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Chip on ND/Big 12

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 09:51

Just reposting here for posterity.

--------------- was first to report Notre Dame possibly moving its non-football sports to the Big 12 back in August.

We were nearly laughed off the internet when we reported it.

But the discussion of ND possibly moving its non-football sports to the Big 12 continues to heat up. The subject is actively being discussed by Big 12 administrators and the Irish.

The driving force in all of this has been the close relationship between Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick and Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds.

We reported on Monday that ND will decide in 60 days if it is going to move its non-football sports out of the Big East (and into the Big 12).

If Notre Dame does make such a move, it is being proposed that the Irish would remain independent in football but begin playing six football games against Big 12 competition. has reported that Texas would love to replace Texas A&M on Thanksgiving with Notre Dame, if possible. That still may be a bit of a longshot.

But to quote Lloyd Christmas, "So you're saying there's a chance."

One high-ranking official at a Big 12 school holds out the hope that if Notre Dame moves its non-football sports into the Big 12 it would be a "segue to full conference membership in a year or two - about the time the first tier TV rights (held by ABC/ESPN) are negotiated."

Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas continues to voice hope that Missouri will remain in the Big 12. And there is speculation that Notre Dame's possible interest in the Big 12 for its non-football sports could entice Mizzou to stay put.

Sources said Missouri is being told it will be cut in on any rotation of football games involving Notre Dame and the Big 12.

Some Big 12 administrators, though, think Missouri is still gone. reported Monday that Missouri was expected to talk to SEC officials today (Tuesday) about planning out the next steps for the Tigers. has been reporting for two weeks if Missouri leaves the Big 12, West Virginia would be the top choice to replace the Tigers.

That has not changed, and the Big 12 would move quickly with an announcement when/if MU gives the word it's leaving.

Stay tuned.



Per Thamel - Big XII will stay at 10 and the BE will invite

by hobbs, San Diego, Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 10:17 @ Jay
edited by hobbs, Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 10:32

(Jay, didn't mean to foul up your tagged thread, but this looked where this development should go)

Temple as a football member. If that sounds familiar that's likely because Temple was an inaugural BE (football) member back in 1991. They left the conference in 2004 after failing to attract enough consistent fan support. I guess conference desperation makes the attendance issue much troubling issue now.

This conference is dead.

They can't really expect to hold onto their automatic bid after losing, arguably the 3 strongest football programs in the conference, and replacing them with Boise St & Temple.!/PeteThamelNYT

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