That dynamic started earlier, I think
Nixon was a pioneer in weaponizing that fear (as documented extensively by Perlstein in "Nixonland"). Then you had the general crime problems of the 1970s which hardened the consciousness of a lot of people who are currently leading our country (Trump's whole mindset is defined by bankrupt, crime ridden 1970s "Death Wish" New York; Clinton and the "super predator" stuff).
The NRA pivot just capitalized on a lot that was already out there, and has continued with "Chicago" and internet fantasies of defending yourself against FEMA camps.
Complete thread:
- another one -
Jay,
2018-02-14, 15:48
- We definitely live in the Derpiest Timeline -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 12:13
- Wise words - NDTex, 2018-02-15, 12:55
- Ouch. - PMan, 2018-02-15, 12:22
- My son's school cancelled just classes on Monday -
irishvol,
2018-02-15, 11:45
- our girls' gradeschool has been doing active shooter drills - Jay, 2018-02-16, 09:28
- My day job deals with security cameras - NDTex, 2018-02-15, 12:03
- we discussed the topic at a board meeting - Pat, 2018-02-15, 11:57
- A terrifying detail in all of this -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 11:53
- Tragic - JRT, 2018-02-15, 14:00
- It gets even better -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 10:03
- FYI, there are questions about the legitimacy of this -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 13:18
- Some excellent points -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-16, 05:30
- The Daily Stormer editor was hyperventilating yesterday -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-16, 06:37
- It’s kind of like ISIS - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-16, 07:20
- The Daily Stormer editor was hyperventilating yesterday -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-16, 06:37
- Please explain -
Buffalo,
2018-02-15, 13:44
- It’s a bastardized Matrix reference - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 15:13
- Some excellent points -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-16, 05:30
- He really bothers the shit out of me -
Domer99,
2018-02-15, 11:06
- Everytime I hear the Wall I think -
Mark,
2018-02-15, 12:21
- I calm myself on this with the knowledge that - Jack, 2018-02-15, 12:37
- Everytime I hear the Wall I think -
Mark,
2018-02-15, 12:21
- Here's some recent history worth remembering - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 10:46
- You mean to tell me that within 24 hours... -
NDTex,
2018-02-15, 10:18
- I mean, it's even easier than that -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 10:21
- Previous instances of DV -
NDTex,
2018-02-15, 10:24
- Because we don't take domestic violence seriously - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-15, 10:53
- Previous instances of DV -
NDTex,
2018-02-15, 10:24
- I mean, it's even easier than that -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 10:21
- Now 34 people murdered by alt-right since January 2017 -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 10:07
- Does that 2014 number include the Charleston killings? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 10:11
- It does - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 10:16
- Does that 2014 number include the Charleston killings? -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 10:11
- FYI, there are questions about the legitimacy of this -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 13:18
- Just saw this bumper sticker out in the wild -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 09:58
- Look at this: -
Grantland,
2018-02-16, 06:26
- This company ^ is making lots and lots of $$$$. - Grantland, 2018-02-16, 06:34
- I just love gun tough guys, don't you? - Jack, 2018-02-15, 10:43
- Look at this: -
Grantland,
2018-02-16, 06:26
- I wonder what the future holds for this issue -
Mike (bart),
2018-02-15, 09:16
- Is the number of voters with school-aged kids increasing? -
CK08,
2018-02-15, 09:35
- I mean, it's probably been at a low ebb - Mike (bart), 2018-02-15, 09:57
- Is the number of voters with school-aged kids increasing? -
CK08,
2018-02-15, 09:35
- Trump blames mental illness -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 08:44
- That stance is particularly galling -
Joe I,
2018-02-15, 09:53
- and the CDC is prohibited from studying gun violence -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 10:25
- Jay Dickey - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2018-02-16, 04:57
- Gah, I forgot about that. - KGB, 2018-02-15, 10:13
- and the CDC is prohibited from studying gun violence -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 10:25
- There is just no floor on the horrible things that man can -
BillyGoat,
2018-02-15, 09:48
- The largest expansion of mental health services - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-15, 09:51
- I'm surprised he would go after his supporters like that - Jeff (BGS), 2018-02-15, 09:26
- For his own performance, or something else? - KGB, 2018-02-15, 09:23
- It's not the first time he's blamed mental illness -
Domer99,
2018-02-15, 09:04
- Mental illness is always important - NDTex, 2018-02-15, 09:14
- I’m beginning to suspect the President is bad at his job - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-15, 08:49
- That stance is particularly galling -
Joe I,
2018-02-15, 09:53
- Pierce - Grantland, 2018-02-15, 08:39
- Below I will make an argument with huge assumptions and -
Grantland,
2018-02-15, 07:42
- I'm not sure about that -
JRT,
2018-02-15, 14:11
- Yeah, I was thinking about this as I watched the coverage -
Grantland,
2018-02-16, 06:43
- Certainly - Joe I, 2018-02-16, 07:54
- NPR had a few words from a dad of a kid who escaped -
ndphilo,
2018-02-16, 07:46
- I don't think that's an easy question -
JRT,
2018-02-16, 08:59
- There are north of 100,000 public schools alone - ndphilo, 2018-02-16, 09:22
- I don't think that's an easy question -
JRT,
2018-02-16, 08:59
- Yeah, I was thinking about this as I watched the coverage -
Grantland,
2018-02-16, 06:43
- The NRA of today... -
PMan,
2018-02-15, 07:54
- NRA is the worst enemy for gun owners -
NDTex,
2018-02-15, 08:10
- Right, the NRA isn't a gun ownership group -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:16
- It's almost morphing into something beyond that. -
Pete,
2018-02-15, 08:30
- It's a political fringe group. -
KGB,
2018-02-15, 09:27
- with a huge membership -
JRT,
2018-02-15, 10:13
- What message? -
KGB,
2018-02-15, 10:21
- Implictly? Lately, they explicitly encourage it. - MattG, 2018-02-15, 13:32
- I'm not advocating for them - JRT, 2018-02-15, 11:32
- One could probably sum up their message in, oh say, 13 words - Chris (HCC), 2018-02-15, 10:33
- What message? -
KGB,
2018-02-15, 10:21
- I'd change fringe -
oviedoirish,
2018-02-15, 09:32
- tomato, tomahto - KGB, 2018-02-15, 09:35
- with a huge membership -
JRT,
2018-02-15, 10:13
- The NRA's incendiary rhetoric - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2018-02-15, 08:36
- That's why I kindly called it a "culture" war - NDTex, 2018-02-15, 08:34
- It's a political fringe group. -
KGB,
2018-02-15, 09:27
- It's almost morphing into something beyond that. -
Pete,
2018-02-15, 08:30
- Right, the NRA isn't a gun ownership group -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:16
- Rodney King & the LA riots were a turning point -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 08:06
- That dynamic started earlier, I think -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 08:13
- Speaking of -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:15
- Might be the least needed movie in history - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 08:16
- Speaking of -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:15
- Also true. -
PMan,
2018-02-15, 08:11
- The NRA is also starting to target women -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:14
- They have been doing that... - PMan, 2018-02-15, 08:19
- The NRA is also starting to target women -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 08:14
- That dynamic started earlier, I think -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 08:13
- NRA is the worst enemy for gun owners -
NDTex,
2018-02-15, 08:10
- Some stats from a Harvard survey on gun ownership - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-15, 07:52
- I'm not sure about that -
JRT,
2018-02-15, 14:11
- I was in high school when Columbine happened -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 05:09
- Cullen's "Columbine" book among the best I have ever read. - PMan, 2018-02-15, 07:12
- I'll second that book. -
Pete,
2018-02-15, 05:59
- We need new ideas because of the internet and social media -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 06:14
- where are you seeing that -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 06:44
- Apparently he was a white nationalist - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 10:02
- People were posting screenshots on Twitter -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 07:02
- That SPLC piece makes such an interesting, valid point -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 07:22
- I've said it so many times in recent years - Chris (HCC), 2018-02-15, 08:13
- The gamers are also the people that Bannon targeted - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2018-02-15, 08:11
- There are generally two universal commonalities - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 07:44
- That SPLC piece makes such an interesting, valid point -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 07:22
- where are you seeing that -
Jay,
2018-02-15, 06:44
- We need new ideas because of the internet and social media -
HullieAndMikes,
2018-02-15, 06:14
- I try not to be judgemental - Larz, 2018-02-14, 19:54
- Maybe someday people will come to believe -
ndphilo,
2018-02-14, 18:55
- I find it utterly bizarre - KGB, 2018-02-15, 09:40
- It is our own version of the Hunger Games - Jeff (BGS), 2018-02-15, 07:24
- It is fucking outrageous that we allow this to continue -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-02-14, 19:50
- Yes it should be. - oviedoirish, 2018-02-14, 20:44
- As if on cue ... -
BPH,
2018-02-14, 16:38
- Fuck your prayers. -
KGB,
2018-02-14, 17:19
- Rubio took $3.3 mill from Child Murder Inc a/k/a the NRA -
JD in Portland,
2018-02-14, 19:30
- To what extent has Citizens United opened the door -
BillyGoat,
2018-02-15, 05:45
- FWIW, the NRA spent $55 million on the 2016 election -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 06:55
- 30 million of that went to Trump. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-02-15, 08:13
- Twitter's Russian bot farm went into overdrive today. -
MattG,
2018-02-15, 13:36
- Anyone looking for more info on this - Mike (Embrey), 2018-02-15, 16:46
- Twitter's Russian bot farm went into overdrive today. -
MattG,
2018-02-15, 13:36
- 30 million of that went to Trump. -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2018-02-15, 08:13
- I don't think much - HullieAndMikes, 2018-02-15, 06:23
- Good question, though their money isn’t very “dark” - JD in Portland, 2018-02-15, 06:19
- FWIW, the NRA spent $55 million on the 2016 election -
Jim (fisherj08),
2018-02-15, 06:55
- To what extent has Citizens United opened the door -
BillyGoat,
2018-02-15, 05:45
- Rubio took $3.3 mill from Child Murder Inc a/k/a the NRA -
JD in Portland,
2018-02-14, 19:30
- That classic Marco Rubio backbone! - Jim (fisherj08), 2018-02-14, 16:47
- Fuck your prayers. -
KGB,
2018-02-14, 17:19
- assuming this is true. certainly rings true -
Jay,
2018-02-14, 16:05
- Amazingly, it's true. - oviedoirish, 2018-02-14, 20:41
- I just saw that as well. Sickening. - River, 2018-02-14, 16:33
- There’s a sickness in our country. -
San Pedro,
2018-02-14, 16:20
- A recent episode of TAL really drove home... - BPH, 2018-02-14, 16:36
- We definitely live in the Derpiest Timeline -
Chris (HCC),
2018-02-15, 12:13