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3rd play: McCarron to Cooper for 27

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 12:42
edited by Jay, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 12:48

This is four plays after the long pass to Norwood, same drive. Still first quarter, score 14-0.

Here's the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Zx0TMuJuLxQ#t=1792s
Go to 29:55 if the link doesn't take you there directly.

After a couple of Yeldon rushes, the ball is on the ND 33. It's 3rd & 6.

presnap read:

* Motta is out of the picture to the left
* Nix has subbed out (not sure this made any difference)

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* McCarron in shotgun

* Norwood motions across formation to wing

* Russell looks back at Motta as Norwood comes over, and makes some kind of gesture

* At the snap, Norwood will run a short out while Cooper goes on a deep corner.

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* Russell takes Norwood

* Motta (I guess) is supposed to take Cooper, but gets over way too late.

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* There is some pressure but McCarron doesn't hold it for long.

* easy pitch and catch for McCarron/Cooper, setting up the 3rd Alabama touchdown.

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We are not THAT much worse than they, are we?

by Grantland @, y'allywood, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 15:08 @ Jay

WTF??

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I think this one's all on Zeke

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 12:50 @ Jay

Boy, he had a bad game.

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Agree

by Busco21, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 14:33 @ Jay

Wow, I was assuming the receiver had made a nice inside deke (toward the post) or something like that to get that open. Then I saw the replay. Umm, nope.

In ND's Cover 2 the CB's do drop deeper than many I've seen, trying to force the QB to put air under it on a corner route (then reacting up to a pass in front of them in the flat.) But that's no excuse for this play.

Especially since it looked like there was good communication before the play.

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So what?

by Pete, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 14:43 @ Busco21

We got our doors blown off early and our sphincters tightened, leading to dumb mistakes and silly decisions?

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Possible

by Busco21, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 16:15 @ Pete

ND wouldn't be the first team to have that happen. When things are going the wrong way and you have no momentum, some guys do tighten up a bit and kind of "hope" things will start going their way, rather than getting after it and making things go their way. Not saying I think it was the case or that Motta played that way, just a possibility.

Personally I'd label that #34 in the approximately 100 things that might help explain that game.

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Ya'll put my mind at ease a bit.

by Grantland @, y'allywood, Thursday, June 20, 2013, 09:23 @ Busco21

I think/hope (and I would never say this outside of Notre Dame circles) but did We just hit a convergence of circumstances that screwed Us.

The Teo thing combined with the two bad calls early in the game combined with the buzz saw that is the current Alabama program put us completely on our heels in a game that we were like going to lose by 10-14 points anyway.

Not that it matters, but is that at least a bit likely? I mean, if no Teo event and we keep that muffed punt, might we have been at least respectable???

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talent vs talent

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Thursday, June 20, 2013, 09:35 @ Grantland

If you go through that exercise of "who on ND would have started for Alabama" you pretty quickly see it's a short list. It's basically Te'o, Nix, Eifert, and Tuitt. At every other position, Alabama had the better player. Could it have been 10-14 points closer? Sure. But I don't think there's much shame in losing to those guys.

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Yeah, a point that I had blocked out along with that entire

by Grantland @, y'allywood, Thursday, June 20, 2013, 09:39 @ Jay

game. If you go just by rivals recruiting rankings, they have had the top 1 class all but one of the last 5-6 years and the one that was not #1 was like #5.

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Two thoughts

by Greg, the 'Dena, Thursday, June 20, 2013, 09:27 @ Grantland

(1) I do think that we were not as good as Bama, and absent a lack of focus by them (which prior to the game we all thought possible due to them staying at that hipster hotel) and a laser focus by us, combined with a few breaks going our way, we were going to lose. This is all in retrospect, of course, because going into the game I expected to win. But I do think, and I take this in small part from a first-hand account of what the team was like in January when they returned to campus, that losing bad was better than losing close because it let them know how far they have to go to win a game like that, and they practiced/lifted/prepared accordingly this winter.

(2) I also think that, had the two calls been reversed we would have stuck closer. I envision a 10-13 point loss. Which again, echoing the above, would have been close enough that maybe our coaches and players would think we were just a few plays away from winning (tm L.T. Willingham) rather than needed to really work to get better.

So overall, if we were going to lose, I'm glad we lost the way we did because it's better for the further growth of the team. But boy did it suck that night.

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#asshat

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Man did it ever suck.

by Grantland @, y'allywood, Thursday, June 20, 2013, 09:42 @ Greg

I might have already told you all this, but I was down there with a UGA fan. About 4 plays in, ESSEEESEEEE, BS.

I said, "I don't see any fucking red and black jerseys on that field" and promptly went back to my hotel room to watch.

Ugh. I am not over it yet.

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I'm sorry.

by Greg, the 'Dena, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 17:14 @ Busco21

The subject line we were looking for was "So Let's Dance". No points to Gryffindor.

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Can't believe I missed that

by Busco21, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 21:11 @ Greg

although not a Journey fan, no song has ever been more associated with a certain comment than "So", "So what?" "So...let's dance" than "Any Way You Want It".

Watching the film of that game was painful. Thinking about that made me smile.

"I put it to you Greg..."

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Certainly helps to explain his drop in the draft

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 13:01 @ Jay

I remember being surprised when Mayock started talking about him being a "3rd round type" talent, but as the season went on, he kept having quality game after quality game, with no one beating the defense over the top.

But the Bama game and his blah combine numbers really killed his stock.

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on this play, I honestly can't figure out

by Jay ⌂, San Diego, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 13:17 @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

who else he thought he should be covering. It was 3rd & 6, Alabama is in shotgun with passing personnel in the game. You pretty much know it's a pass. There's no play-action to bait you. You have two receivers running routes on your half and the corner has the underneath guy. Yet you're a full three steps away when he makes the catch. WTF?

I have to think Harrison Smith might have intercepted this one, or at least broken it up.

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I was about to ask if there was anyone else he was covering

by JN @, Seattle, Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 13:23 @ Jay

Wonder what Russell was saying pre-snap. Maybe "I got these guys. You can take this play off."

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