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Israel has 1/3rd of their population vaccinated.

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 06:51

Israel has 1/3rd of their people with a shot in arm.

The US is around 5%.

Maryland is having such a hard time, they've stopped even reporting by percentage on their dashboard. And they're munging data on the dashboard they do provide. Meanwhile my county is pointing fingers right up to the state as the county has used 95% of their available doses and can't get any more. Sure enough, the state points right up to the Feds.

Let's check on what the Feds have been doing...

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STAT News w/clearest explanation of Biden's moves...

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 08:20 @ domer.mq

These folks have been great. Another instance where I tried to read something and didn't see what I was seeing. There aren't a ton of specifics in Biden's stuff from yesterday. Mostly it is just giving folks in his administration the power to do what needs doing if they can do it. But there are a few really interesting nuggets. I didn't understand the bit about needles until I read this piece.

"The first is using the law to produce so-called low dead space needles, which are needed to extract a sixth dose of Pfizer's vaccine from the vial. The second is to increase the supply of the lipid nanoparticles needed to make all mRNA vaccines — the category that both Pfizer and Moderna's products fall into."

https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/21/covid-19-vaccine-supply-biden-hopes-to-fix-that/

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To be fair,

by nedhead, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 14:29 @ domer.mq

it's not surprising that a small country was able to secure that many vaccines, and then distribute them. Also, it's not surprising that the countries to do it were Israel and UAE. The US is doing better than most of the EU, Canada, etc.

The lack of any real, federal plan is pretty terrible and a misuse of resources (the more local, the more local officials have to learn about and make decisions on things far outside their expertise). So, while not a defense, the US has plinkod it's way to doing ok. The real test will get moving from 5% to 50% -- that's a lot of vaccines to produce and distribute.

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If we weren't missing the 100M by February...

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 17:22 @ nedhead

goal stated after the vaccines were approved by so much, I'd be more inclined to agree, but we're WAY off the pace for that.

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100M by February was never going to happen, though.

by nedhead, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 17:34 @ domer.mq

Trump's promise/attempted brag of 200k/day seems more accurate, and we are faster than that promised pace.

If we get to 100M by May Day, I'd be pretty happy.

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DPA will be signed today

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 07:59 @ domer.mq

Along with a bunch of other orders.

Link to plan document here: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/national-strategy-for-the-covid-19-response/c7bd...

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Should have been fully implemented 9 months ago ...

by Mark, SBN, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 21:39 @ Jay
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Hearing Fauci talk about this stuff still makes me made as hell ...

“The idea that you can get up here and talk about what you know and what the science is ... it is something of a liberating feeling,” Fauci told reporters. White House press secretary Jen Psaki had invited Fauci to take the podium first at her daily briefing.

While choosing his words carefully, Fauci acknowledged that it had been difficult at times to work for Trump, who repeatedly played down the severity of the pandemic, refused to consistently promote mask-wearing and often touted unproven scientific remedies, including a malaria drug and even injecting disinfectant.

“It was very clear that there were things that were said, be it regarding things like hydroxychloroquine and other things, that really was uncomfortable because they were not based in scientific fact,” Fauci said. He added that he took “no pleasure” in having to contradict the president, a move that often drew Trump’s wrath.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/fauci-unleashed-doc-takes-liberating-turn-cente...

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My city has its own dept of health separate from

by IrishGuard, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 07:21 @ domer.mq
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Cook county’s (because of course it does, we also have two separate park districts...). My city is (as several other suburbs are) going right to the public school district to vaccinate their teachers, but I teach in Chicago, which is having residents put themselves on its own list. Am I paying hefty taxes to be shut out of my own town’s supply? What happens if I am turned away by Chicago because I’m not a resident? Meanwhile, I called the local hospital, which is set to begin vaccinating teachers this week, and the head nurse there hasn’t heard word one about this from the public health department. And all this after they’ve already pushed back the next wave of vaccinations because they ran out and couldn’t deliver on their promises.

There is no plan. Local government at all levels is left to compete with other local governments. The Biden admin team is out this morning just airing their frustrations about this—there is not even a skeleton plan in place they can retool. Total fucking incompetence! And that’s of course red meat for the libertarian set, who are using it as evidence of general government incompetence rather than the singularly awful leadership of Trump.

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OT: Do you teach in Chicago but live in the suburbs?

by Jeff (BGS), A starter home in suburban Tempe, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 09:51 @ IrishGuard

I thought that wasn't allowed...

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I teach at a Catholic school

by IrishGuard, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 10:34 @ Jeff (BGS)
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as do many other Evanstonians. There are hundreds of teachers at private, non-sectarian schools, preschools, daycares, and other public districts who live and pay taxes here.

Meanwhile, there are lots of teachers in the local public district who do not live here, and my own school is saying "check with your own public health department to get a slot."

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Hey Trump invented the vaccine!

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 08:30 @ IrishGuard

What the fuck else could you possibly want from him?

Some people originally voted for President Business knowing exactly how goddamn incompetent he is, but recognizing -- subconsciously or otherwise -- that putting him in charge would make government look considerably worse. On a larger scale, this has been the GOP's philosophical approach to government for several decades, where any action taken is merely a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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this is the ultimate anti-libertarian proof, isn't it?

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 07:38 @ IrishGuard

An every-man-for-himself free for all simply cannot succeed against a problem that the entire society is facing.

It's as if, hey the Russians are invading, grab a gun, good luck!

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Even in my most hardcore libertarian

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 07:43 @ Jay

20s, I always believed there was need for a federal government for national defense.

Short of nuclear war, there's never been a bigger threat to national security than this pandemic in any of our lifetimes. I have no idea how any libertarian could use "rational thought" and conclude Trump's failure to do anything is proof that government is bad.

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The entire Trump admin from Nov 4, onward...

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 07:32 @ IrishGuard

Literally spent whatever minimal mental energy they had focused on overturning the election results.

Which, yeah, we all knew, but holy shit, now that I'm not chewing away my nails worrying democracy may fail, it's still shocking.

While I fully understand Biden's team airing grievances right now, I sure as hell hope they showed up sprinting. We're WAY behind schedule if we have any hope of seeing kids going back to school in any "normal" way in the fall.

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That was my question. With DPA assistance, what is a

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 08:37 @ domer.mq

reasonable timeline for the vaccine to get to teachers ... and then to schoolchildren (with healthy children presumably being the last group).

Also, have there been any rumblings about adding COVID to the list of vaccines necessary for school (obviously, once it is widely available enough to make such a requirement).

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I've had some conversations with state officals...

by domer.mq ⌂ @, Thursday, January 21, 2021, 09:14 @ BillyGoat

And I'm having a hard time getting a read on if we can double or triple production. They don't seem to know. Maybe I'm just asking the wrong people. But given the CDC's data on state-by-state disbursements, if there's no "reserve" right now, then we're flat out WAY behind on production. FAR lower than the numbers Moderna and Pfizer had mentioned in late fall/early winter.

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