Let the 2009 ND vs. Opposition Draft Begin... Joe you're up

Again, sorry for the delay.

This might take a little bit to get some momentum going, but let's just get started.

The link below is to a spreadsheet with rules, draft order, and a sheet I'll use to track picks.

So, Joe, you're up with the first pick of the first round. I'll just keep checking the board to usher the progress of the draft.

Also, I was thinking about doing a periodic update of the draft on HLS. Just a list of the GMs and their picks, maybe after each round. No writeups. Just something to get some attention and debate going among readers so that when GMs do write up their thoughts on their picks, we might have some momentum there. If anyone objects, let me know, and I'll refrain.

Thanks.

Joe, when you're ready, please enter your pick under this post. Thanks.

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I still need a QB.

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If I or Rakes take too long for our next turns, you can just skip ahead because we're both a bit busy and we need positions that nobody else needs to fill. Thanks.

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Should I toss in an additional pick? I have an Off. Flex position open.

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We're just picking one for the final round.

Some picked 3 last round because they had 3 slots to fill that no other GM had to fill, so that just made things more efficient. You and I are still "competing" over a 2nd offensive flex guy. Choose wisely.

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Duval Kamara, WR ND.

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Because, yeah. I was going to take him.

Oh, and you've got Havili already. Dang it.

I take Owen Marecic, "one of the best run- blocking fullbacks in the country." Says so on Stanford's website, so it must be true.

And like that, I go from pass-happy to hard-nosed. Bring it.

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Heh.

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And now we know what sort of value BGS places on Special Teams. VaTech, they are not.

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We're going to let our kicker handle punts with Mr. Anello tackling the returner the second he touches the ball.

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Lots of unproven QBs this year.

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I think.

Forcier, Robinson, Sheridan. Yuck.
Cousins, Nichols, Maxwell at MSU. No thanks.
I don't know who is left at BC.
Andrew Luck at Stanford, if he beats out Pritchard?
Lopina at WSU?
Stull and Bostick at Pitt?

Ugly.

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I think Luck might turn out to be pretty good, but I can certainly see with going with Frazer for writeup purposes. That's what we basically did for Jeshua Anderson. I had no idea WSU has a WR who is a two-time NCAA sprint champ and will only be a junior in the fall.

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I have the last remaining pick in all three of the positions I still need to draft (2nd Guard, 2nd CB and SS). I am going to be in a cabin in northern Minnesota from today until Sunday so I'm just gonna put my picks in now.

2nd Guard: John Bender, Jr., Nevada
2nd CB: Kris Evans, Sr., Stanford
SS: Dom DeCicco, Jr., Pittsburgh

Great draft, all!

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Sorry I dropped from the face of the planet for a bit. A combination of personal and business stuff (some good, some bad) made it impossible to get to a computer for a few days (which is probably mostly good).

Just 2.5 rounds to go! BGS is up!

(Again, sorry)

Edited to correct draft order.

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Yep, we just took two Cougs.

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Sorry. Been having some travel issues the last few days.

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piece of the draft. Though I think you guys will all find a few high-value types. I'm starting to try to find "special interest" types with interesting backgrounds. Maybe I can find a great WSU walk-on.

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Mike Hicks, OT UCONN, Malcom Smith LB USC

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decide among the remaining, untested, inexperienced quarterbacks.

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this really does seem like a sparse year in terms of opposing QB quality.

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Look at CB. ND has had 3 corners taken. That position is weak everywhere else, even at USC. It's a down year for them.

Look at DT. We had a tough time picking through the trash.

Ditto FS/SS. And even OT.

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out the door to the grocery store.

Thankfully, there are Blackberries.

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but he's ranked so highly by Steele that I couldn't pass him up in this round.

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You're clearly not one of our 5 regular readers.

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Wasn't really tracking that, but it's notable, I think. Granted, he's the 8th of both RT and LTs.

I've been thinking more lately about the discussion somewhere (I think Rock's) about whether very good LTs can usually be found in recruiting, or if they need to be coached up. I've never really given it much thought, but I'm starting to lean towards coaching up.

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Alonzo Durham was a DT in high school.
So was Butch Lewis.

Brown is listed as an OT on Rivals, but he was only 249 lbs when he hit the Nike camp.
Marinelli was an OT.
Young and Duncan were OTs.

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I think he's 275 or something like that.

I think I'm finding a new way to guess at the success of OL coaches in college based on resume. How many good blind-side tackles have they coached up from "nothing?"

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Shareece Wright, CB USC, Averell Spicer, DT USC

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Kidding.

I think you changed up your pick after initially posting. Might want to double check my work.

Classic is up.

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My other player had already been chosen -- whoops!

But all is well.

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I was hoping that FB Navy had last year was still with the team, but he's graduated.

Rakes is up.

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Te'o-Neshein had 8 sacks last year.

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Sort of surprised Smith lasted this long. I think he could do a lot of damage this year.

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Sorry, had internet problems. All square now.

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Sorry for the delay. Long day yesterday at a wedding in the Bend and then one of the websites I manage fell down today.

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take it away!

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by Rakes' picks. Damn.

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So glad to see Gerhart still up there.

Tough choices, though. Lots of good players still out there. Right now we have a back but no one to open holes for him.

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CB Darrin Walls, Notre Dame

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With the start of Round 6 (check the sheet), we'll start doing 2 picks per GM at a time to speed this up a bit. And I'll try to sort out a good time for a Chat-based pick in the meantime to finish it off completely, but I think 2 picks at a time might suffice.

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let's move Round 6 to a new thread at the top of the page, perhaps?

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1) Yeah, a kicker. I just checked the stats, Top 30 kicker last year, and several other 2009 opponents had higher rated PAT kickers last year, but they were all seniors. Boo Yah!

2) PMan, I'm gonna keep using this thread as a courtesy to the board readers/users who aren't doing the draft, as Jay requested. I hope you don't mind. I know it's a little hard to track. I think you can also get a notification from google each time I update the draft sheet. That might make it easier.

3) Okay, now we're going to start 2 picks per GM turn from the 6th round on. I'll update the sheet to make it track.

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So, no big deal.

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Joe McKnight, RB, SoCal, largely due to his awesome website.

http://www.joemcknight.org/

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Real life intruded.

Pick: Ekon Udofia, defensive tackle, Stanford

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It's an internal disciplinary matter, and I will have no further comment on it.

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I select Jeff Byers, G, USC

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Kevin Basped, DE, Nevada and his 18.5 TFL.

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Can I get a witness?

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Assuming BGS went Floyd in Rd. 1 and not a skunkbear DE.

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I thought we were doing a serpentine?

Anyways, I'm taking Sam Young.

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There's a floating rumor that he was arrested in nantucket over the weekend of the 4th. For starters, I have no idea if this is true, and even if it is whether it will affect his playing time.

http://www.nantucketindependent.com/news/2009/0708/other_news/007.html

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/usc-football-players-everson-griffen-a...

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I've set up in the spreadsheet. I did say at some point we'd go with serpentine, and then totally forgot. Sorry. Since we're doing 5 GMs, I don't think anyone will be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Sorry about the confusion.

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"Whoever has first pick in the previous round will be rotated to last pick of the next round."

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If all the draft picks are made as replies here, it shouldn't clutter the rest of the board.

One thing to clarify: the universe of players includes Notre Dame plus all ND opponents, right?

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I'll open each round in a new subthread under the first post.

If each GM clicks the E-mail notification checkbox for each of their picks, that'll make it that much easier for you to keep track of the draft.

Thanks.

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The other thing that's knocking around in my mind is the reasoning behind your draft strategy. Instead of treating this like a fantasy football draft (where player values are sometimes misconstrued based upon schedule, scoring, and any number or other variables), I'm treating this as if I'm starting a college football team that will only be active this year -- who do I want my starting lineup to be?

So, I'm considering intangibles while drafting. Are others doing this as well? Or am I the only one?

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are available in the draft. I'll edit the rules.

And that's the same approach I was going to user, Joe. I'm drafting based on putting together a team for 2009. An excellent point. I suppose I should have outlined that before. I'd encourage everyone to approach in the same way.

Thanks.

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Jimmy Clausen. The makings are there for a huge year for him.

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Taylor Mays, safety, Southern California.

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Yeah, I've been away all day out here on the West Coast.

With the third pick I'm gonna take Jake Locker.

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Looks like Rakes is going with the Detroit Lions draft methodology.

And my pick, at #4 is...

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Tim Tebow West might not have God on his side like Tim Tebow East, but he's an Aryan wunderkind.

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University of SoCal

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They tipped their hand.

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Oh well. Technically Pat wanted Floyd first, I believe. So if we can get him, despite how I typed it (I thought it didn't matter), our fantasy team would be grateful.

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And forgot about the serpentine system. Hopefully the way I set it up on the spreadsheet isn't too unacceptable to everyone. I don't think anyone will get the shaft, as we've only got 5 GMs picking, so the talent pool will be pretty deep for everyone.

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the Polo Grounds

Let the 2009 ND vs. Opposition Draft Begin... Joe you're up

16th Round: Joe's up.

15th Round: BGS up.

Jon Teague, K Navy and Cierre Wood, ND PR

Joe's up. Also...

Armando Allen, PR ND, Joe Houston K USC

Boubacar Cissoko, KR, skunkbears; Ryan Kerrigan, DL, Purdue.

And, to finish: Zach Frazer, UConn, QB.

Rakes have their picks in. domer.mq is up.

Shaquelle Evans, WR & Louis Bland, LB, WSU

I saw some people made all three picks here.

You're actually up now, 16th and final pick.

I hope I choose the guy you want.

Well, well done then.

Wow, really?

BGS is up to pick their punter/Mr. Irrelevant, 2009

BGS takes Mike Anello, punt gunner

Thus endeth the draft.

I was wondering who you would pick

I picked the one of most interest to Irish fans.

sounds good

Pre-emptive strike

Thought perhaps you were going with the Wildcat.

14th Round. Let's finish this thing off

Jordan Todman, KR, Jasper Howard, PR (both UConn)...

CORRECTION: BGS is up.

Kenny Alfred (WSU C) and Jeshua Anderson (WSU WR)

Steve Filer, ND LB, Chris Summers, P Purdue.

Classic's up.

Vai Taua, RB, Nevada as off. flex; Golden Tate, PR.

David Green, P, Stanford & Ryan Tolar, C, Washington

is it my turn?

I think so

Let's wrap this up so the rest of the front page can breathe

13rd Rd. Take it away, Rakes...

Armando Allen, KR and Chris Summers, K, Purdue

Rich Lapham, RT, BC & Gary Gray, CB and anagram.

BGS takes Rojo (KR) and Juco DT Fangupo from USC

Joe's up.

Sergio Brown, S ND, Mike Ragone, TE ND

Dontay Moch, DE, Nevada; Brandon Walker, K, ND.

Fandango!

12th Rd., 1st pick goes to Classic...

Raeshon McNeil, CB, ND; Chris Rucker, CB, MSU.

Rakes is up.

James Aldridge, RB/FB and Martavious Odoms, WR, Michigan

Christian Tupou, USC, DT & Chima Nwachukwu, WSU, SS

Two safeties- Robert Vaughn, UConn & Will Harris, USC

Joe is up. Really getting to the "interchangeable"...

Ooooooooo-k...

Rakes is up to start Lucky Rd. 13 up above.

I think it is a good sign for Tenuta that I can't...

I'm sure some of it is psychosomatic, but...

it seems that way for a lot of positions

11th Rd, 1st pick goes to Joe.

Dan Rowlands, OG WASU, Nate Byham TE Pitt

Yeah. Byham is already taken.

Sorry 'bout that -- had to rush that pick as I was heading

Joe's takes Golden Tate as KR. Classic is up.

Mike McLaughlin, LB, BC; Kapron Lewis-Moore, DL, ND.

Chris Marinelli, OT, Stanford and Joe McKnight, USC, PR

I couldn't take Marinelli after his smack talk last year.

I waited as long as I could

And pass up on the chance to bring it up in the write up?

Charlie Gantt, TE, MSU & Alex Parsons, OG, USC

BGS - Aaron Berry, CB (Pitt) and Paul Duncan, OT (ND)

Duncan is the 8th tackle taken.

how many of those guys were recruited as OTs?

Brown is still quite lite.

Byham went to Classic in the 9th round

10th Rd. starts and BGS has the pick.

BGS selects Mike Martin, UM DT and Ronald Johnson, USC WR

Joe is up with picks 68 & 69.

This is getting tough.

Why do you think I jumped on P and K so early?

I did.

Bobby Doyle, RB, Navy; Jeff Battipaglia, OT, Navy.

Was hoping Navy guys would get drafted. Rakes is up.

Mick Williams, DT, Pitt and Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, DE, UW