OT: Vacation Recommendations

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 11:40 (2538 days ago)

The wife and I want to take a vacation sometime this year. Our combined preferences are (not in any specific order):

1. Somewhere off the beaten path
2. Relaxing - not itinerary-driven
3. Experience a different/new culture
4. Good food!
5. Preferably somewhere warm/near a beach.
6. Outdoor activities (hiking, biking, walking, etc.)
7. Interesting sights or architectural interest.

You guys seem like a worldly bunch (except Busco, who hates soccer and drinks Busch Lite), so I'm hoping you may have some recommendations?

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Guess I missed this thread last week

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 12:46 (2529 days ago) @ Joe

but I'd make a pitch for Sayulita, a little beach town about 40 minutes outside of Puerto Vallerta. If you're on the west coast, it's an easy (and probably direct) flight to PV, and the town itself isn't a pain to get to from the airport but enough off the beaten path that it's tourist-friendly without being overrun by ugly Americans. The beach is very nice, and there are enough interesting/good bars & restaurants in town that you could stick around for 4-5 days without doubling up. Everything was affordable to cheap, and the weather was 76/sunny-65/clear every single day. Chef recommends.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213598217163657&set=a.1057091541427.20130...

New US/Canada Travel Warning - Playa Del Carmen

by Joe I @, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 11:57 (2529 days ago) @ Joe

Just saw this travel warning posted, so figured it would be useful to note. The US and Canada have just announced travel warnings for Playa del Carmen, in regards to recent ferry explosion and found explosives. No info to date as to who is behind these attacks.

http://time.com/5191405/us-travel-warning-resort-mexico/

Thanks guys! Appreciate the help.

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 17:50 (2536 days ago) @ Joe

We have plenty to think about/consider now!

Has anybody been to Norway recently...

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 11:06 (2536 days ago) @ Joe

Ideally with grade school aged children? I'd love any insights for that one. All I have to work with is Frozen and Lilyhammer, neither of which are that helpful.

not recently

by Jay @, San Diego, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 11:10 (2536 days ago) @ BillyGoat

I have been to Oslo and Bergen but not in many years. Also stopped off at Voss to see the statue of Knute Rockne.

Norway was all very nice and clean and well-organized and friendly and everybody spoke great English and everything was very, very expensive.

Portugal would hit all of that except off beaten path?

by LT, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 12:31 (2537 days ago) @ Joe
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Lots of small places to explore outside of Lisbon/Porto/Sintra, though. Can be very outdoorsy. Terrific food.

Morocco also a good mix but trickier to get around outside of the main cities if you don't speak French or Arabic. Great seaside stuff and mountain treks, though.

Did a week in Portugal last June

by MHB (Rakes of Mallow), Chicago, IL, United States, Earth-199999, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 23:39 (2537 days ago) @ LT

Rented a car and meandered along the Algarve Coast before making our way up the west coast and stopping into Sintra (amazing) and Lisbon (hot). Would love to go back.

you did a week in Portugal and there was no trip report

by Jay @, San Diego, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 10:56 (2536 days ago) @ MHB (Rakes of Mallow)

C'mon, people! What else is this forum good for if not travel tips (and the occasional football post)?

That said we will be back to France this summer so expect a deluge (French for deluge) of travel posts from me.

Trip Report, you say? - Spain

by Joe I @, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 14:15 (2536 days ago) @ Jay

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Spain Trip Report and Itinerary (16 days)

Note: Unfortunately, images do not display in this forum, so I've changed them to links if you're interested.

This site is such a great resource for trip planning, that I wanted to share our recent trip and itinerary as inspiration for others. I love Spain, and wanted to make a return trip with my partner. There is so much to see in the country that we couldn’t even fit in any Madrid time over two weeks. The trip spanned 16 days between October 13 and October 28, 2017.

The primary impetus for our trip, other than Barcelona, was to hang with the pigs. Black Iberian pigs are the famous and delicious black footed pigs, used to produce the incomparable jamon iberico, and are raised in the Spanish dehesa, oak forests in South / West Spain. By law, the pigs are allocated ~ 4 acres of land each, and forage on several types of acorns during the winter months. The acorn diet imbues their meat with an umami unique around the world. The fat from these pigs indeed tastes like acorns, and contains over 55% of the healthy oleic acid (the same found in avocados).

The first week was a whirlwind tour of the Spanish countryside and many memorable stops. The second week was all Barcelona. While it was nearly as busy as our first week, we almost always remained in walking distance of the hotel for a quick siesta. I would typically shy away from such a busy trip, but for us this ended up just about perfect, and included a nice long stay in Barcelona.

Trip Theme Song: Castle on the Hill (Ed Sheeran) – For all our trips, we try to pick a song which personifies time and place, and it becomes a staple of our trip playlist. This song is particularly apropos.
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For a full report:
Spain Trip Report and Itinerary (16 days)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/spain-portugal-gibraltar/1893483-spain-trip-report-itin...

I love reading trip reports

by LT, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 13:24 (2536 days ago) @ Jay

But inevitably feel like a dweeb writing them. (Self aware basic white girl) Please keep writing them everyone! This thread has me desperate to get to Thailand! Maybe in 15 years.

I also really like when people talk about traveling with kids! Very aspirational. I find going anywhere with kids so overwhelming but I need to get over it.

MHB: we didn’t do the southern coast but Porto was surprisingly awesome (I mostly went for the bookstores and just loved the city and the vibe) and a day trip into the Douro Valley was surprisingly our favorite part of the whole trip. There are direct Newark-Porto flights! I love it.

Those are two very good recommendations.

by Joe I @, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 13:11 (2537 days ago) @ LT

And friends who've recently been to Morocco said language really wasn't an issue.

A few friends have been to Sri Lanka recently

by LT, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 12:37 (2537 days ago) @ LT

and it also looks amazing. Not sure if it's too resort-y now though.

Piggybacking off Joe...

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:48 (2537 days ago) @ Joe

My family and I are going to Europe this summer, and most of the trip is already decided. We're flying into Munich, then going to an Austrian lake town called Zell Am See, followed by Salzburg, Vienna and Budapest. And we're also flying out of Munich. But we have several days between leaving Budapest and our flight home. Any other recs for that region? We're considering Croatia, but have heard it's deathly crowded in the summer and that the travel infrastructure (especially trains) is not that great. Maybe Slovenia? Northern Italy?

While you're in Salzburg...

by irishvol @, Music City, USA, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 13:17 (2537 days ago) @ BPH

I think Jay sent me to this place about 10 years ago on a trip to Munich / Vienna / Salzburg. It remains one of my favorite places on earth.

https://www.augustinerbier.at/?L=1.

if you have a few days, add Prague

by Jay @, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:53 (2537 days ago) @ BPH

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Stopped there on my previous Europe trip

by BPH, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 10:35 (2537 days ago) @ Jay

Would consider going back, but I’d like to try someplace new.

Krakow?

by Jay @, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 14:28 (2537 days ago) @ BPH

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Go diving.

by nedhead @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 21:07 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

SE Asia, it’s relatively cheap, great beaches, diving is experiencing an amazing alien world, dive spots have some western luxuries, and then stop in Kuala Lumpur or Bangkok for a few nights.

I’ve never been to Sipadan (Malaysia), but that would be my rec. Indonesia is also huge and amazing. Time is important to avoid the rainy season, differs by location.

Take a river cruise.

by oviedoirish @, Oviedo, Florida, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 19:37 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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Wakanda

by Pat, in the cloud, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 18:31 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Is this your king?

by Jim (fisherj08) @, A Samoan kid's laptop, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 19:38 (2538 days ago) @ Pat

Spain

by Joe I @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:32 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

We just got back from 2 weeks there, with 1 week driving through the countryside and a full week in Barcelona. I could live in that city. Lots of great beaches along the coast, warm late Spring to early Fall, culture, architecture, food.

Any tips for San Sebastian? Going in April.

by LT, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 12:32 (2537 days ago) @ Joe I

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Yes!

by MattG, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 13:26 (2537 days ago) @ LT

I haven’t been there in 20 years. BUT, definitely climb up the hill on the right-hand side of the concha - the north side - until you get to the ruins and can see the ocean and the Pyrenees.

thanks!

by LT, Friday, March 02, 2018, 10:28 (2535 days ago) @ MattG

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Ahhh, haven't been, but it's next on our Spain itinerary.

by Joe I @, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 13:10 (2537 days ago) @ LT

We're going to hit the Northern coast, from Santiago de Compostela over to San Sebastian. Let me know how your trip is...

Im taking 20 students the last 166 miles on the Camino in Ju

by IrishGuard, Friday, March 02, 2018, 05:46 (2535 days ago) @ Joe I

It'll be a far cry from my own Camino back in 2006, when I started in France. Much has changed I hear in the intervening years on The Way, but I'm still pretty jazzed.

What a great experience for the kids.

by Joe I @, Friday, March 02, 2018, 06:11 (2535 days ago) @ IrishGuard

I’m sure it will leave lasting memories., and cool you did the whole trip.

Has anyone ever done this type of vacation in Africa?

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:22 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Obviously I said the Seychelles - but anywhere else?

I did 3 weeks through Kenya and Tanzania ending in Zanzibar.

by ReginaldVelJohnson @, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:24 (2537 days ago) @ Grantland

The Kenya/Tanzania part was a lot of fun, but not necessarily "relaxing". I liked Zanzibar and it was a relaxing way to end, bit I have nothing to compare it to as far as "tropical resorts" go, as that's never been my kind of vacation.

Similar but ended in Seychelles.

by LT, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 12:41 (2537 days ago) @ ReginaldVelJohnson

10 days of safari through Kenya and Tanzania and ended up with four days in the Seychelles. Probably should have done Zanzibar--Seychelles was amazing but I think Zanzibar is probably similar and the travel would have been less of a drag. I sort of felt like I'd never do Seychelles again, though, so it was worth going all in.

For the safari, we did a tour company and went to four of their camps so I feel like our "cultural" experience was somewhat limited but the wildlife is amazing and the camps were pretty fantastic. The experience was totally seamless and very beautifully done, if not necessarily super-relaxing (since you want to get up early for the morning game drives, there's not really a lazy sleeping in type option).

I have an excellent camp rec for Kenya

by Jay @, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 14:34 (2537 days ago) @ LT

Sekanani Camp, in the heart of the Maasai Mara. It's actually owned and operated by the Maasai. It's in the middle of the woods, about a dozen elevated tents, some connected by catwalks, with a central dining tent, fire pit, and even a small pool. There is no external fencing, so if you have to walk around at night, you have to ring a bell and one of the guys will escort you, armed with a spear. Also, the monkeys in the area know how to unzip the tent zippers so you have to padlock the tent flaps at night.

They will also take you on extended hikes through the bush, which was an exhilarating change of pace from the safari van.

http://sekenani-camp.com/

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Walking safari is a must, wherever you can do it

by ndphilo @, A prison of my own design, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 19:06 (2537 days ago) @ Jay

We did one in Kruger. Just incredible. You get to see lots of things you would never see in the trucks - lot's of the smaller animals, some that you can se up close, like baboon spiders with their nearly 8 inch leg-span. But there really is nothing quite like hiking through the bush and coming up on a herd of elephant or rhino.

The guides where we went were just incredible. In addition to morning hikes, you did evening/night drives. The guides worked in teams, one driving, one sitting out in front on the corner of the engine as a spotter. We were bouncing down a dirt track at probably 30 mph heading back to camp, when suddenly the spotter's hand went up urgently, and the driver slammed the brakes. Everyone was scanning the darkness, trying to figure out what he had seen. The spotter stated laughing, and pointed up to a tree branch maybe a foot from his ear. There, at the end of the branch, was a chameleon. I will never understand how he spotted it. I'm half convinced it was plastic and he runs it as a regular gag on the tourists.

Not really for vacation

by ndphilo @, A prison of my own design, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:28 (2538 days ago) @ Grantland

But a lot of time in Swaziland and a bit around Johannesburg/Krueger Park. Eager to see more, though Cape Town may turn into a dessert before too long. I hear the beaches in Mozambique are incredible, so that is on the list too.

Its a long list though.

Ecuador

by Bryan (IrishCavan), Howth Castle and Environs, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:10 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

It is pretty inexpensive and you have the mountains (Quito is 9000 ft.), the beach, tropical forests, Spanish colonial architecture, incredible cerviche to eat (or try the Cuy, which is guinea pig) -- all in a pretty small country. If you want, you can do a side trip to the Galapagos. They are also on the American dollar.

Bermuda?

by Chris @, Raleigh, NC, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:57 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

It would seem to click off a lot of your points.

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Jamlando

by Mike (Max) ⌂ @, Orlando, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:54 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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Amalfi Coast, Italy

by Rob (Rakes of Mallow), Chicago, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:16 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

I went a few years ago with my wife for our honeymoon.

We went to Ravello and stayed at Palazzo Avino - http://www.palazzoavino.com/

It was fantastic.

Greece may be another good choice. Good weather, good food and good culture.

I second Greece

by bpeters07 @, Sack Lake City, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 14:35 (2537 days ago) @ Rob (Rakes of Mallow)

Athens has some neat historical sites, and since you fly into there anyway you might as well stick around to see the Parthenon, etc. (they just opened a pretty fantastic museum by it). But the best stuff is outside of Athens.

My wife and I were in Greece for an academic conference last summer and had a blast. The islands are gorgeous and relaxing -- Santorini is the one you hear about, and it's nice, but super crowded. We rented bicycles and rode around the perimeter of Spetses, which is a beautiful island, but they allow motorized vehicles so it's a bit busy and noisier. On Hydra (Idra), all cars, ATVs, mopeds, etc. are banned, so it's incredibly peaceful. We stayed there for a couple of days (swimming, drinking, relaxing, eating at Leonard Cohen's favorite taverna...) and just loved it.

We also went to Delphi (gotta go see the oracle!) and were just blown away. Beautiful setting, surreal historical landmarks, and the bang for you buck is just nuts. We thought we were splurging on a crazy nice dinner and it ended up being like €50 (with multiple drinks desserts, and excellent food). And the view was this:

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I felt like I was eating in a piece of artwork.

10/10 would do again.

Hawaii or Costa Rica

by PootND ⌂ @, New Jersey, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:04 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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Hawaii?

by Joe I @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:49 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Personally, if you haven't already been, I'd recommend one of the Hawaiian islands. Kauai is my choice, but you can also find lots (or nothing) to do on Maui, the Big Island, and even Oahu (if you get away from Waikiki).

Lots of other ideas, but more questions also.

Distance from CA, total vacation time, and cost would be factors.

Answers to your questions...

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:52 (2538 days ago) @ Joe I

Distance isn't really a concern. I'd stay open to the entire world, though I'd definitely lean towards central/south America and SE Asia.

Figure around 10-14 days, and $5000 between two people? Budget is flexible. We're not looking for $800/nt hotels, but we don't need to do hostels either.

For SE Asia, I'd add Vietnam / Cambodia / Laos

by Joe I @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:25 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Pete's got some great comments on Thailand, key being to likely avoid the more touristy beaches/islands.

Vietnam / Cambodia / Laos will get you lots of SE Asian culture, beaches, activities and even less expensive than Thailand. Good food to be had and as much adventure as you wish. The more remote you travel, language may become a challenge, but having a good Wifi hotspot for your trip will do wonders.

Myanmar!

by nedhead @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 17:51 (2538 days ago) @ Joe I

Greetings from Ho Chi Minh City, a few days in Vietnam before Lombok.

Laos is the one country we’ve been where we have no desire to go back. And Myanmar is amazing. For getting away, I’d strongly recommend TAO Philippines boat trip.

It'll always be Burma to me

by BPH, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 18:15 (2538 days ago) @ nedhead

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Wife and I did two weeks in Thailand for about $6K.

by Pete, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:24 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Including airfare. That was back in 2010, but I imagine it's still remarkably cheap there. We didn't live high on the hog, but weren't slumming it in backpacking hostels either -- consistently stayed in actual boutique hotels while traveling around the country.

There's definitely a cliched backpacker component to it, but it's honestly pretty isolated to a handful of areas in Bangkok. Kind of like Amsterdam in that the notoriety of the area is actually a very limited part of the city that you actually need to seek out if you want to experience it.

That being said, running down your list:

1. Somewhere off the beaten path - check
2. Relaxing - not itinerary-driven - check, most days we just wandered around the areas we were staying, finding cool spots to eat, temples, etc.
3. Experience a different/new culture - yup
4. Good food! - some of the best in the world IMO
5. Preferably somewhere warm/near a beach. - Thailand has some gorgeous beaches. Some down South are big party hubs, i.e. Phuket, but we managed to find a much less developed area that was gorgeous.
6. Outdoor activities (hiking, biking, walking, etc.) - Perhaps a bit less so in the main vacation spots, but the mountains up north are much less urban and allows for some of that.
7. Interesting sights or architectural interest. - Deffo.

Any insight on non-Bangkok areas?

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:36 (2538 days ago) @ Pete

I've heard Chiang Mai is nice, but that might be a bit touristy also?

Chang Rai is the new Chang Mai

by ndphilo @, A prison of my own design, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:24 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Or so I am told.

When we went, about 7 or so years ago, I didn't really love Chang Mai. The highlights in Thailand for me were the two historic cities, Ayutthaya and Sukhothai. Incredible architecture. You don't get the trees growing out of buildings/jungle recovering the land look that you get at Angkor Watt, and obviously the temples aren't as large, but for striking architecture I found both just as compelling, and a lot less touristy, they the better know Cambodian option. You can bike/hike around both areas, and one is situated on a convergence of rivers for some pretty incredible water views.

Is Mount Agung still erupting? If not, I'd throw Bali in the mix. You can head out the the coast in Ahmed, stay in a little guesthouse right on the water, walk out to snorkel, and wander to whatever little spot had the best catch that day up the beach. Spend a few hours lounging in a hammock. Bliss. Take the ferry across to Nusa Lembongang and spend a few days riding around the island on a moped, paddling through the mangrove forests on a kayak. With a couple weeks, you could do all that and take in some of the iconic temples, and hike the (non-erupting) volcanoes as well. You don't have to set foot in the main tourist areas, Kuta and Ubud, and you would still have an incredible trip.

Chiang Mai is a little touristy

by Pete, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:13 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

but a sliver of the worst you'd find in Bangkok. Frame of reference: Bangkok's population is 8.5 million people. Chiang Mai's is 120,000. Basically none of the stereotypical "Bangkok hedonism" that unfortunately is sometimes associated with the whole country.

A lot of people use it as a hub for the more remote northern mountain area of Thailand, tours and whatnot.

As far as beaches go, generally the southern end of Thailand is more developed and douchey. Koh Phi Phi is gorgeous, but we didn't get to actually go there so I'm not sure how developed that's become. Phuket is apparently a raver-style hellhole.

We went to Koh Chang for our beach portion of the trip, which is an island on the northern end of the country near Cambodia. Far, far less developed than the southern beaches (at least that was the case nearly a decade ago), but gorgeous beaches, water, mountains, etc.

We basically broke up our trip as Bangkok (Bangkok), Chiang Mai (northern Thailand, mountains) and Koh Chang (beaches). Bangkok kind of served as a hub across the course of the travels.

One side trip we really, really enjoyed was this floating market in an area called Amphawa, which is about an hour or so from Bangkok. Bangkok has its own floating market, but my understanding is that it's a total tourist trap. The one in Amphawa seemed to be frequented primarily by Thais themselves.

To give you a sense, arabic letters have completely disappeared from the road signs by the time you get to this area. We got dropped off in the middle of town by our "bus" from Bangkok, which was really a big van where the driver took a quick detour to pick up his laundry along the way. Ended up hopping on the back of some guy's moped after a helpful local flagged down the clearly lost farangs and pointed them towards their hotel.

Another market near that area is also pretty cool and you may have seen something about it in the past. Meklong Market is the street market that literally sits on train tracks, and the vendors have to regularly pull back their awnings to allow trains to pass through. Pretty sure Bourdain visited it on one of his assumedly dozens of trips through Thailand for various television programs.

I found CM to be like a western city,

by nedhead @, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 18:14 (2538 days ago) @ Pete

Which is why I think westerners love it. Small buildings and houses, cafes everywhere, a large central area, cars and money everywhere — like nothing I’ve really come across elsewhere. Great place, and we needed the coffee. Lots of people rent a motorbike and do a 3 day trip to CR.

Bangkok was very different for us this time around. It’s a modern, crowded city with a ton of good foreign food options, along with the delicious local cuisine - everything you’d expect from a major city. Chinatown was terrible this time. I’m sure there’s still a seedy underbelly, like all big cities, but it’s not prominent. We thought it was very different than about 3-4 years ago.

man through airport turnstile sideways

by Jay @, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:38 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

going to Bangkok

Where are you, West Coast or East Coast?

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:34 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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I'm on the West Coast.

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:41 (2538 days ago) @ Grantland

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If you want to try the East Coast...

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:51 (2538 days ago) @ Joe
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...I love Hope Town in Abaco, Bahamas.

Also I love Little Dix Bay in BVA.

Finally, if you are at all interested in coming this way I have a ND buddy who works with a big resort in the Islands. Could hook y'all up if you want.

But kinda of a long way to go for what I assume you can get and better where Jay mentioned or otherwise around the Pacific.

EDIT: Anywhere in or around the Caribbean is subject to being closed because of hurricane damage.

Caribbean side is not out of the question.

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:56 (2538 days ago) @ Grantland

I mentioned below, we naturally gravitated towards Central/South America (Costa Rica and Belize are on the list of places *I* would love to see) but we're really just looking to get some recommendations and narrow it down from there.

The wife would love to see Mayan stuff, so that might be a push towards the Mexico/Central America option, though places like Thailand and Vietnam are on the table, so I wouldn't rule out the Virgin Islands or places out of hand.

Appreciate the help and recommendations!

No worries. Let me know if you want me to hook you

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:08 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

up with by buddy. He is with Sandals resorts.

EDIT: but I still think Seychelles.

Sicily.

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:12 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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Seychelles.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:33 (2538 days ago) @ PMan

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That's on my bucket list

by Aaron (Shakespeare), Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:37 (2538 days ago) @ Grantland

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Both Sicily and Seychelles are on mine.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:39 (2538 days ago) @ Aaron (Shakespeare)

My mom's dad is from Siracusa.

Tybee Island, GA.

by Grantland, y'allywood, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:06 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

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Mexico, south of Cancun

by Jay @, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:00 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Playa del Carmen, Puerto Aventuras, that area. It's got EVERYTHING:

* nice places to stay

* lots of outdoorsy stuff

* nice beaches

* cool things to do and explore, like cenotes and river floats

* ancient ruins

* pretty easy & cheap to get to

Dynamite, pole vaulting, laughing gas

by DEM, Chicago, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 10:24 (2537 days ago) @ Jay

choppers.....


If gouing with this suggestion, I'd go all the way down to Tuluum.

You missed a real Stefon opportunity there.

by Mike (Embrey), Mountain Holler, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:31 (2537 days ago) @ Jay

Playa del Carmen, Puerto Aventuras, that area. It's got EVERYTHING:

* nice places to stay

* lots of outdoorsy stuff

* nice beaches

* cool things to do and explore, like cenotes and river floats

* puppets in disguise

* Mugsey Bogues

* ancient ruins

* pretty easy & cheap to get to

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human fire hydrants

by Jay @, San Diego, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:35 (2537 days ago) @ Mike (Embrey)

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Fig thing Irish

by Jeff (BGS) @, A starter home in suburban Tempe, Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:36 (2537 days ago) @ Jay
edited by Jeff (BGS), Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 09:40

http://www.bluegraysky.com/forum/index.php?id=169164

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also Mexico: Southwest added flights direct to Cabo from SD

by Jay @, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:52 (2538 days ago) @ Jay

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No safety concerns with Mexico?

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:04 (2538 days ago) @ Jay

I'll admit that's the main reason Mexico wasn't an obvious choice for me. I don't want to spend my afterlife adorning a bridge somewhere.

Not if you are in a tourist area and not running drugs

by JD in Portland @, Portland OR, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:19 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

It’s way overblown.
Wash DC and Chicago are more dangerous.
I love Zihuatanejo in Mexico and the quieter nearby town of Troncones.
I’m not sure where you live but there’s a non stop flight from Minneapolis.
Zihuat is an unusually nice airport for Mexico as well

I was hoping to make a profit on the trip...

by Joe ⌂ @, North Endzone Goal Line, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 13:23 (2538 days ago) @ JD in Portland

...but I guess that's out the window.

In all seriousness though, this thread has alleviated my concerns about Mexico quite a bit. We'll start including that more often in the discussion.

The wife and I went to Cancun last August

by Chris (HCC) @, Paradise, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:55 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

Didn't have any safety concerns at all. From talking to folks, tourists are left alone for the most part as messing with the tourism industry messes with a lot of money that hurts everyone.

We had a great time, but we weren't adventure hunting or anything, so your experience might vary from ours. We literally just wanted to get away from our kids and do nothing but eat, drink and hang out on beaches. I didn't want to hear kids, I didn't want to see kids, I didn't want to know that kids existed in the world. So, we just hung out at the adults-only resort that had solid food and drank ourselves silly for a week. Best week of my life.

That said, we did hit this private cenote that was owned and run by a tour company and got to repel down into it and swim around for an hour or so. THAT was a pretty great experience.

I don't think so

by Jay @, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:39 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

It's all pretty touristy. Petty crime would be your only issue. I say this as someone who pops down to Tijuana for dinner from time to time so YMMV.

Be sure to check up on auto insurance requirements/coverage in Mexico (as you will need wheels for that area to visit all the cool stuff, unless you are just planning on joining excursions that operate out of the resorts).

You can also utilize the Collectivo -- the van service

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:41 (2538 days ago) @ Jay

that runs up and down the main drag. It's less luxurious, but it's efficient and effective. And cheap. Not sure if it gets you everywhere you need to go, but it certainly got us to the Tulum ruins.

in addition to Tulum, the Coba ruins inland are spectacular

by Jay @, San Diego, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:46 (2538 days ago) @ BillyGoat

If things haven't changed, you can climb the ancient temples (if you're not faint of heart).

We were there two years ago, and that stretch of the

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:12 (2538 days ago) @ Joe

world is pretty safe. Other areas are less so. I'm not aware of any cartel activity on the Riviera Maya.

Yes, we stayed all the way down by Tulum, and it was great.

by BillyGoat, At Thanksgiving with Joe Bethersontin, Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 12:03 (2538 days ago) @ Jay

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