They don't want to live where it's cold
they'd rather hang out where it's sunny. Or where they can party, or they don't want to go to school, etc etc etc.
Because they want to hang out for three or four years until they're ready for the NFL.
To address your edit: We don't go after them because they don't want to go here, for any number of reasons. Take Zach Harrison, top 10 defensive end out of Ohio. We tried to recruit him! He said no. Because he'd rather just hang out at Ohio State, which is fine for him, I guess.
Complete thread:
- Andrew Kristofic, OT from PA, just committed -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-23, 16:56
- He's not a plug-and-play prospect -
Buffalo,
2018-04-24, 07:06
- Honest question re Stanford? -
JD in Portland,
2018-04-24, 10:58
- That's happened a handful of times -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:42
- In fairness... -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 12:08
- I've found myself wondering, though... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 13:05
- The world seemed so bright and wonderful that night - Brendan, 2018-04-25, 07:02
- I've found myself wondering, though... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 13:05
- In fairness... -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 12:08
- last time they beat us in class ranking head to head was '12 - Jay, 2018-04-24, 11:05
- I think Stanford hurts ND - HumanRobot, 2018-04-24, 11:04
- That's happened a handful of times -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:42
- Some numbers from the current and just finished cycles -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:25
- Rivals top 50 for 2019 -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 12:19
- Only 6 West of the Rockies -
PasadenaDomer,
2018-04-24, 14:48
- 10 of the top 50 in 2018. - KGB, 2018-04-25, 12:29
- Absolutely - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:22
- Only 6 West of the Rockies -
PasadenaDomer,
2018-04-24, 14:48
- Was Jaylon the last five star? And Kiel before? -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:03
- ND's Composite five-stars under Kelly -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- I don’t get the “DC hates recruiting” archetype -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 14:38
- I've wondered about that too -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 06:54
- I think it's hurt us enormously -
Jack,
2018-04-25, 08:06
- Ah yes -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 08:09
- And it’s not just that they didn’t get 5* guys -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-25, 08:48
- Exactly. It's indefensible. Diaco's "profiles" were just a - BillyGoat, 2018-04-25, 09:15
- And it’s not just that they didn’t get 5* guys -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-25, 08:48
- Ah yes -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 08:09
- I think it's hurt us enormously -
Jack,
2018-04-25, 08:06
- I've wondered about that too -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 06:54
- I don’t get the “DC hates recruiting” archetype -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 14:38
- Tommy Kraemer was a 5 star -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 11:05
- Quenton Nelson, too -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:53
- Penn State has some pull there - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:05
- It's in our historical footprint. Lots more non-football - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 11:57
- Quenton Nelson, too -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:53
- ND's Composite five-stars under Kelly -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- Thanks for this - Mike (bart), 2018-04-24, 10:51
- Thanks Brendan - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 10:40
- Rivals top 50 for 2019 -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 12:19
- Nothing from the Holtz era is meaningful anymore IMO. -
PAK,
2018-04-24, 09:42
- First and foremost .... -
Mark,
2018-04-24, 11:18
- and, of course, Vinny. - Grantland, 2018-04-24, 11:22
- I'd add that the ranking methodology back then - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 10:28
- Damn it PAK, Jay and I are meaningful. - Grantland, 2018-04-24, 10:07
- First and foremost .... -
Mark,
2018-04-24, 11:18
- Because we are a program -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 08:59
- And it's against school rules to have sex. -
Grantland,
2018-04-24, 10:08
- This is a really important point we probably gloss over. - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 10:10
- And it's against school rules to have sex. -
Grantland,
2018-04-24, 10:08
- I mean how many plug and play prospects has ND ever had..... -
Domer99,
2018-04-24, 07:59
- About one every seven or eight years on the OL - Jack, 2018-04-24, 10:19
- O-line is a bad example for this. -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 09:06
- If your program is healty, there is virtually no such thing - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 09:13
- I don't think we go after that many -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 07:36
- I don't get it -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 09:47
- it's more a function of 5 stars being a very small group -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:15
- "institutional fits" is doing a lot of work there -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- The argument is -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:39
- I want to congratulate you -
Greg,
2018-04-24, 11:45
- And the 40-year decision pays off once more. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 11:48
- I want to congratulate you -
Greg,
2018-04-24, 11:45
- who said "worse people?" I certainly didn't -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:37
- So is the thought that -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:49
- I certainly didn't mean it that way - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2018-04-24, 11:34
- I agree with Jeremy too -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:53
- Their risk-reward calculation is much different - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:18
- So is the thought that -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:49
- The argument is -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:39
- "institutional fits" is doing a lot of work there -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- Because with limited exceptions -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 09:52
- We have had success with 5-stars in the past decade -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 10:53
- Again, if he hints that he's shying away -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:27
- And if our offensive line coach didn't leave - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 11:28
- Again, if he hints that he's shying away -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:27
- I don't see why they're mutually exclusive -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:00
- Palo Alto, California, is famously not South Bend, Indiana -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:07
- One argument at a time please EDIT: to add -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:16
- They don't want to live where it's cold -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:18
- People can hack on Kelly for any number of things -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:10
- And what's been our payoff when the staff has killed -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 11:56
- Yep. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 12:06
- And what's been our payoff when the staff has killed -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 11:56
- Exactly re Harrison -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- FWIW, Parsons was a horrific fit for ND anyway -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:33
- Heh, and right on cue... - Brendan, 2018-04-26, 10:02
- FWIW, Parsons was a horrific fit for ND anyway -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:33
- People can hack on Kelly for any number of things -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:10
- They don't want to live where it's cold -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:18
- Stanford is a shitty comp for ND. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 10:15
- One argument at a time please EDIT: to add -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:16
- Palo Alto, California, is famously not South Bend, Indiana -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:07
- We have had success with 5-stars in the past decade -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 10:53
- it's more a function of 5 stars being a very small group -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:15
- I agree with you -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 08:28
- Its not like he actively avoids them - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2018-04-24, 09:26
- Pete Sampson had a good article about another aspect -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 08:04
- one thing that article mentioned -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 08:48
- I don't agree with that... - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 09:06
- Our hit rate on top 50 kids doesn't seem very good... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 08:30
- That’s a decent hit rate -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- To that point (and to the QB discussion from BG Game) - Captain Robb, 2018-04-25, 13:38
- That’s a decent hit rate -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- one thing that article mentioned -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 08:48
- as an example - Jay, 2018-04-24, 07:58
- I don't get it -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 09:47
- Honest question re Stanford? -
JD in Portland,
2018-04-24, 10:58
- Hard to know if offers are legit these days... -
BPH,
2018-04-23, 18:14
- Those offers are all legit and they all want him -
scriptcomesfirst,
2018-04-23, 18:22
- Supposedly, Urban himself was going after this kid really - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 07:07
- Also similar to his buddy Phil -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-23, 19:16
- Good point - scriptcomesfirst, 2018-04-24, 06:00
- Those offers are all legit and they all want him -
scriptcomesfirst,
2018-04-23, 18:22
- He's not a plug-and-play prospect -
Buffalo,
2018-04-24, 07:06