I know it is.
by domer.mq 
, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 07:26 (2107 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)
But the vast majority of Americans have no idea that that's the case.
You're trying to fight a battle today that was lost in 2016. Trump won. McConnell fucked everyone. Trump gets to name at least 2 SCOUTS justices. Fin.
The roadmap to winning 2018 is sitting their in the polling numbers, and you folks all want to ignore it to have a fight that 1) was already lost, and 2) my lovely, well-intentioned, but frankly sort of dumb aunt has no idea about and doesn't care about. But you can be damned sure when the GOP starts talking about baby killers again, she'll at least hear them.
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Complete thread:
- OT - Yikes! Its getting ugly out there -
hobbs,
2018-07-10, 14:33
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- Getting Ugly? -
Romulox,
2018-07-10, 15:05
- Or this -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-10, 20:11
- Jesus -
Mark,
2018-07-10, 21:59
- If only it were the "radical right" -
MHB (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-07-10, 23:34
- At least the Schlapps had to celebrate their anniversary... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 06:42
- Liberal equivalent to Stormfront, really? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 06:59
- I'm just seeing this thread now... - MTIrish, 2018-07-11, 14:23
- Oh good lord. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:09
- My apologies for taking your words at face value -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 07:50
- Wouldn't the analogue be actual Communists? -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:26
- I'll buy that -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 08:31
- I think it is possible. We are not there yet. -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:32
- This is my fear ... - Mark, 2018-07-11, 14:13
- Again, the center has failed -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 08:52
- Yeah, because the far left and far right have done so well - Jack, 2018-07-11, 12:17
- I would put a finer point on it -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-11, 09:01
- Spot on
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Mark,
2018-07-11, 14:16
- When was the last time "the Center" was in power? -
Jack,
2018-07-11, 12:15
- I'm not saying The Center is bad - Mike (bart), 2018-07-11, 12:24
- Barack Obama desperately wanted to be a centrist -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 12:20
- While true... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 12:32
- Oh yea, absolutely - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-07-11, 12:34
- While true... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 12:32
- Spot on
- I mean, isn't it still a big tent? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 08:43
- Not nationally. Not with leadership. Not... -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:49
- What is this thread? - Romulox, 2018-07-11, 09:13
- Out of curiousity, what in particular makes you feel that? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 08:52
- Secularization, tone, and leadership -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 10:11
- How do Democrats not respect your religious freedom? -
Romulox,
2018-07-11, 10:31
- Because religious freedom is more than just where you -
Dave,
2018-07-11, 11:23
- I'd like to respond to these points. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-07-12, 03:35
- Couple thoughts in response -
Greg,
2018-07-12, 08:07
- But again - Chris (HCC), 2018-07-12, 09:25
- Everything you wrote about gay marriage - HCE, 2018-07-12, 08:45
- A quick response. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-07-12, 08:40
- Thanks -
Greg,
2018-07-12, 08:46
- Thanks
- Couple thoughts in response -
Greg,
2018-07-12, 08:07
- How do you think non-Christians feel -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 13:45
- I agree - Romulox, 2018-07-11, 15:33
- While I don't agree with every point here... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 12:25
- yeah why not work somewhere else? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 15:07
- I have no empathy... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 19:30
- Right, that was definitely true in the past -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-12, 06:15
- Excellent post, I would add that -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 06:29
- But do we want to increase home ownership? -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 06:38
- I mean, I wouldsay it's been far over-fetishized -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 06:47
- Right. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:11
- Rent controls are generally bad, imo -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 07:19
- What would SF look like without rent control? -
Romulox,
2018-07-12, 09:23
- It's an after the fact remedy -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 09:43
- How much more supply can SF even handle? -
Romulox,
2018-07-12, 10:43
- terrain is probably a bigger constraint than land area - Mike (bart), 2018-07-12, 11:36
- How much more supply can SF even handle? -
Romulox,
2018-07-12, 10:43
- It's an after the fact remedy -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 09:43
- What would SF look like without rent control? -
Romulox,
2018-07-12, 09:23
- Rent controls are generally bad, imo -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 07:19
- Right. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:11
- I mean, I wouldsay it's been far over-fetishized -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 06:47
- But do we want to increase home ownership? -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 06:38
- Detroit basically became Motown... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 06:27
- Where racist banks promptly redlined them. -
Romulox,
2018-07-12, 08:34
- Keep in mind, I'm not disagreeing with your overall point - Chris (HCC), 2018-07-12, 07:43
- Uhhhhh there was something else happening then -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-12, 07:32
- Duh. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:41
- Have you read any of the stuff linked here? -
CW (Rakes),
2018-07-12, 07:52
- This is where we're just never going to see eye-to-eye. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:55
- Can't see eye-to-eye if only one side looks at the facts. - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2018-07-12, 12:00
- This is where we're just never going to see eye-to-eye. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:55
- Have you read any of the stuff linked here? -
CW (Rakes),
2018-07-12, 07:52
- Duh. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-12, 07:41
- Detroit became Mowtown initially - Mike (bart), 2018-07-12, 06:33
- Where racist banks promptly redlined them.
- Excellent post, I would add that -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-12, 06:29
- Except for all the parts that were literally built by slaves - Romulox, 2018-07-11, 20:46
- Great point - CW (Rakes), 2018-07-11, 20:15
- Right, that was definitely true in the past -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-12, 06:15
- I have no empathy... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 19:30
- It's a two way street - Mike (bart), 2018-07-11, 12:34
- yeah why not work somewhere else? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 15:07
- I'd like to respond to these points. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-07-12, 03:35
- Because religious freedom is more than just where you -
Dave,
2018-07-11, 11:23
- Do you have any concern -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 10:13
- I do ... -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 14:23
- It isn't the President's fault for engaging in such - BillyGoat, 2018-07-11, 14:51
- From Woodward's book and other sources... -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 14:30
- And that's my problem w Kavanaugh -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 14:48
- Here you go -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 14:55
- And that was exactly my point ... -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 20:54
- Its not his job to "speak out" -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-07-12, 08:04
- We clearly disagree ... -
Mark,
2018-07-12, 09:47
- Guess I'm not comfortable - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2018-07-12, 11:05
- We clearly disagree ... -
Mark,
2018-07-12, 09:47
- Its not his job to "speak out" -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-07-12, 08:04
- Exactly... -
BillyGoat,
2018-07-11, 15:00
- Yep. And I agree with your point above. -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 15:02
- The little checks aren’t balancing, Clark -
BillyGoat,
2018-07-11, 16:07
- [emoji thumbs up] -
Greg,
2018-07-12, 08:09
- [emoji thumbs up]
- The little checks aren’t balancing, Clark -
BillyGoat,
2018-07-11, 16:07
- Yep. And I agree with your point above.
- And that was exactly my point ... -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 20:54
- Here you go -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 14:55
- And that's my problem w Kavanaugh -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 14:48
- He had that concern... -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 10:44
- I heard (and this may be left wing fake news) - CK08, 2018-07-11, 10:49
- I do ... -
Mark,
2018-07-11, 14:23
- How do Democrats not respect your religious freedom? -
Romulox,
2018-07-11, 10:31
- Institutionalized Dem. power centers can be very sclerotic - Mike (bart), 2018-07-11, 09:10
- Secularization, tone, and leadership -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 10:11
- Not nationally. Not with leadership. Not... -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:49
- I think it is possible. We are not there yet. -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:32
- I'll buy that -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 08:31
- Wouldn't the analogue be actual Communists? -
Greg,
2018-07-11, 08:26
- Because this Supreme Court pick is important -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:12
- YOU. You can care about more than 1 thing at a time. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:18
- It doesn't help that the Dems are really bad at politics -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-07-11, 07:54
- Reflexively, I'm with you, esp. on the SCOTUS pick, -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-11, 07:49
- I'm entirely with them on the unfairness of it all. - domer.mq, 2018-07-11, 08:18
- The Supreme Court is just as important -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:22
- I know it is. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:26
- Here's my advice to you: -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:29
- Please, show me where I'm wrong. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:35
- What does "not fucking this up" mean? -
CK08,
2018-07-11, 09:39
- It was something like D+13 in December. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 10:08
- It was at D+4 like two months ago - CK08, 2018-07-11, 10:46
- The conservative media machine, mostly -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 10:10
- It was something like D+13 in December. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 10:08
- What does "not fucking this up" mean? -
CK08,
2018-07-11, 09:39
- Please, show me where I'm wrong. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:35
- Here's my advice to you: -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:29
- I know it is. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:26
- It doesn't help that the Dems are really bad at politics
- YOU. You can care about more than 1 thing at a time. -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:18
- My apologies for taking your words at face value -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 07:50
- Holy shit is that an offensive last sentence -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-07-11, 06:46
- Yes, because it's impossible... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 06:57
- Your namedrop of Stormfront is unconscionable -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-07-11, 07:06
- On the one side, white nationalists -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:10
- Yes. Nobody has ever killed millions of people... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:12
- This post is awful - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-07-11, 07:14
- Yes. Nobody has ever killed millions of people... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 07:12
- On the one side, white nationalists -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-07-11, 07:10
- Your namedrop of Stormfront is unconscionable -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-07-11, 07:06
- Yes, because it's impossible... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 06:57
- Liberal equivalent to Stormfront, really? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-07-11, 06:59
- At least the Schlapps had to celebrate their anniversary... -
domer.mq,
2018-07-11, 06:42
- If only it were the "radical right" -
MHB (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-07-10, 23:34
- Jesus -
Mark,
2018-07-10, 21:59
- Or this -
Mike (bart),
2018-07-10, 20:11
- New rule -
KGB,
2018-07-10, 14:55
- There was a situation at a hotel in Pasadena last month - Greg, 2018-07-11, 08:29
- Getting Ugly? -
Romulox,
2018-07-10, 15:05