I think this has no salience for the actual team/recruits - the Polo Grounds

Any monkey/albatross hanging on any limb is bothering fans and fans alone. Making the playoff every year regardless of playoff result is a million times more valuable to any current or future ND coach and player than a NY6 win so we can all feel warm and fuzzy for 45 minutes.

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gunning for the playoffs Jay 2021-11-08, 08:18 AM
- We're not getting in on style points BPH 2021-11-08, 08:25 AM
  - I think this is true Mike (bart) 2021-11-08, 08:31 AM
  - I don't think we can get in without 'em Jay 2021-11-08, 08:48 AM
    - It's battered fan syndrome, right? BPH 2021-11-08, 08:57 AM
      - definitely BFS Jay 2021-11-08, 09:04 AM
    - I don't think we're making it in on any subjective metric CK08 2021-11-08, 08:59 AM
    - Glad you are rising above the negative influences CW (Rakes) 2021-11-08, 09:01 AM
      - Set aside recruiting even Mike (bart) 2021-11-08, 09:07 AM
    - I’d love to hear us be able to make this pitch JD in Portland 2021-11-08, 03:59 PM
- Maybe covered in the game discussion below, but I think part BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 08:28 AM
- Another (potential) unfortunate consequence Jeremy (WeIsND) 2021-11-08, 08:34 AM
  - Playing the ACC champ may not be very buzzy BPH 2021-11-08, 08:41 AM
    - Sure, but I'd rather watch that matchup on New Year's Day BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 10:10 AM
- I find this "avoid the playoffs" mindset utterly baffling HCE 2021-11-08, 08:45 AM
  - You are not the aloney one! Grantland 2021-11-08, 08:47 AM
  - exactly Jay 2021-11-08, 08:50 AM
    - Yep. Domer99 2021-11-08, 10:39 AM
      - As far as I'm concerned, just win out and only good things BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 10:41 AM
        
        At least the 2022 Clemson game is much less scary BPH 2021-11-08, 10:52 AM
        
        Good point. Suffice it to say, he hasn't had to deal with BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 11:06 AM
  - I think it’s a crisis of confidence HumanRobot 2021-11-08, 08:54 AM
    - Beat Georgia? BPH 2021-11-08, 08:59 AM
      - We'll win 9-6 on a last second field goal CK08 2021-11-08, 09:01 AM
      - or the team with one top-25 win KGB 2021-11-08, 09:11 AM
        
        I think the eye test is relevant here BPH 2021-11-08, 09:17 AM
        
        Understood. KGB 2021-11-08, 09:39 AM
        
        As is talent JN 2021-11-08, 11:06 AM
      - UGA's defense would score more points on us than our offense Grantland 2021-11-08, 09:22 AM
      - that schedule is sus HumanRobot 2021-11-08, 09:48 AM
        
        bruh Jay 2021-11-08, 10:24 AM
    - You must hate Jack Coan! hobbs 2021-11-08, 09:07 AM
    - I think this has no salience for the actual team/recruits HullieAndMikes 2021-11-08, 09:07 AM
      - Agreed, and I think the regard for these "major bowl games" HCE 2021-11-08, 09:15 AM
        
        And we all know Jeremy (WeIsND) 2021-11-08, 09:19 AM
        
        (Drink) BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 10:13 AM
  - You don't understand? Domer99 2021-11-08, 09:10 AM
  - I’m all for making the playoffs JD in Portland 2021-11-08, 09:30 AM
  - Why are bowl games always "exhibition games"? IrishGuard 2021-11-08, 09:49 AM
    - I'd replace "pointless" with "inconsequential" HCE 2021-11-08, 11:34 AM
  - The thing about this team Jeff (BGS) 2021-11-08, 12:51 PM
    - In that vein Jeremy (WeIsND) 2021-11-08, 12:57 PM
- Not sure style points will make a difference CK08 2021-11-08, 08:52 AM
  - everybody is playing shaky Jay 2021-11-08, 09:01 AM
    - It's too bad the 12-team playoff isn't happening now. MattG 2021-11-08, 10:48 AM
      - That would be great! oviedoirish 2021-11-08, 05:37 PM
- There are no style points to have with Navy. domer.mq 2021-11-08, 09:00 AM
  - It's possible to have some, but I'm not sure it matters Aaron (Shakespeare) 2021-11-08, 01:42 PM
- That premise (NY6) is absurd. Joe I (20250422) 2021-11-08, 10:10 AM
- There's a decent chance we get Bama in an NY6 anyway, right? MattG 2021-11-08, 10:14 AM
  - FWIW, Sampson says that based on the various bowl BillyGoat 2021-11-08, 10:18 AM
    - I think the Fiesta Bowl is pretty open if UC makes it Domer99 2021-11-08, 10:32 AM
      - I'd include Ohio State CK08 2021-11-08, 10:58 AM
    - Holiday Bowl at Petco this year for the first time Jay 2021-11-08, 10:35 AM
      - Think Sampson mentioned this.... Domer99 2021-11-08, 10:43 AM
    - Playoff path is simple: Go UGA, Wisc, Utah Ken Fowler 2021-11-08, 06:17 PM
      - There are a couple of avenues to the 3rd seed Jeff (BGS) 2021-11-08, 07:23 PM
        
        not sure about the UVA QB, but Jay did start this thread Kyle 2021-11-09, 08:05 AM
        
        Mendenhall's being cagey CK08 2021-11-09, 08:08 AM
  - I don't think we are at Cincy's mercy Domer99 2021-11-08, 10:21 AM
    - The Committee put Oregon ahead of Ohio State CK08 2021-11-08, 10:25 AM
  - No, I think Bama is playoffs or Sugar Bowl vs Big XII CK08 2021-11-08, 10:22 AM
- I think it's easy to understand JN 2021-11-08, 10:56 AM
  - I think it is pretty damn cool that we are one of Grantland 2021-11-08, 11:18 AM
    - To date... Greg 2021-11-08, 01:28 PM
      - Also, both times we have been, the team who beat us Grantland 2021-11-08, 01:45 PM
  - 2008 Sheraton Hawaii Bowl Savage 2021-11-08, 01:47 PM
    - Clausen was 22/26, 401 yards, 5 TDs IrishGuard 2021-11-08, 06:03 PM
      - And the 4 incompletions Jeremy (WeIsND) 2021-11-08, 06:50 PM
        
        Took some pressure off Charlie in the off season Jack 2021-11-09, 07:40 AM
        
        Jimmy Clausen, perfect game Jay 2021-11-09, 08:39 AM
        
        OK, so maybe they weren't ALL drops Jeremy (WeIsND) 2021-11-09, 02:04 PM
- Early signing period is a game changer here too Mike (bart) 2021-11-08, 11:58 AM
  - This is true. hobbs 2021-11-08, 02:00 PM
- I'm pretty programmed to avoid unnecessary pain Regular Joseph 2021-11-08, 12:27 PM
  - Possibly a thread hijack Domer99 2021-11-08, 01:06 PM
- I won't argue against getting into the playoffs. PAK 2021-11-08, 01:37 PM
  - Not sure I disagree but Domer99 2021-11-08, 03:50 PM
    - This is where I am at, I believe. River 2021-11-08, 05:04 PM
    - and while it's not an excuse JN 2021-11-08, 05:04 PM
    - Yes. oviedoirish 2021-11-08, 05:23 PM
    - Seriously, look at some of these jokers. KGB 2021-11-08, 05:47 PM
      - Most of the time I am 100% in agreement with you Costa Rican 2021-11-09, 07:22 AM
- I've come around to this view. oviedoirish 2021-11-08, 05:22 PM
- I'm coming around Jeff (BGS) 2021-11-08, 05:48 PM
- Que Sera Sera irishoutsider 2021-11-09, 03:56 AM
- Any predictions for what the committee will realease? Jeff (BGS) 2021-11-09, 07:12 AM
  - Both Wisconsin and Purdue may slide into the rankings LaFortune Teller 2021-11-09, 07:26 AM
  - The Committee kind of screwed themselves CK08 2021-11-09, 07:29 AM
    - I would change that order Supe 2021-11-09, 08:34 AM
  - I think you're probably right. KGB 2021-11-09, 08:25 AM
  - I think CK is mostly right on this JN 2021-11-09, 08:26 AM
    - Fuck Michigan. Grantland 2021-11-09, 08:32 AM
    - I don't think they're wrong to have Oregon over OU. KGB 2021-11-09, 08:59 AM
      - Agreed JN 2021-11-09, 11:56 AM
- Is it possible for all teams in the PAC12, BIG and BIG12 Grantland 2021-11-09, 08:51 AM
  - Yes, and it's not that hard CK08 2021-11-09, 08:58 AM
    - Thanks y'all. That'd be so cool. Grantland 2021-11-09, 10:29 AM
      - Some men just want to watch the world burn! hobbs 2021-11-09, 11:15 AM
        
        We don't need no water... Grantland 2021-11-09, 11:21 AM
        
        Can I root for Alabama to beat Georgia, nedhead 2021-11-09, 06:59 PM
        
        Magic 8 Ball say ... KelleyCook 2021-11-09, 07:59 PM
        
        I mean it's 50/50 for me if the UM team you be talking about Grantland 2021-11-11, 06:51 AM
  - The odds aren't bad Jeff (BGS) 2021-11-09, 09:03 AM
- Apropos of nothing but... Domer99 2021-11-09, 02:44 PM
  - Who the hell is Colley? Grantland 2021-11-11, 06:48 AM
    - Not sure but he loves himself some ND Domer99 2021-11-11, 07:58 AM