Update: Rivals Top 100 players per program

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 09:29 (6246 days ago)

Ok, so I've gone ahead and subtracted/added the latest transfers, expulsions, etc, and have what each teams roster is projected to look like in the fall. It's broken down for the Top 10 teams for each category:


OVERALL TOTAL (2004/2005-2009)

Southern Cal: 45
Texas: 25
Florida: 24
Notre Dame: 22
Ohio State: 20
LSU: 19
Oklahoma: 19
Georgia: 19
Alabama: 18
Miami: 16


FOURTH THRU FIRST YEAR PLAYERS (2006-2009)

Southern Cal: 39
Texas: 25
Florida: 24
Notre Dame: 22
Ohio State: 19
LSU: 19
Georgia: 17
Alabama: 17
Oklahoma: 16
Miami: 15


THIRD THRU FIRST YEAR PLAYERS (2007-2009)

Southern Cal: 28
Florida: 19
Notre Dame: 18
Texas: 17
LSU: 16
Alabama: 15
Ohio State: 15
Georgia: 14
Oklahoma: 12
Tennessee: 9


SECOND THRU FIRST YEAR PLAYERS (2008-2009)

Southern Cal: 18
Ohio State: 14
Alabama: 12
Georgia: 12
Florida: 11
Texas: 11
Oklahoma: 11
Notre Dame: 11
LSU: 10
Tennessee: 5

I'd be okay if we finished fourth.

by Slainte Joe @, Raleigh, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 10:16 (6246 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

You know?

USC's overall edge is amazing

by BPH, San Diego, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 10:05 (6246 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

Having almost twice as many elite recruits as Florida and Texas? Wow.

But this confirms what we've been saying all along. No excuse for ND not to be a BCS team this season.

ND will also be one of the most experienced teams, too.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:00 (6246 days ago) @ BPH

100 starts total for the Offensive Line

300+ starts total for the whole team.

It's f*ckin time.

I heard Carroll on the radio yesterday

by Jay, San Diego, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 11:39 (6246 days ago) @ BPH

talking about their spring game. The man is perpetually wired. He cracks me up.

Weis needs to get Twitter lessons from him

by BPH, San Diego, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:33 (6246 days ago) @ Jay

Weis is literally the only Twitter user I've ever read who gets around the 140-character limit by stringing messages together into longer sentences. Assuming his target audience is recruits, I can't imagine they find it all that interesting.

it is just so funny

by Jay, San Diego, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:38 (6246 days ago) @ BPH
edited by Jay, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:44

http://twitter.com/PeteCarroll

I mean, he just wears it on his sleeve.

# Squeezing in a quick workout in my office (while listening to The Killers... love it!) before going out to the field... Wish you were here!11:00 AM Apr 18th from web

# Too much fun in the team meeting, no one wanted it to end... The guys are JACKED! Scrimmage in an hour... Gotta love spring football!10:21 AM Apr 18th from web

His Will Ferrell bromance is hilarious as well.

by ReginaldVelJohnson @, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 13:27 (6245 days ago) @ Jay

Homoeroticism abounds. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

He currently has a campaign to get Ferrell on Twitter. Also, his musical favorites are fairly humorous. I used to think the "I'm acting like a 25 year old" was just a schtick. He's not. That's just legitimately who he is.

I'm consistently torn on Pete Carroll.

by Pete, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 13:42 (6245 days ago) @ ReginaldVelJohnson

His schtick seems like it absolutely has to be a schtick, but if it is a schtick, he's the Andy Kaufman of football coaches.

I think he's a great college football coach, and whatever he does seems to work for him. I also think he runs a ship so loose it's probably falling apart at the seams.

I also think that if I wasn't a Notre Dame fan, or if Notre Dame was having its way with USC rather than vice versa, I'd kinda like the doofy guy. He's a human caricature.

http://www.lamag.com/article.aspx?id=6918

Andy Kaufman is a good analogy.

by ReginaldVelJohnson @, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 13:52 (6245 days ago) @ Pete

Maybe it started out as a schtick, but it definitely seems like more than that now. Of course, maybe his personality is one of the reasons he was terrible in the NFL. Can you see any NFL players respecting a guy like that? I can't, but in college it works very well. It's the opposite problem Weis seemed to have.

I also think that his method is one of those things you wouldn't want to try and repeat elsewhere. It works for him, in a very specific set of circumstances. If his teams were losing, the stuff wouldn't fly. If he didn't have the ability to recruit talented players at a rate beyond any other program (due in part possibly to his style, but also because of the unique institutional factors at USC), I imagine it wouldn't work either.

I think it's legitimate.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 14:56 (6245 days ago) @ ReginaldVelJohnson

It's not difficult to imagine that Carroll ratches up his personality because he knows that it works for him. But based on what I've heard about his exploits in the NFL, it doesn't sound like he's much different than he used to be.

Honestly, I think that Carroll is in the absolute perfect place to get the most out of what he has to offer as a football coach. He'd be a fool to leave SC.

me too

by Jay, San Diego, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 15:19 (6245 days ago) @ KGB

I went to a fair number of USC games from the time PC first came on board, when I was living in LA. It is no schtick. He is 100% goofball sunny, all of the time.

How did that stuff play from the get-go?

by Pete, Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 17:25 (6245 days ago) @ Jay

I seem to recall he had a fairly rough year his first year, but there's always a pretty good grace period for new coaches. But still, did his hopped up on goofballs act raise a few eyebrows?

after people came to grips with the hire, it played well

by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, April 23, 2009, 06:40 (6244 days ago) @ Pete

Much like the ND fan base in 2005, back in 2001 Trojan fans were coming off 6-6 and 5-7 seasons and were crying out for a "return to glory." People were initially skeptical of the Carroll hire, since to that point in time all he had on the resume was "NFL failure, twice."

However, once he got in there he immediately breathed new life into the program. My cousin was living with me at the time while he went to grad school at USC, and together we went to a number of games in 2001, Pete's first year. They had a completely new look on offense thanks to Chow, and under his tutelage Palmer underwent a radical transformation from flaky meathead to a true Heisman candidate.

Carroll went 6-6 that first year, but lost games with scores like 6-10, 22-24, 24-27, etc. Even with that record, by the end of the first season Trojan fans knew they had a winner and everybody was jacked and pumped. The next year Pete was 11-2 and there was no looking back.

SC fans were all over him his first year and a half.

by FunkDoctorSpock, Your Nightmares, B* tches, Thursday, April 23, 2009, 05:20 (6244 days ago) @ Pete

One of my best friends is a USC grad and during 2001 and the first half of 2002 it was:

"Pom-Pom Pete"

"The Poodle"

"Mr. 500"


As for Norm Chow:

"Dog Chow"

"Mr Pussy Football"

"Air Chow"

Winning has a way of making a persons goofiness or grumpiness seem ok.

If I ended up connected to Carroll on Facebook...

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 14:24 (6246 days ago) @ Jay

...I would most likely defriend him by the end of the week.

at least Weis doesn't tweet about Ryan Seacrest

by Spesh ⌂ @, Los Angeles, Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:41 (6246 days ago) @ Jay

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