Let the 2009 ND vs. Opposition Draft Begin... Joe you're up

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We're going to let our kicker handle punts with Mr. Anello tackling the returner the second he touches the ball.

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And now we know what sort of value BGS places on Special Teams. VaTech, they are not.

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Because, yeah. I was going to take him.

Oh, and you've got Havili already. Dang it.

I take Owen Marecic, "one of the best run- blocking fullbacks in the country." Says so on Stanford's website, so it must be true.

And like that, I go from pass-happy to hard-nosed. Bring it.

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Duval Kamara, WR ND.

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We're just picking one for the final round.

Some picked 3 last round because they had 3 slots to fill that no other GM had to fill, so that just made things more efficient. You and I are still "competing" over a 2nd offensive flex guy. Choose wisely.

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Should I toss in an additional pick? I have an Off. Flex position open.

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I think Luck might turn out to be pretty good, but I can certainly see with going with Frazer for writeup purposes. That's what we basically did for Jeshua Anderson. I had no idea WSU has a WR who is a two-time NCAA sprint champ and will only be a junior in the fall.

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I think.

Forcier, Robinson, Sheridan. Yuck.
Cousins, Nichols, Maxwell at MSU. No thanks.
I don't know who is left at BC.
Andrew Luck at Stanford, if he beats out Pritchard?
Lopina at WSU?
Stull and Bostick at Pitt?

Ugly.

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Lots of unproven QBs this year.

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I have the last remaining pick in all three of the positions I still need to draft (2nd Guard, 2nd CB and SS). I am going to be in a cabin in northern Minnesota from today until Sunday so I'm just gonna put my picks in now.

2nd Guard: John Bender, Jr., Nevada
2nd CB: Kris Evans, Sr., Stanford
SS: Dom DeCicco, Jr., Pittsburgh

Great draft, all!

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If I or Rakes take too long for our next turns, you can just skip ahead because we're both a bit busy and we need positions that nobody else needs to fill. Thanks.

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I still need a QB.

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Yep, we just took two Cougs.

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Sorry I dropped from the face of the planet for a bit. A combination of personal and business stuff (some good, some bad) made it impossible to get to a computer for a few days (which is probably mostly good).

Just 2.5 rounds to go! BGS is up!

(Again, sorry)

Edited to correct draft order.

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Sorry. Been having some travel issues the last few days.

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Mike Hicks, OT UCONN, Malcom Smith LB USC

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piece of the draft. Though I think you guys will all find a few high-value types. I'm starting to try to find "special interest" types with interesting backgrounds. Maybe I can find a great WSU walk-on.

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Look at CB. ND has had 3 corners taken. That position is weak everywhere else, even at USC. It's a down year for them.

Look at DT. We had a tough time picking through the trash.

Ditto FS/SS. And even OT.

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this really does seem like a sparse year in terms of opposing QB quality.

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decide among the remaining, untested, inexperienced quarterbacks.

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I think he's 275 or something like that.

I think I'm finding a new way to guess at the success of OL coaches in college based on resume. How many good blind-side tackles have they coached up from "nothing?"

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Alonzo Durham was a DT in high school.
So was Butch Lewis.

Brown is listed as an OT on Rivals, but he was only 249 lbs when he hit the Nike camp.
Marinelli was an OT.
Young and Duncan were OTs.

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Wasn't really tracking that, but it's notable, I think. Granted, he's the 8th of both RT and LTs.

I've been thinking more lately about the discussion somewhere (I think Rock's) about whether very good LTs can usually be found in recruiting, or if they need to be coached up. I've never really given it much thought, but I'm starting to lean towards coaching up.

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but he's ranked so highly by Steele that I couldn't pass him up in this round.

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You're clearly not one of our 5 regular readers.

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out the door to the grocery store.

Thankfully, there are Blackberries.

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My other player had already been chosen -- whoops!

But all is well.

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Sort of surprised Smith lasted this long. I think he could do a lot of damage this year.

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Te'o-Neshein had 8 sacks last year.

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I was hoping that FB Navy had last year was still with the team, but he's graduated.

Rakes is up.

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Kidding.

I think you changed up your pick after initially posting. Might want to double check my work.

Classic is up.

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Shareece Wright, CB USC, Averell Spicer, DT USC

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Sorry, had internet problems. All square now.

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Sorry for the delay. Long day yesterday at a wedding in the Bend and then one of the websites I manage fell down today.

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So glad to see Gerhart still up there.

Tough choices, though. Lots of good players still out there. Right now we have a back but no one to open holes for him.

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by Rakes' picks. Damn.

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take it away!

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So, no big deal.

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1) Yeah, a kicker. I just checked the stats, Top 30 kicker last year, and several other 2009 opponents had higher rated PAT kickers last year, but they were all seniors. Boo Yah!

2) PMan, I'm gonna keep using this thread as a courtesy to the board readers/users who aren't doing the draft, as Jay requested. I hope you don't mind. I know it's a little hard to track. I think you can also get a notification from google each time I update the draft sheet. That might make it easier.

3) Okay, now we're going to start 2 picks per GM turn from the 6th round on. I'll update the sheet to make it track.

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let's move Round 6 to a new thread at the top of the page, perhaps?

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With the start of Round 6 (check the sheet), we'll start doing 2 picks per GM at a time to speed this up a bit. And I'll try to sort out a good time for a Chat-based pick in the meantime to finish it off completely, but I think 2 picks at a time might suffice.

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CB Darrin Walls, Notre Dame

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Real life intruded.

Pick: Ekon Udofia, defensive tackle, Stanford

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It's an internal disciplinary matter, and I will have no further comment on it.

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There's a floating rumor that he was arrested in nantucket over the weekend of the 4th. For starters, I have no idea if this is true, and even if it is whether it will affect his playing time.

http://www.nantucketindependent.com/news/2009/0708/other_news/007.html

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/usc-football-players-everson-griffen-a...

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Joe McKnight, RB, SoCal, largely due to his awesome website.

http://www.joemcknight.org/

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Kevin Basped, DE, Nevada and his 18.5 TFL.

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I select Jeff Byers, G, USC

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And forgot about the serpentine system. Hopefully the way I set it up on the spreadsheet isn't too unacceptable to everyone. I don't think anyone will get the shaft, as we've only got 5 GMs picking, so the talent pool will be pretty deep for everyone.

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I've set up in the spreadsheet. I did say at some point we'd go with serpentine, and then totally forgot. Sorry. Since we're doing 5 GMs, I don't think anyone will be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Sorry about the confusion.

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"Whoever has first pick in the previous round will be rotated to last pick of the next round."

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I thought we were doing a serpentine?

Anyways, I'm taking Sam Young.

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Tim Tebow West might not have God on his side like Tim Tebow East, but he's an Aryan wunderkind.

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Can I get a witness?

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Assuming BGS went Floyd in Rd. 1 and not a skunkbear DE.

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Oh well. Technically Pat wanted Floyd first, I believe. So if we can get him, despite how I typed it (I thought it didn't matter), our fantasy team would be grateful.

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They tipped their hand.

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University of SoCal

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Looks like Rakes is going with the Detroit Lions draft methodology.

And my pick, at #4 is...

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Yeah, I've been away all day out here on the West Coast.

With the third pick I'm gonna take Jake Locker.

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Taylor Mays, safety, Southern California.

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I'll open each round in a new subthread under the first post.

If each GM clicks the E-mail notification checkbox for each of their picks, that'll make it that much easier for you to keep track of the draft.

Thanks.

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are available in the draft. I'll edit the rules.

And that's the same approach I was going to user, Joe. I'm drafting based on putting together a team for 2009. An excellent point. I suppose I should have outlined that before. I'd encourage everyone to approach in the same way.

Thanks.

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The other thing that's knocking around in my mind is the reasoning behind your draft strategy. Instead of treating this like a fantasy football draft (where player values are sometimes misconstrued based upon schedule, scoring, and any number or other variables), I'm treating this as if I'm starting a college football team that will only be active this year -- who do I want my starting lineup to be?

So, I'm considering intangibles while drafting. Are others doing this as well? Or am I the only one?

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If all the draft picks are made as replies here, it shouldn't clutter the rest of the board.

One thing to clarify: the universe of players includes Notre Dame plus all ND opponents, right?

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Jimmy Clausen. The makings are there for a huge year for him.

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Again, sorry for the delay.

This might take a little bit to get some momentum going, but let's just get started.

The link below is to a spreadsheet with rules, draft order, and a sheet I'll use to track picks.

http://bit.ly/sDeRO

So, Joe, you're up with the first pick of the first round. I'll just keep checking the board to usher the progress of the draft.

Also, I was thinking about doing a periodic update of the draft on HLS. Just a list of the GMs and their picks, maybe after each round. No writeups. Just something to get some attention and debate going among readers so that when GMs do write up their thoughts on their picks, we might have some momentum there. If anyone objects, let me know, and I'll refrain.

Thanks.

Joe, when you're ready, please enter your pick under this post. Thanks.

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the Polo Grounds

Wow, really?

Thus endeth the draft.

BGS takes Mike Anello, punt gunner

BGS is up to pick their punter/Mr. Irrelevant, 2009

Well, well done then.

I hope I choose the guy you want.

You're actually up now, 16th and final pick.

16th Round: Joe's up.

I saw some people made all three picks here.

Shaquelle Evans, WR & Louis Bland, LB, WSU

sounds good

I picked the one of most interest to Irish fans.

Rakes have their picks in. domer.mq is up.

I was wondering who you would pick

And, to finish: Zach Frazer, UConn, QB.

Boubacar Cissoko, KR, skunkbears; Ryan Kerrigan, DL, Purdue.

Armando Allen, PR ND, Joe Houston K USC

Pre-emptive strike

Joe's up. Also...

Jon Teague, K Navy and Cierre Wood, ND PR

Thought perhaps you were going with the Wildcat.

15th Round: BGS up.

David Green, P, Stanford & Ryan Tolar, C, Washington

Vai Taua, RB, Nevada as off. flex; Golden Tate, PR.

Classic's up.

Steve Filer, ND LB, Chris Summers, P Purdue.

Kenny Alfred (WSU C) and Jeshua Anderson (WSU WR)

CORRECTION: BGS is up.

Jordan Todman, KR, Jasper Howard, PR (both UConn)...

Let's wrap this up so the rest of the front page can breathe

I think so

is it my turn?

14th Round. Let's finish this thing off

Dontay Moch, DE, Nevada; Brandon Walker, K, ND.

Sergio Brown, S ND, Mike Ragone, TE ND

Joe's up.

Fandango!

BGS takes Rojo (KR) and Juco DT Fangupo from USC

Rich Lapham, RT, BC & Gary Gray, CB and anagram.

Armando Allen, KR and Chris Summers, K, Purdue

13rd Rd. Take it away, Rakes...

Rakes is up to start Lucky Rd. 13 up above.

Ooooooooo-k...

Joe is up. Really getting to the "interchangeable"...

Two safeties- Robert Vaughn, UConn & Will Harris, USC

Christian Tupou, USC, DT & Chima Nwachukwu, WSU, SS

James Aldridge, RB/FB and Martavious Odoms, WR, Michigan

it seems that way for a lot of positions

I'm sure some of it is psychosomatic, but...

Rakes is up.

I think it is a good sign for Tenuta that I can't...

Raeshon McNeil, CB, ND; Chris Rucker, CB, MSU.

Brown is still quite lite.

how many of those guys were recruited as OTs?

Duncan is the 8th tackle taken.

12th Rd., 1st pick goes to Classic...

BGS - Aaron Berry, CB (Pitt) and Paul Duncan, OT (ND)

I waited as long as I could

And pass up on the chance to bring it up in the write up?

I couldn't take Marinelli after his smack talk last year.

Charlie Gantt, TE, MSU & Alex Parsons, OG, USC

Chris Marinelli, OT, Stanford and Joe McKnight, USC, PR

Mike McLaughlin, LB, BC; Kapron Lewis-Moore, DL, ND.

Sorry 'bout that -- had to rush that pick as I was heading

Joe's takes Golden Tate as KR. Classic is up.

Yeah. Byham is already taken.

Byham went to Classic in the 9th round

Dan Rowlands, OG WASU, Nate Byham TE Pitt

I did.

Harrison Smith is a steal here - nice get

11th Rd, 1st pick goes to Joe.

Closing Rd 10: Harrison Smith, S & Clinton Snyder, LB, SU

Mick Williams, DT, Pitt and Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, DE, UW

Was hoping Navy guys would get drafted. Rakes is up.

Bobby Doyle, RB, Navy; Jeff Battipaglia, OT, Navy.

Why do you think I jumped on P and K so early?

This is getting tough.

Joe is up with picks 68 & 69.

BGS selects Mike Martin, UM DT and Ronald Johnson, USC WR