If your program is healty, there is virtually no such thing
as a plug and play OL. They should essentially ALWAYS redshirt, unless they are the next Orlando Pace. And that isn't a reflection on the prospects at all. Heck, even Q redshirted.
Complete thread:
- Andrew Kristofic, OT from PA, just committed -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-23, 16:56
- He's not a plug-and-play prospect -
Buffalo,
2018-04-24, 07:06
- Honest question re Stanford? -
JD in Portland,
2018-04-24, 10:58
- That's happened a handful of times -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:42
- In fairness... -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 12:08
- I've found myself wondering, though... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 13:05
- The world seemed so bright and wonderful that night - Brendan, 2018-04-25, 07:02
- I've found myself wondering, though... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 13:05
- In fairness... -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 12:08
- last time they beat us in class ranking head to head was '12 - Jay, 2018-04-24, 11:05
- I think Stanford hurts ND - HumanRobot, 2018-04-24, 11:04
- That's happened a handful of times -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:42
- Some numbers from the current and just finished cycles -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:25
- Rivals top 50 for 2019 -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 12:19
- Only 6 West of the Rockies -
PasadenaDomer,
2018-04-24, 14:48
- 10 of the top 50 in 2018. - KGB, 2018-04-25, 12:29
- Absolutely - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:22
- Only 6 West of the Rockies -
PasadenaDomer,
2018-04-24, 14:48
- Was Jaylon the last five star? And Kiel before? -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:03
- ND's Composite five-stars under Kelly -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- I don’t get the “DC hates recruiting” archetype -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 14:38
- I've wondered about that too -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 06:54
- I think it's hurt us enormously -
Jack,
2018-04-25, 08:06
- Ah yes -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 08:09
- And it’s not just that they didn’t get 5* guys -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-25, 08:48
- Exactly. It's indefensible. Diaco's "profiles" were just a - BillyGoat, 2018-04-25, 09:15
- And it’s not just that they didn’t get 5* guys -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-25, 08:48
- Ah yes -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 08:09
- I think it's hurt us enormously -
Jack,
2018-04-25, 08:06
- I've wondered about that too -
Brendan,
2018-04-25, 06:54
- I don’t get the “DC hates recruiting” archetype -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 14:38
- Tommy Kraemer was a 5 star -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 11:05
- Quenton Nelson, too -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:53
- Penn State has some pull there - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:05
- It's in our historical footprint. Lots more non-football - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 11:57
- Quenton Nelson, too -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:53
- ND's Composite five-stars under Kelly -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- Thanks for this - Mike (bart), 2018-04-24, 10:51
- Thanks Brendan - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 10:40
- Rivals top 50 for 2019 -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 12:19
- Nothing from the Holtz era is meaningful anymore IMO. -
PAK,
2018-04-24, 09:42
- First and foremost .... -
Mark,
2018-04-24, 11:18
- and, of course, Vinny. - Grantland, 2018-04-24, 11:22
- I'd add that the ranking methodology back then - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 10:28
- Damn it PAK, Jay and I are meaningful. - Grantland, 2018-04-24, 10:07
- First and foremost .... -
Mark,
2018-04-24, 11:18
- Because we are a program -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 08:59
- And it's against school rules to have sex. -
Grantland,
2018-04-24, 10:08
- This is a really important point we probably gloss over. - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 10:10
- And it's against school rules to have sex. -
Grantland,
2018-04-24, 10:08
- I mean how many plug and play prospects has ND ever had..... -
Domer99,
2018-04-24, 07:59
- About one every seven or eight years on the OL - Jack, 2018-04-24, 10:19
- O-line is a bad example for this. -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 09:06
- If your program is healty, there is virtually no such thing - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 09:13
- I don't think we go after that many -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 07:36
- I don't get it -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 09:47
- it's more a function of 5 stars being a very small group -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:15
- "institutional fits" is doing a lot of work there -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- The argument is -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:39
- I want to congratulate you -
Greg,
2018-04-24, 11:45
- And the 40-year decision pays off once more. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 11:48
- I want to congratulate you -
Greg,
2018-04-24, 11:45
- who said "worse people?" I certainly didn't -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:37
- So is the thought that -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:49
- I certainly didn't mean it that way - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2018-04-24, 11:34
- I agree with Jeremy too -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:53
- Their risk-reward calculation is much different - Brendan, 2018-04-24, 12:18
- So is the thought that -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:49
- The argument is -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:39
- "institutional fits" is doing a lot of work there -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- Because with limited exceptions -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 09:52
- We have had success with 5-stars in the past decade -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 10:53
- Again, if he hints that he's shying away -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:27
- And if our offensive line coach didn't leave - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-04-24, 11:28
- Again, if he hints that he's shying away -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 11:27
- I don't see why they're mutually exclusive -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:00
- Palo Alto, California, is famously not South Bend, Indiana -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:07
- One argument at a time please EDIT: to add -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:16
- They don't want to live where it's cold -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:18
- People can hack on Kelly for any number of things -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:10
- And what's been our payoff when the staff has killed -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 11:56
- Yep. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 12:06
- And what's been our payoff when the staff has killed -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 11:56
- Exactly re Harrison -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2018-04-24, 10:32
- FWIW, Parsons was a horrific fit for ND anyway -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:33
- Heh, and right on cue... - Brendan, 2018-04-26, 10:02
- FWIW, Parsons was a horrific fit for ND anyway -
Brendan,
2018-04-24, 10:33
- People can hack on Kelly for any number of things -
KGB,
2018-04-24, 11:10
- They don't want to live where it's cold -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:18
- Stanford is a shitty comp for ND. - KGB, 2018-04-24, 10:15
- One argument at a time please EDIT: to add -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 10:16
- Palo Alto, California, is famously not South Bend, Indiana -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 10:07
- We have had success with 5-stars in the past decade -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 10:53
- it's more a function of 5 stars being a very small group -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 10:15
- I agree with you -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2018-04-24, 08:28
- Its not like he actively avoids them - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2018-04-24, 09:26
- Pete Sampson had a good article about another aspect -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-24, 08:04
- one thing that article mentioned -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 08:48
- I don't agree with that... - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 09:06
- Our hit rate on top 50 kids doesn't seem very good... -
BillyGoat,
2018-04-24, 08:30
- That’s a decent hit rate -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- To that point (and to the QB discussion from BG Game) - Captain Robb, 2018-04-25, 13:38
- That’s a decent hit rate -
HumanRobot,
2018-04-24, 11:59
- one thing that article mentioned -
Jay,
2018-04-24, 08:48
- as an example - Jay, 2018-04-24, 07:58
- I don't get it -
Mike (bart),
2018-04-24, 09:47
- Honest question re Stanford? -
JD in Portland,
2018-04-24, 10:58
- Hard to know if offers are legit these days... -
BPH,
2018-04-23, 18:14
- Those offers are all legit and they all want him -
scriptcomesfirst,
2018-04-23, 18:22
- Supposedly, Urban himself was going after this kid really - BillyGoat, 2018-04-24, 07:07
- Also similar to his buddy Phil -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-04-23, 19:16
- Good point - scriptcomesfirst, 2018-04-24, 06:00
- Those offers are all legit and they all want him -
scriptcomesfirst,
2018-04-23, 18:22
- He's not a plug-and-play prospect -
Buffalo,
2018-04-24, 07:06