relatable. The mom in particular was a caricature and I was dumbfounded at the amount of praise heaped on Teyana Taylor.

Still worth seeing though.

I loved Sinners, Weapons, and Bugonia. Really good creepy stuff from all of them - Weapons in particular felt like a classic 80s King thriller.

Weapons was one of my favorites

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:28 (74 days ago) @ San Pedro

As you said, old school throwback to Stephen King, but it also gave me the creeps along the lines of Rosemary's Baby.

We really enjoyed it too.

by oviedoirish @, Oviedo, Florida, Monday, March 16, 2026, 16:38 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Really glad Madigan won the Oscar. She was amazing!

Much better than Sinners IMO

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:59 (74 days ago) @ Jay
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First hour of Sinners was strong but then it just sort of devolved into a pretty run-of-the-mill vampire flick. Style over substance.

I thought Weapons was phenomenal. Aside from the creep-out entertainment value, it really tapped into some topical themes about parenting, security and community that landed in a compelling way. That Ring footage of the kids running off into the darkness like airplanes was such a haunting, timely visual.

I went in totally cold

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:05 (74 days ago) @ KGB

What a great movie to watch when you have zero spoilers and zero expectations. Midway through I actually sat up in my seat and said WTF is going on here.

I have major quibbles with the tone shift to absurdity in the climactic scene but up until then it's great.

The POV shifts were a great touch, too.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:12 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Definitely enhanced the story to see how the characters cross paths and overlap with one another. Tremendous little Tarantino lift.

Agree on Sinners. I really liked the opening stretch. I wish

by BillyGoat @, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:04 (74 days ago) @ KGB

the vampire stuff had been more subtle or even just implicit.

I wanted to hear the full story of two brothers

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:07 (74 days ago) @ BillyGoat

opening a juke joint and getting harassed by the KKK. C'mon Ryan why couldn't you have fleshed out that story instead of going all kooky.

It's his Trojan Horse

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:11 (74 days ago) @ Jay

And it worked, given the box office numbers.

Your idea for the story is great too, but I don't think it draws the audience to the points he wanted to make.

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The Color Purple meets from Dusk til Dawn

by San Pedro @, More than 100 feet from Bob Davies, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:09 (74 days ago) @ Jay

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I wasn't impressed

by HCE, Monday, March 16, 2026, 06:25 (74 days ago) @ Jack

It's entertaining enough, I guess, but there's very little there there.

FWIW, I felt much the same about Vineland, the Pynchon novel that "inspired" it.

it's PTA, so it's always worth a look

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 06:17 (74 days ago) @ Jack

I thought it was going great for about 45 minutes and then ran off the road (so to speak). But that's many of his movies.

I never thought it was a worthy BP (it's not even his own best movie), but I'm not too surprised there either. BP has been in a rut for a long time.

I just can never seem to get there with his stuff

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:28 (74 days ago) @ Jay

Quite often it looks pretty, and there are usually some cool sequences (the chase in One Battle was particularly engrossing), but I always find myself wondering why "people who know things" about movies keep urging me to appreciate how great he is.

I think people are enamored with his style and flourishes

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:48 (74 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)
edited by Jay, Monday, March 16, 2026, 07:55

He's a cinema savant and so he loads up his work with all sorts of details and moves and outright homages to other filmmakers, such that if you're a movie buff you catch the reference and reward yourself with a little pat on the back. I find his set pieces pretty fascinating but I don't think he's ever pulled together a complete movie from start to finish. It's interesting that among all his copying of his cinematic heroes, one thing that emerges in all of his work that seems to be truly original is a certain sexual fetishization. Somebody should write a paper on themes of sexual deviancy in PTA. (Or maybe somebody should just ask Maya what's going on with him).

I know this is a very contrarian-douche thing to say

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:06 (74 days ago) @ Jay
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but I don't think PTA has made a movie since Boogie Nights nearly 30 years ago (!?!) that has measured up. There Will Be Blood is the only one that's even in the ballpark IMO.

no, I totally agree

by Jay, San Diego, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:08 (74 days ago) @ KGB

It's possible he shot his wad with that one (sorry).

TWBB has a few absolutely riveting set pieces and a lot of dross.

If anyone other than DDL was playing that role

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Monday, March 16, 2026, 08:31 (74 days ago) @ Jay

I don't think anyone would really talk about TWBB in the same way. Some cool spectacle with the oil fields, etc. but DDL puts that whole project on his shoulders and carries it over the finish line.

I respect Boogie Nights for what it is, but in the end, its a less-interesting Goodfellas in the porn business. Which is exactly what its supposed to be. But I can't get there with putting it in the "masterpiece" category.

Agree on both.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Monday, March 16, 2026, 14:38 (74 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

DDL and the Greenwood score were the best two things about TWBB.

Wouldn't call Boogie Nights a masterpiece either, but it scores extra points with me for evoking that period of time in American culture in a more vivid and genuine way than most movies have been able to portray.

It's excellent.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Monday, March 16, 2026, 05:16 (74 days ago) @ Jack

I think a ton of folks put their own biases and even, maybe, hopes and dreams into the meaning of it, when really the entire thing is making a huge point about the nature of fatherhood - particularly fatherhood for dads of strong young women - while also reflecting some really ugly and some really unexpectedly beautiful things about the country in which we live.

Some folks seem pissed that PTA didn't make some grand statement in his speech last night. I don't think those folks understood the movie at all.

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I watched it on a plane recently.

by nedhead @, Sunday, March 15, 2026, 21:27 (75 days ago) @ Jack

My time would have been better spent staring at the back of the seat, or better yet, watching Dune for the nth time. A total mess, boring and pointless, an implausible story line with outlandish characters who make silly decisions for the point of a plot that takes itself way too seriously. The makings of an impotent left that imagines itself fighting the good fight but is revolutionary only in their own imaginary fantasy land. In a just world, Sean Penn would find his next job welcoming old ladies shopping at Walmart. Benicio del Toro was cool, I guess, but throwing out his life, when he was the guardian of so many, because of a drunk white guy's past in a failed uprising?

Like I said, I'd have preferred watching Dune.

Why do you ask?

I really liked One Battle

by Dallasdomer, Monday, March 16, 2026, 05:14 (74 days ago) @ nedhead

Big time movie stars in Penn and Leo. Hilarious and poignant at times. Sweeping in scope at other times. The Christmas Adventurers Club was an inspired satire on racism. And who hasn’t forgotten their revolution password?

I only saw it and Sinners.

by Silk, St. Louis, Sunday, March 15, 2026, 21:22 (75 days ago) @ Jack

I won’t dive into the reasons beyond my own feeling: I thought Sinners was far more deserving and will stand the test of time in a way One Battle won’t.

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