Zahm rector abuse report has been released

by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 11:15 (12 days ago)

Everybody knew about King in the '80s

by Dylan, Friday, May 29, 2026, 07:03 (11 days ago) @ Jay

He should be defrocked, thrown out of his retirement home, and put on trial. ND should be made to eat shit daily until every one of the abusers is held to account.

This could be a statement after a mass shooting:

by Grantland, y'allywood, Friday, May 29, 2026, 06:17 (11 days ago) @ Jay

"In a joint statement to the University community, Veihmeyer and Father Dowd expressed their sincere remorse to those who were harmed, apologized for what they have endured, and reaffirmed the University’s commitment to the safety and well-being of every person in the campus community.

"'We are deeply disturbed by these findings and wish to extend our deepest apologies to the victims for what they endured,' the statement reads. 'The conduct described in this report is antithetical to everything Notre Dame stands for and to the dignity and respect owed to every member of this community.'"

Fuck them...

Contains a perfect description of Zahm

by Publicola, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 13:46 (12 days ago) @ Jay

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new info in there about rector of Sorin, Fr. Porterfield

by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 14:40 (12 days ago) @ Publicola

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ND Student Affairs people in the 80s and 90s...

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 15:55 (12 days ago) @ Jay

come off terrible, as they should.

King positioned Student Affairs as the enemy

by Flann ⌂, Central New Jersey, Friday, May 29, 2026, 05:03 (11 days ago) @ PMan

And himself as the the protector of students against an overzealous student affairs. This was easy enough to do given Student Affairs’ relationship antagonistic attitudes toward students. Punishments were handled in house and to my knowledge mostly consisted of cleaning up and light maintenance around the dorm and the landscaping. Student Affairs made a great foil to establish trust and a reputation of King being on the student’s side.

From the report:
Multiple witnesses report that Fr. King enjoyed his role as rector. He took great pride in Zahm, and several witnesses recalled that Fr. King studied the pictures of the incoming students and knew their names even before they arrived. Fr. King was a nonconformist, who was at times at odds with administrators. For example, several witnesses stated that Fr. King preferred handling discipline directly. Rather than escalating matters to Student Affairs, Fr. King would impose his version of disciplinary measures within the hall.

This is exactly like my rector.

by Silk, St. Louis, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:46 (11 days ago) @ Flann
edited by Silk, Friday, May 29, 2026, 10:31

Formerly of Flanner and newly of Morrissey in my era.

He knew every last one of us by name on arrival. Discipline handled in house in all but the most extreme situations. And there was a joke about being "[lastname]ed" - that is, he'd rub your back in a hug, then get a grab of your butt.

I'm unaware of anything worse than that, and he left the CSCs about 20 years ago to marry a high school friend. I am friends with him on social media, and he seems to be doing well.

But it all sounds like the same playbook.

Ditto for my Grace rector

by KelleyCook @, Saturday, May 30, 2026, 06:48 (10 days ago) @ Silk

He has since passed.

I never had a problem with him; good friends of mine did, though.

What makes things difficult

by Greg, seemingly ranch, Friday, May 29, 2026, 11:09 (11 days ago) @ Silk

and he was my rector in the tower, just FTR.

But what makes things difficult is that those uncomfortable "locker room" moments aside nothing ever seemed to be predatory with him. The times I and/or my buddies were in bad shape coming in the door he didn't get involved but instead had an RA or the friends of the guy in bad shape make sure they got safely up to their rooms. I never heard rumors of anything beyond the, for lack of a better term, flagrant and public stuff. Like, when my grandmother died and I went for some counseling because I wasn't going to get home for the funeral, there was no grabassery at all.

And why does that make things difficult? Because with Burtchaell known to all of us coming into the school, and with the rumors about other rectors (like King), and with the flagrant nature of the hugs or other ass-slappery, it normalized the stuff that did happen. But was it normal? In retrospect not at all, but in the context of the early-1990s and the stories about the truly disgusting and the general attempts to make a 500-plus person dorm into a home, it took on that "locker room" feel I described above. So nothing was said, certainly not by me, even though in retrospect things should have been said.

I lost touch with him after his departure and marriage. Traded Christmas cards for a while as he started the family and then one came back undeliverable and that was that. Glad to hear that the next phase of his life treated him well.

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The 2007 ND-UCLA game was a once in a lifetime experience, I hope

I suspect

by Silk, St. Louis, Friday, May 29, 2026, 11:24 (11 days ago) @ Greg

he's divorced now. Just some standard FB stalking.

I agree with everything you said, and aside from the one move we joked about, he was a great priest and leader in my two years with him. When he left the priesthood, he'd moved fairly high up - religious superior, BOT, etc. - and that could contribute to some of what we're learning now, too.

It can't all just go back to modern politics, of course, but it's pretty shocking what people are willing to accept from those ostensibly in positions of power and/or respect, whether in our Church, on the campus of our alma mater, or among our elected officials.

Have they ever not been the enemy?

by HullieAndMikes, Yelling at Sam Cane, Dunedin, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:26 (11 days ago) @ Flann

I ask because I am genuinely curious if things have changed, given various generational differences with today's students.

In my era (2000-04) they very much were still the Big Bad, and were working overtime to sand off the last remaining edges of the student body.

I was there at (roughly) the same time

by Jeremy (WeIsND), Offices of Babip Pecota Vorp & Eckstein, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:36 (11 days ago) @ HullieAndMikes

It sounds like things got better once Bill Kirk left ResLife, but I don't know how much better.

For awhile I think they got briefly worse?

by HullieAndMikes, Yelling at Sam Cane, Dunedin, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:40 (11 days ago) @ Jeremy (WeIsND)

My memory on the exact timeline is foggy but at one point there was some sort of dragnet/sting operation off and on at Main Circle to nab students leaving or coming back to campus. The roots of that were certainly in the early 2000s, and I had firsthand experience with similar operations.

Kids in general drink far less (and socialize in person less) so I could see things being different now, depending on how much the median ND kid has changed. On the other hand, the shifting societal acceptance of weed could be opening up other conflicts (again, depending on the current median ND kid).

I did not mean to imply King isn't terrible.

by PMan @, The Banks of the Spokane River, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:13 (11 days ago) @ Flann

And, as you said, used Student Affairs as part of his grooming.

Just that there are several instances in the report where Student Affairs was told, did nothing, and now don't even recall being told.

So many admin come across either as neglegent or incompetent

by bpeters07 @, Sack Lake City, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:51 (11 days ago) @ PMan

This is from perhaps the most disturbing incident in the report. Right after detailing the assault on "2025 Reporter" on p.18, the report goes on to say:

In the early 2000s, after graduating from Notre Dame, the student disclosed his experience with Fr. King at Holy Cross College to the VP of Student Affairs at Holy Cross College. The student recalled that during the meeting, the VP of Student Affairs stated that she would look into his allegations. The student never received any follow-up from Holy Cross College or the administrator. The administrator had no memory of this conversation, though she was adamant that if she had told the student that she was handling the situation, she would have followed through.[17]

[17] Notwithstanding her lack of recollection, she noted that the 2025 Reporter should not be discounted simply because she did not recall the conversation.

Student Affairs deserved its awful reputation in the 90s

by Flann ⌂, Central New Jersey, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:43 (11 days ago) @ PMan

I am not sure about how it operates today. There are many problems with having the enforcement of regulations and rules done in an unfair or capricious way. One of them is that people will begin to operate outside the system and enforce rules in-house. This can work on occasion and for a time. But the inherent secrecy necessary can protect evil actors, whether in IRA run neighborhoods in Belfast, or in Zahm Hall in the 1990s. Honestly, I thought it did work in Zahm, until I found out it clearly didn’t.

King's disciplinary "system" was similarly arbitrary

by Publicola, Friday, May 29, 2026, 08:58 (11 days ago) @ Flann

I'm not sure what his decision rules were, but based on the report, I assume he was most willing to turn a blind eye to the fratty sexual assaults/"jokes" (and also probably all but the most egregious incidents of alcohol abuse, but that was a campus-wide issue during our time). But there was other stuff he didn't hesitate to refer to Student Affairs. There was that time in the week leading up to Odin 1991 where some dickheads pennied us into our room while we were asleep and then sprayed a fire extinguisher -- the powder kind that eats up oxygen -- through our open transom. I was furious (obviously -- waking up choking is frightening) but didn't say anything about it to King or anyone. Those guys were kicked out of the dorm and I think suspended for a semester. I assume King could've buried that if he wanted to. Maybe he was pissed because it jeopardized Odin or something like that. There was the whole drug issue in our first year that saw a bunch of people in front of Student Affairs, but maybe I think maybe that involved other dorms as well, so not something King had exclusive control over.

Anyway, I suppose the unpredictability was the point -- gave him maximum leverage. And, at the time, you'd definitely rather take your chances with King than with Student Affairs, which is what he wanted for many different reasons.

As a '94 grad, can confirm.

by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 18:34 (12 days ago) @ PMan
edited by KGB, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 18:46

It definitely felt like we were the enemy in those years. There was a palpable sense of antagonism from that department that was rather unifying (and occasionally intoxicating, no pun intended) among dormmates and friends around campus. Strong Dean Wormer vibes.

In retrospect, it's just fucking sad, particularly when the issue runs as deep as this. The University was empowered to protect these kids and instead let them down in so many different ways.

Well said.

by Irish96, Friday, May 29, 2026, 09:51 (11 days ago) @ KGB

It's sad that I still remember the names Patty O'Hara and Bill Kirk. And not fondly either.

Porterfield's predatory creepy behavior was well known

by Captains Corner @, Empty nest in a Dallas high rise, Thursday, May 28, 2026, 15:52 (12 days ago) @ Jay

Living in Sorin Hall from 1978-1982, it was openly known that the Rector Porterfield was a sexual predator.

He was abruptly removed in 1983 as Rector. Good Riddance!

The decision by the University to allow him back onto Campus was disgraceful.

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